More Jewish Terror in the US

Started by james03, May 02, 2024, 11:46:59 AM

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james03

It's out in the open.  They don't try to hide it:

QuoteThe House of Representatives passed the "Antisemitism Awareness Act" (H.R. 6090) on Wednesday, which has sparked significant debate over the interpretation of religious texts and the definition of hate speech. ...

The bill defines antisemitism broadly, incorporating definitions provided by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), including traditional antisemitic actions and accusations such as those against the state of Israel. ...

3. Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.

4. Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).

5. Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.

6. Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations. ...

9. Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

Reading St. Paul is now a hate crime:

Quote from:  1Thess 214 For you, brethren, are become followers of the churches of God which are in Judea, in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered the same things from your own countrymen, even as they have from the Jews,  15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men;

 16 Prohibiting us to speak to the Gentiles, that they may be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end.

This will easily pass the Senate with major support from Demoncrats and Republicucks.  Fortunately there is no way this gets by the Supreme Court.

But once they get the Supreme Court, this will eventually become law and the jewish Terror State will emerge on steroids.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

josh987654321

#1
Rep. Matt Gaetz had a good post regarding this bill - https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1785762509187678637

I just wish he quoted the full part of Acts 3 in relation to the Jews (Although probably not enough room for that on Twitter) -

Quote from: Acts 3:14-2614 But you denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you. 15 But the author of life you killed, whom God hath raised from the dead, of which we are witnesses. 16 And in the faith of his name, this man, whom you have seen and known, hath his name strengthened; and the faith which is by him, hath given this perfect soundness in the sight of you all.

17 And now, brethren, I know that you did it through ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God before had shewed by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. 19 Be penitent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out.

20 That when the times of refreshment shall come from the presence of the Lord, and he shall send him who hath been preached unto you, Jesus Christ, 21 Whom heaven indeed must receive, until the times of the restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of his holy prophets, from the beginning of the world. 22 For Moses said: A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me: him you shall hear according to all things whatsoever he shall speak to you. 23 And it shall be, that every soul which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. 24 And all the prophets, from Samuel and afterwards, who have spoken, have told of these days.

25 You are the children of the prophets, and of the testament which God made to our fathers, saying to Abraham: And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 To you first God, raising up his Son, hath sent him to bless you; that every one may convert himself from his wickedness.

Our Lord Jesus Christ was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, the Jews, He preached to the Jews, He chose all His disciples from among the Jews, He said that the Scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses' seat, do as they say but not as they do for they are hypocrites (Matthew 23:2-3).

Of course, the Jewish Scribes and Pharisees in their ignorance, crucified the Messiah, who then established the New Covenant, thus opening the Kingdom of God to the Gentiles.

Now the chosen people are all those who believe in the one and only name by which we can be saved Our Lord Jesus Christ, Jews and Gentiles alike.

Quote from: Luke 13:3434 Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent to thee, how often would I have gathered thy children as the bird doth her brood under her wings, and thou wouldest not?


This was Our Lord's attitude toward the Jews and it should be ours also, if only they would recognise the Messiah, as myself, being a Gentile can see and yet they refuse to see, those who had Abraham as their father.

Quote from: Matthew 3:88 Bring forth therefore fruit worthy of penance. 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham for our father. For I tell you that God is able of these stones to raise up children to Abraham.

Those who had the Prophets and Covenant promises, where has the Ark of this Covenant gone?

Quote from: Revelation 11:19, 12:119 And the temple of God was opened in heaven: and the ark of his testament was seen in his temple, and there were lightnings, and voices, and an earthquake, 12 and great hail. And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:

Anti-Semitism would be calling for the death of the Jews or such things like that, calling for violence against them and things of that nature, but not for criticism, that's just absurd, furthermore, they harm themselves by pushing such things which would not fly for any other religion or group, when one says you cannot criticise them, it just reaffirms that they cannot defend their actions or beliefs.

We should pray for them, also fight for the correct understanding of Anti-Semitism which is not a criticism free card anymore than the Diocletian Persecution of Christians in Rome could justify laws against criticizing Christians or Christian States.

Quote from: Luke 23:33-3433 And when they were come to the place which is called Calvary, they crucified him there; and the robbers, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34 And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.


"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

God Bless
"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)

josh987654321

"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)

Hannelore

I don't see the problem with not blaming all Jews for the crucifixion of Christ.
My Lord and my God.

josh987654321

#4
Quote from: Bernadette on May 03, 2024, 07:46:44 AMI don't see the problem with not blaming all Jews for the crucifixion of Christ.

Matthew 27:25
25 And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children.

But then of course -

Luke 23:34
34 And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

The problem with stuff like 'Antisemitism' is how vague and subjective it can be, as it could mean anything. Physically assaulting or calling for the murder of any group of people already violates free speech, so why the need for this and such subjective wording.

Like Andrey Vyshinsky of the USSR said "show me the man and I'll show you the crime" (various versions of it exist throughout history, Pontius Pilate's 'what is truth' turns into 'what is justice' turns into 'anyone can be found guilty of anything') in other words, it's so subjective you can pick anyone you wish and charge them for it.

God Bless 

"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)

Heinrich

Quote from: Bernadette on May 03, 2024, 07:46:44 AMI don't see the problem with not blaming all Jews for the crucifixion of Christ.

Some jews are sinless?
Schaff Recht mir Gott und führe meine Sache gegen ein unheiliges Volk . . .   .                          
Lex Orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.
"Die Welt sucht nach Ehre, Ansehen, Reichtum, Vergnügen; die Heiligen aber suchen Demütigung, Verachtung, Armut, Abtötung und Buße." --Ausschnitt von der Geschichte des Lebens St. Bennos.

james03

QuoteI don't see the problem with not blaming all Jews for the crucifixion of Christ.

The key word in the legislation is "using".  So if I say: "The jews voided the Old Covenant by sacrificing babies to Moloch, and then killed the Son of God sent to establish the New Covenant, therefore I'm not surprised that Israel is committing heinous war crimes", I've now broken this law.

Obviously we don't blame Andrew Weisseman for crucifying Jesus 2,000 years ago.  When St. Paul says that the jews killed Christ, he is referring to the religion, as represented by their highest officials and the high priest.  This religion was later wiped out by God and the jews replaced it with the synagog of satan as it was transformed into the whore of Babylon with the additions of the Babylonian talmud.

And followers of this false religion have the mark of Cain upon them, under the Wrath of God until the end.  Which we see over and over again, starting in 70 AD.  This present epoch will conclude with Jerusalem running with rivers of jewish blood up to a horses bridle.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

Miriam_M

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Quote from: Heinrich on May 03, 2024, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: Bernadette on May 03, 2024, 07:46:44 AMI don't see the problem with not blaming all Jews for the crucifixion of Christ.

Some jews are sinless?

Bernadette did not state that some Jews are sinless.
There are two situations or realities here, which the Church teaches.  One is that the Jewish hierarchy of the First Century was certainly responsible, as were those Jews who had the opportunity to make a choice for Our Lord instead of Barabbas. Undoubtedly, there were many Jews not in the upper levels of power who were also not invincibly ignorant and might have been culpable before God for rejecting His Son. How many -- or whether the entire Jewish population of the time -- are to be condemned is not our concern, because here's the other truth the Church teaches:

We are all responsible for the Crucifixion.  Our sins, collectively, resulted in His death, but God's power alone resulted in His resurrection.  He chose to redeem all of us, Jew and Gentile -- that is, to make that redemption operative for all who choose to renounce any other idol or false religion for Him alone.

The Jewish Diaspora resulted in a variety of outcomes, including children born to Jews, children born to ex-Jews, as it were, adopting a Catholic or other Christian religion of a different region than what was operative in the Mediterranean basin of the First Century.  We have no access to the Mind of God to know which Jews-by-ancestry after the birth of the Church converted and those who will convert in the future.  The idea that God has absolutely condemned every single Jew-by-birth who ever lived or will live is not something the Church teaches, even though it is also true that the Church condemns Judaism, as a religion, as antithetical to Christ's Church. The degree of personal blame of individuals is not something we have access to.

That said, I affirm the earlier Holy Week liturgical language regarding the perfidy of the Jews. That's a general statement.

Parenthetically, I have studied Judaism quite a bit, including its history.  Proselytizing believers of other religions is not part of any game plan, publicly or privately.  Contrast that with the [cough] Religion of "Peace." A significant portion of modern Islam embraces publicly the aim of forcibly converting Christians to Islam.  Jews are not a threat to Catholics -- and I am not talking about the Anti-Christ to come; Muslims, OTOH, are.

james03

First off the core of this dispute is the fact that the jewish religion is rejected by God.

Quote from: Rom 11What then? That which Israel sought, he hath not obtained: but the election hath obtained it; and the rest have been blinded.  8 As it is written: God hath given them the spirit of insensibility; eyes that they should not see; and ears that they should not hear, until this present day.  9 And David saith: Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompense unto them.  10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see: and bow down their back always.

The jews made void the Old Covenant with their child sacrifice to Moloch, as prophesied by Moses:

Quote from: Deut 28And all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue and overtake thee, till thou perish: because thou heardst not the voice of the Lord thy God, and didst not keep his commandments and ceremonies which he commanded thee.

 46 And they shall be as signs and wonders on thee, and on thy seed for ever.


Quote from: Deut 31They are returned to the former iniquities of their fathers, who refused to hear my words: so these likewise have gone after strange gods, to serve them: the house of Israel, and the house of Juda have made void my covenant, which I made with their fathers.

QuoteJews are not a threat to Catholics

Yeah, they are.  Which is why Popes expelled them from their land.  And it is clear in this present day that they control the Americans' government.  Look at the legislation that AIPAC and the ADL just got passed by an overwhelming vote.  Where is the legislation condemning putting a crucifix in urine?  Or claiming that Mary Immaculate was a prostitute and that the Lord is in hell in boiling excrement?
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

drummerboy

- I'll get with the times when the times are worth getting with

"I like grumpy old cusses.  Hope to live long enough to be one" - John Wayne

Miriam_M

Quote from: drummerboy on May 03, 2024, 12:12:36 PMhttps://www.amazon.com/Rulers-Russia-Dennis-Fahey-CSSP/dp/1490947884/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3KYLB39X4CODQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y3Q2nXBzeeyWCfLWFb7ikQ.ceZNvEw9eWXjJ0Nzjiydtan76hZgSBl124e52S6Stuw&dib_tag=se&keywords=fr.+fahey+the+rulers+of+russia&qid=1714759845&sprefix=rulers+of+russ%2Caps%2C356&sr=8-1

Jews most certainly are a threat to Catholics, a spiritual threat, and to an extent, an earthly threat, as this book clearly demonstrates.  But it before it becomes a "hate book." I'm surprised it's on Amazon honestly.

Again I disagree that any religion or sect would be a "threat" to a Catholic confirmed in his or her faith.  (I mean more than sacramentally Confirmed; I mean, convicted.)  For the weak-willed or poorly formed, everything is potentially a threat.  I see the biggest spiritual, psychological, and political threat to Catholics being secular atheism and all of its invasive, multi-leveled power that invariably leaves us in the minority and with few or no allies.

There are many Reform Jews and JINO's who are, for all practical purposes, part of the secular forces which threaten believers.  Many such men and women have positions in local, state, and federal government, and if that's what anyone means by a threat, such non-practicing Jews can be a threat, yes.  But the idea of a Conservative, Orthodox, or Chasidic Jew being a direct threat by simply attending synagogue on a weekly basis -- being a "threat" to the practice of Catholicism (not the voting habits of Catholics or the political activism of any Catholics) is a non-starter, i.m.o.

I'm speaking of the practice of one's religion being a so-called "threat" to the faith of the practitioners of a different religion -- and not any implied or assumed political activism on the part of the supposed threatening force. I haven't experienced Jews as wanting to Judaize --in religious terms-- the U.S. government, whereas Muslims most definitely have that as a fantasy if not yet an explicit plan.

Hannelore

Quote from: james03 on May 03, 2024, 09:50:55 AMThis present epoch will conclude with Jerusalem running with rivers of jewish blood up to a horses bridle.
Where does this come from?
My Lord and my God.

Heinrich

Quote from: Miriam_M on May 03, 2024, 10:07:27 AM
Quote from: Heinrich on May 03, 2024, 09:21:28 AM
Quote from: Bernadette on May 03, 2024, 07:46:44 AMI don't see the problem with not blaming all Jews for the crucifixion of Christ.

Some jews are sinless?

Bernadette did not state that some Jews are sinless.
There are two situations or realities here, which the Church teaches.  One is that the Jewish hierarchy of the First Century was certainly responsible, as were those Jews who had the opportunity to make a choice for Our Lord instead of Barabbas. Undoubtedly, there were many Jews not in the upper levels of power who were also not invincibly ignorant and might have been culpable before God for rejecting His Son. How many -- or whether the entire Jewish population of the time -- are to be condemned is not our concern, because here's the other truth the Church teaches:

We are all responsible for the Crucifixion.  Our sins, collectively, resulted in His death, but God's power alone resulted in His resurrection.  He chose to redeem all of us, Jew and Gentile -- that is, to make that redemption operative for all who choose to renounce any other idol or false religion for Him alone.

The Jewish Diaspora resulted in a variety of outcomes, including children born to Jews, children born to ex-Jews, as it were, adopting a Catholic or other Christian religion of a different region than what was operative in the Mediterranean basin of the First Century.  We have no access to the Mind of God to know which Jews-by-ancestry after the birth of the Church converted and those who will convert in the future.  The idea that God has absolutely condemned every single Jew-by-birth who ever lived or will live is not something the Church teaches, even though it is also true that the Church condemns Judaism, as a religion, as antithetical to Christ's Church. The degree of personal blame of individuals is not something we have access to.

That said, I affirm the earlier Holy Week liturgical language regarding the perfidy of the Jews. That's a general statement.

Parenthetically, I have studied Judaism quite a bit, including its history.  Proselytizing believers of other religions is not part of any game plan, publicly or privately.  Contrast that with the [cough] Religion of "Peace." A significant portion of modern Islam embraces publicly the aim of forcibly converting Christians to Islam.  Jews are not a threat to Catholics -- and I am not talking about the Anti-Christ to come; Muslims, OTOH, are.

Sin crucified Jesus. All men are sinners. All jews are men. Basic philosophy. Bernadette's statement resonates with a modernist understanding of the JQ. Any Talmudic adherent at any time in history is a legacy of deicide. Yes, perfidious.
Schaff Recht mir Gott und führe meine Sache gegen ein unheiliges Volk . . .   .                          
Lex Orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.
"Die Welt sucht nach Ehre, Ansehen, Reichtum, Vergnügen; die Heiligen aber suchen Demütigung, Verachtung, Armut, Abtötung und Buße." --Ausschnitt von der Geschichte des Lebens St. Bennos.

Hannelore

Quote from: HeinrichSin crucified Jesus. All men are sinners. All jews are men. Basic philosophy. Bernadette's statement resonates with a modernist understanding of the JQ. Any Talmudic adherent at any time in history is a legacy of deicide. Yes, perfidious.
So then the Jews are no more responsible for killing Christ than anyone else is.
My Lord and my God.

josh987654321

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In any case, we should certainly pray for the Jews, especially that they would one day recognise and see the incredible fulfilment of all the promises made to them in Our Lord Jesus Christ.

It's a very difficult situation in the Middle East right now with both sides, I could never support either side of that whole conflict, what HAMAS did was absolutely reprehensible and Israel have the right to defend themselves, but the lapse in security for such an advanced modern state of Israel is incredibly suspicious and I cannot rule out ulterior motives either, also that not everyone there is HAMAS and yet things like cutting the water supply and putting the whole place under siege is very immoral.

Israel's beginnings are questionable, but they are there now and have been for a long time, thus they should not be taken off the map so to speak as some in that region would like, but at the same time, we should be wary of efforts by Israel at expansionism too.

Given the wests support of Israel in terms of military and technology, more should be required of them IMO, there are other ways to defend oneself that prevents the killing of innocent civilians and like the whole WMD's in Iraq, they should be finding out how October 7 was allowed to happen first, not after the fact when those responsible have already got what they wanted.

God Bless
"I will not delude you with prospects of peace and consolations; on the contrary, prepare for great battles. Know that you are now on a great stage where all heaven and earth are watching you. Fight like a knight, so that I can reward you. Do not be unduly fearful, because you are not alone." (Diary, 1760)

"It is in My Passion that you must seek light and strength." (Diary, 654)

"I never reject a contrite heart." (Diary, 1485)