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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1095 on: April 10, 2014, 08:09:53 PM »
If "the wages of sin is death," then why would a sinless woman suffer death or decay?

That passage (Romans 6) is primarily speaking of the eternal death.

She did not suffer decay, as according to Tradition she was assumed following her temporal death before the necessary time elapsed to make her ritually unclean under Jewish law.

Well, both beliefs are permissible to hold (that Our Lady suffered bodily death, or that she did not) until something dogmatic is declared about this.  By "decay," however, I was referring to the decay of aging while she lived, and not the bodily decay of a corpse, since I don't believe that she died.

Do you think Our Lady aged past the most perfect bloom of her adulthood?  Do you think her body was subject to the vicissitudes of growing old?  I do not.  I believe that, being free of sin, she was given the gift of immortality that God had originally given to the sinless Adam & Eve, but which they spurned.  Remember, the fruit of the Tree of Life was not forbidden in Eden—it was put there for them to eat thereof, and to "live for ever"; it's just that the first pair opted to take from the Tree of Knowledge instead.

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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1096 on: April 11, 2014, 08:53:32 AM »
Well, both beliefs are permissible to hold (that Our Lady suffered bodily death, or that she did not) until something dogmatic is declared about this.  By "decay," however, I was referring to the decay of aging while she lived, and not the bodily decay of a corpse, since I don't believe that she died.

In the movie, Our Lady is shown to be in her late 40's, and at that age, healthy people have not experienced the 'decay of aging'.
 

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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1097 on: April 11, 2014, 10:43:13 AM »
Well, both beliefs are permissible to hold (that Our Lady suffered bodily death, or that she did not) until something dogmatic is declared about this.  By "decay," however, I was referring to the decay of aging while she lived, and not the bodily decay of a corpse, since I don't believe that she died.

In the movie, Our Lady is shown to be in her late 40's, and at that age, healthy people have not experienced the 'decay of aging'.

You say that now...  don't lie to yourself!  :lol:
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1098 on: April 11, 2014, 10:56:46 AM »
Well, both beliefs are permissible to hold (that Our Lady suffered bodily death, or that she did not) until something dogmatic is declared about this.  By "decay," however, I was referring to the decay of aging while she lived, and not the bodily decay of a corpse, since I don't believe that she died.

In the movie, Our Lady is shown to be in her late 40's, and at that age, healthy people have not experienced the 'decay of aging'.

But of course they have.  I'm in my 40s; I should know.  A person at 42 does not look the same as they did at 22.  The aging process is a curve, not a plateau.
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1099 on: April 11, 2014, 12:03:20 PM »
Well, both beliefs are permissible to hold (that Our Lady suffered bodily death, or that she did not) until something dogmatic is declared about this.  By "decay," however, I was referring to the decay of aging while she lived, and not the bodily decay of a corpse, since I don't believe that she died.

In the movie, Our Lady is shown to be in her late 40's, and at that age, healthy people have not experienced the 'decay of aging'.

But of course they have.  I'm in my 40s; I should know.  A person at 42 does not look the same as they did at 22.  The aging process is a curve, not a plateau.

Do you think it's all about looks?
 

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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1100 on: April 11, 2014, 01:07:30 PM »
Do you think it's all about looks?

No.  Wisdom, for example, is frequently accrued with age, and that is certainly a positive benefit of the process.  But this discussion is about whether the Blessed Virgin Mary was physically preserved in the perfect bloom of her adult beauty; she who, speaking of wisdom, is the Seat of Wisdom herself: "for she is more beautiful than the sun, and above all the order of the stars: being compared with the light, she is found before it."

I believe that she was physically preserved in her perfect bloom, because I believe that being free of sin, she did not suffer the physical decay of the body which is the curse of death wrought from Original Sin: "for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return."  Aging is, physically speaking, a curve: you're born, you grow up, you reach the peak of your bloom (the state Adam & Eve would've kept eternally had they not sinned), and then it's all downhill from there.  We're all slowly crumbling back into dust.  It's just a hard fact of life.  Everybody knew what David Bowie meant when he sang, "we live for just these 20 years / do we have to die for the 50 more?"
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1101 on: April 12, 2014, 07:16:23 PM »
Stage Door

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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1102 on: April 12, 2014, 10:47:53 PM »
Cecil B. Demille's 1927 King of Kings. One of the best movies about Our Lord ever made.
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1103 on: April 13, 2014, 08:22:14 PM »
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1104 on: April 13, 2014, 09:27:10 PM »
The first half of Jesus of Nazareth.
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1105 on: April 15, 2014, 04:42:58 AM »
Tried to watch the new G.I. Joe: Retaliation on Netflix.

It was sufficient, but most definitely inefficacious.

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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1106 on: April 16, 2014, 06:23:36 PM »
Thor The Dark World; very well made, I enjoyed it.
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1107 on: April 16, 2014, 06:52:03 PM »


i saw that one, didn't think much of it though.


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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1108 on: April 18, 2014, 07:17:52 AM »
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Re: Last movie you saw?
« Reply #1109 on: April 18, 2014, 12:33:29 PM »
The Usual Suspects

Awesome movie.

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