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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 09:56:37 PM »
It is a wonderful book.

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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2014, 11:05:59 AM »
I am now on Chapter 4 of Open Letter to Confused Catholics. This is truly eye opening. I am understanding why you believe the way you do. I am also feeling very convicted...which is a good thing. How often have I reduced God to my level? Made Him my equal? So many times. I never understood the deep reverence for the Lord that was in place before Vatican II within the Mass.

When I was going through RCIA, Archbishop Naumann held a mass for us. He spoke of absolute truths. He said that there are absolute truths and society tries very hard to make everything a shade of gray...but isn't that what Vatican II did? Take absolute truths and either water them down or completely erase them. I do not understand how infallible doctrine can be changed...wouldn't that be saying it wasn't correct? Thus making it fallible?

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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2014, 11:57:39 AM »
These are good questions.  :)

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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2014, 12:10:57 PM »
In addition to +Lefebvre's excellent book which has been recommended above, I strongly encourage you to consider the following:


The Second Vatican Council: An Unwritten Story – Dr. Roberto de Mattei
Work of Human Hands: A Theological Critique of the Mass of Paul VI - Fr. Anthony Cekada
Iota Unum: A Study of Changes in the Catholic Church in the Twentieth Century - Romano Amerio


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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2014, 12:29:55 PM »
In addition to +Lefebvre's excellent book which has been recommended above, I strongly encourage you to consider the following:


The Second Vatican Council: An Unwritten Story – Dr. Roberto de Mattei
Work of Human Hands: A Theological Critique of the Mass of Paul VI - Fr. Anthony Cekada
Iota Unum: A Study of Changes in the Catholic Church in the Twentieth Century - Romano Amerio

I have long thought that you are an extremely smart person, Parresia, but I must increase my estimate of your intelligence even more if you consider the above to be works suitable for a "dummy".  Personally, I would classify them as challenging and advanced, although I agree that they are informative and thorough. 

I suggest that a beginner start with the video overviews of Work of Human Hands and then move onto the book.  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDA085477E90AC096
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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2014, 12:37:06 PM »
Vanna, you had mentioned in other posts that you have access to attending the TLM.  Have you been able to attend yet?  There is more to traditional Catholicism than intellectual understanding.  If you experience the TLM and traditional devotions, you will be better able to grasp how seriously wrong it is to deprive people of these things.  I do not want to discourage you from reading, but do not limit yourself to it.
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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2014, 01:06:46 PM »
Our priest is on leave (conference and vacation) until October. There will be no Latin Mass while he is gone. I will definitely attend when it resumes.
 

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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2014, 01:32:34 PM »
A good book for learning about the Mass is Know Your Mass which was written for children, but I found it very helpful too.  I found a pdf for it or you can buy a real book:http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/pdfs/14/06/26/12-34-30_0.pdf
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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 01:35:36 PM »
I really am glad that Vanna Grace has discovered Tradition.  I believe her faith will be all the stronger now.  As an aside, I have shared with her my "10 Tips for New Trads", which is available upon request.
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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2014, 01:42:43 PM »
A good book for learning about the Mass is Know Your Mass which was written for children, but I found it very helpful too.  I found a pdf for it or you can buy a real book:http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/pdfs/14/06/26/12-34-30_0.pdf

That is SO excellent!
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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2014, 01:59:27 PM »
A good book for learning about the Mass is Know Your Mass which was written for children, but I found it very helpful too.  I found a pdf for it or you can buy a real book:http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/pdfs/14/06/26/12-34-30_0.pdf

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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2014, 02:01:26 PM »
I am pretty pleased with myself for finding it too.  ;D  This has got to be one of the best introductory books to the Mass there is and I am very happy to find it online.
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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2014, 02:21:08 PM »
I have The Mass for Children but am not sure if it's traditional. It was published in 1990, so doubtful?

I will check out Know Your Mass.

**side note - have been discussing this with my husband and he's getting fired up (in a positive way) about all of this. I'm so excited for the first time in a long time. Thank you everyone.
 

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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2014, 02:23:58 PM »
That is wonderful that your husband is getting excited about this with you.  It can be hard on a marriage when only one spouse becomes interested in tradition.  It will be great if the two of you can make this journey together.
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Re: Traditional Catholism for Dummies?
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2014, 02:26:32 PM »
I have The Mass for Children but am not sure if it's traditional. It was published in 1990, so doubtful?

I will check out Know Your Mass.

**side note - have been discussing this with my husband and he's getting fired up (in a positive way) about all of this. I'm so excited for the first time in a long time. Thank you everyone.

It should be apparent rather quickly if it describes the new Mass or the TLM. I'm betting it describes the new one.

The link that Jayne posted is a pdf. You can buy it as a hard copy from Angelus Press in addition to the place that hosts the pdf. I think their printed version is abridged.
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