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Lay Third Orders
« on: June 28, 2013, 11:11:41 AM »
Anybody out there a member  Secular/Lay Third Order?  Something like the Carmelites or Franciscans. I'm thinking/discerning about becoming a Third Order Franciscan, not sure how traditional some of the groups might be.
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 12:12:16 PM »
I'll be watching this thread because I'd like to join a Lay Third Order too but I'm thinking most of them are moon-batty...
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 12:14:52 PM »
That is what I'm afraid of- especially with the Franciscans.  I love St Francis and St Clare, but they tend to attract some oddballs (maybe myself included.)
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 12:29:30 PM »
That is what I'm afraid of- especially with the Franciscans.  I love St Francis and St Clare, but they tend to attract some oddballs (maybe myself included.)

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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 05:09:03 PM »
Anybody out there a member  Secular/Lay Third Order?  Something like the Carmelites or Franciscans. I'm thinking/discerning about becoming a Third Order Franciscan, not sure how traditional some of the groups might be.
I used to be T.O. SSPX, but am kind of in limbo on that. My postulancy is over, but I've never been able to get to a Society priest to make a full profession (i live a long way from any of their chapels). I still received the only newsletter sent out in the roughly year and a half I've been on the rolls.

To the topic at hand, if you happen to live in NY, the Franciscans of the Immaculate have a Third Order. I believe there is also one associated with the Morgan Capuchins (SSPX affiliated).
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2013, 12:13:28 AM »
We are not a third order, but we are a lay order. 
Here is a link to our Preceptory website in the USA
http://www.militiatempli.net/
and here is a page with our Rule of Life, it is an adaptation of the ancient Rule of the Knights Templar
http://www.militiatempli.net/our-pastors/our-holy-rule-and-documents

The Dames of the order are different from Knights.  I would be happy to answer any questions you might have! 
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2013, 06:46:54 PM »
I'm a member of an unofficial lay Franciscan group.  Our rule is based on a traditional Third Order one rather the official (and modern) Secular Franciscans.  Technically I am still a Secular Franciscan but I was finding it too liberal so I was glad when we moved away from that area to have an excuse to stop attending.
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2013, 08:23:32 PM »
The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have a Third Order...

http://www.saintbenedict.com/theorder/third-order.html

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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2013, 12:08:55 PM »
The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary have a Third Order...

http://www.saintbenedict.com/theorder/third-order.html

Thank you, Peter. I live about 40 miles from them! This look perfect... :)
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2013, 01:31:59 PM »
We are not a third order, but we are a lay order. 
Here is a link to our Preceptory website in the USA
http://www.militiatempli.net/
and here is a page with our Rule of Life, it is an adaptation of the ancient Rule of the Knights Templar
http://www.militiatempli.net/our-pastors/our-holy-rule-and-documents

The Dames of the order are different from Knights.  I would be happy to answer any questions you might have!

I took a brief look at the website during my lunch break. It looks very interesting; I will look into it further this weekend.

One format complaint though: The background is fine as pitch black, but the menu titles on the leftmost side of the page need to be white or a much brighter colour in order to stand out.  I had to highlight the menu just to see what the listings were.
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2013, 02:17:03 PM »
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http://www.militiatempli.net/

That does look like an amazing religious order. Are there any organizations like this that aren't affiliated with the Indult?
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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2013, 01:34:15 PM »
We are not a third order, but we are a lay order. 
Here is a link to our Preceptory website in the USA
http://www.militiatempli.net/
and here is a page with our Rule of Life, it is an adaptation of the ancient Rule of the Knights Templar
http://www.militiatempli.net/our-pastors/our-holy-rule-and-documents

The Dames of the order are different from Knights.  I would be happy to answer any questions you might have!

I took a brief look at the website during my lunch break. It looks very interesting; I will look into it further this weekend.

One format complaint though: The background is fine as pitch black, but the menu titles on the leftmost side of the page need to be white or a much brighter colour in order to stand out.  I had to highlight the menu just to see what the listings were.

Thank you for the suggestion!
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not to think so much of what I have written, as of my good and kind intentions. Please look for the truths of which I speak rather than for beauty of expression. Where I do not come up to your expectations, pardon me, and put my shortcomings down, please, to lack of time and stress of business." St. Bonaventure, From the Preface of Holiness of Life.

Apostolate:
http://www.alleluiaaudiobooks.com/
Contributor:
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http://www.militiatempli.net/
 

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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2020, 01:43:18 PM »
Is there a new link for The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary
 

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Re: Lay Third Orders
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2020, 02:54:53 PM »
https://www.society-sacred-heart.org/

The Institute has said that technically it's not a "Third Order," but it actually functions just like one, i.m.o.  Daily requirements/expectations, including the Office, Mass or spiritual communion, other aspects of a Rule, yearly retreat, and connection with a men's apostolic order. 

Probably the yearly retreat was not held this year, for obvious reasons.
 

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2020, 02:59:29 PM »
Correction.  Apparently they did have a Retreat this year.  Don't have time to investigate whether it was online.  (Probably)  Conferences listed here:

https://www.society-sacred-heart.org/resources.html