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Offline lauermar

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Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« on: March 15, 2021, 12:55:02 PM »
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/vatican-excludes-gay-union-blessing-god-bless-sin-76462082

The Vatican made this statement today. Obviously this isn't a new idea. However, it would have been unnecessary to issue a new statement if folks had not been confused by Pope Francis' past public statement which appeared to favor gay unions. Most people were confused because they view societal rights and privileges for married couples (not individuals) as a formal recognition that the union is legitimate. Which it is not.

Notice that the liberal nun has voiced a loophole around it: we can bless gay individuals and their committed selves, just not the contract. Which means that to the general public it will look like a blessing on a gay union with a same-sex couple standing together in church wearing their wedding rings. Obviously chaste gay singles like Joseph Sciambra aren't signing up for an individual blessing.
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2021, 05:35:32 PM »

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The answer to the proposed dubium does not preclude the blessings given to individual persons with homosexual inclinations, who manifest the will to live in fidelity to the revealed plans of God as proposed by Church teaching. Rather, it declares illicit any form of blessing that tends to acknowledge their unions as such.

"Well of course Father I am in fidelity to the revealed plans of God. Now give me and my partner a blessing."
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2021, 05:57:02 PM »
Right now Lot's wife must be really pissed off.
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2021, 10:55:18 PM »
It’s a spectacular indictment of Francis’ regime that it’s a major news story whenever they do something vaguely Christian.
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2021, 11:30:36 PM »
$kojec publicly doubts, if not, outright denies the legitimacy of the Catholic Church. Probably shouldn’t be used as a source for Catholic commentary. Just sayin’....
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2021, 06:24:33 AM »
Quote from: King Wenceslas on March 15, 2021, 05:35:32 PM

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The answer to the proposed dubium does not preclude the blessings given to individual persons with homosexual inclinations, who manifest the will to live in fidelity to the revealed plans of God as proposed by Church teaching. Rather, it declares illicit any form of blessing that tends to acknowledge their unions as such.

"Well of course Father I am in fidelity to the revealed plans of God. Now give me and my partner a blessing."

Nothing against blessing a pair of individual gays who present for blessing, or so the Germans will say. Like I said in another thread, this is basically Memoriale Domini, where Paul VI banned but didn't ban Communion in the hands, for the homos.
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2021, 11:20:04 AM »
Quote from: MaximGun on March 17, 2021, 07:32:55 AM
Quote from: King Wenceslas on March 16, 2021, 10:01:18 PM
Steve Skojic's skeptical response:

https://onepeterfive.com/vatican-nixes-german-plan-for-same-sex-blessings-but-all-i-feel-is-deja-vu/

The picture in that article is great.

It sure is.  "The picture of Dorian Apple".  <redacted>

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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2021, 12:23:54 PM »
I could not see any photo except Skojek's thumbnail.
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2021, 04:34:43 AM »
Why would the church be able to bless practicing gays? By practicing I mean active in the homo lifestyle.

If they're not active, how would the blessing priest prove their chastity.

What is the reason for blessing a chaste person? Chastity is a duty of every non-married Catholic.
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2021, 11:24:26 AM »
Quote from: lauermar on March 28, 2021, 04:34:43 AM
Why would the church be able to bless practicing gays? By practicing I mean active in the homo lifestyle.

If they're not active, how would the blessing priest prove their chastity.

What is the reason for blessing a chaste person? Chastity is a duty of every non-married Catholic.

It seems to me that the very contradiction you raise is evidence of diabolical influence within the Church. Satan loves to invade the holy so as to pervert it.

How, indeed?

Our priest delivered a fiery sermon about this, weeks ago, repudiating such a possibility as nefarious and unholy.
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2021, 01:32:31 PM »
Quote from: ChristusRex on March 16, 2021, 11:30:36 PM
$kojec publicly doubts, if not, outright denies the legitimacy of the Catholic Church. Probably shouldn’t be used as a source for Catholic commentary. Just sayin’....

strong indictment. Got evidence?(I have no affection for Skojec).
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2021, 07:02:01 PM »
Quote from: ChristusRex on March 16, 2021, 11:30:36 PM
$kojec publicly doubts, if not, outright denies the legitimacy of the Catholic Church. Probably shouldn’t be used as a source for Catholic commentary. Just sayin’....

Can you support this charge?
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Re: Vatican announcement forbids blessing same sex unions
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2021, 07:03:14 PM »
Quote from: clau clau on March 17, 2021, 11:20:04 AM
Quote from: MaximGun on March 17, 2021, 07:32:55 AM
Quote from: King Wenceslas on March 16, 2021, 10:01:18 PM
Steve Skojic's skeptical response:

https://onepeterfive.com/vatican-nixes-german-plan-for-same-sex-blessings-but-all-i-feel-is-deja-vu/

The picture in that article is great.

It sure is.  "The picture of Dorian Apple".  <redacted>

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being blessed, and that is not being blessed".



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