Author Topic: Are wild conspiracy theories done on purpose?...to discredit those who are awake  (Read 1178 times)

Offline Kaesekopf

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I never claimed there are proofs to his claims.  What I said was he is either crazy, lying, or telling the truth.   Yet somehow for you the lack of proof makes him a liar.  That is not logical.  I have no reason to think he is lying based on his reputation as a General.   

The election is over.  The votes are certified.  Biden is President-Elect.  He takes office on Jan 20.

Good whole lot the "General's" statement on Dominion servers did. 
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There is still time. It's not too late until Jan 20th, as the military still answers to him until that day. So while it still can be done, I'm revoking my prediction and am saying that it is not going to happen, simply because he isn't the man I thought he was.

The same US military that is being purged of "white supremacists" and "domestic terorrists?"

No, they won't do a thing. 
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I never claimed there are proofs to his claims.  What I said was he is either crazy, lying, or telling the truth.   Yet somehow for you the lack of proof makes him a liar.  That is not logical.  I have no reason to think he is lying based on his reputation as a General.   

The election is over.  The votes are certified.  Biden is President-Elect.  He takes office on Jan 20.

Good whole lot the "General's" statement on Dominion servers did.

Not sure about that last statement there, grammatically speaking.  But thanks brother nonetheless for straightening me out. No more, what was it called, “Qanon faggotry” for me.

On a more positive note, thanks James03 for making good on our philosophical wager with case of Shiner Bock delivered last Sunday in the church parking lot.  See attached pic.  Yeah baby. Drinking me one now.
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The best the right can do now (which of course they won't do) is keep a low profile and let the left burn themselves chasing imagined demons of the right for the next several months. The left will then grow tired of that gig and move on to chasing demons outside the US. You know, create several more Libya's and Syria's. Then they can satisfy their blood lust on little brown people to finish out the last of the 4 years of the Biden/Harris term.

Maybe Biden will be as much of a disaster for the world as Wilson and Roosevelt were. A nice good rousing version of WWIII would do wonders to clean out the dead wood in this country. Too bad I can't pray for that.
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I have often pondered it. I know that the KGB used to create or stoke conspiracy theories to undermine the USA. Russia has done it recently (stoking the QAnon conspiracy theory). But there are just so many deluded people in this country that no foreign assistance is required to make people believe crazy things and to act on them. I chalk it up to both.
 

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I don't believe for a second that Pelosi laptop was stolen, if it was then someone would be leaking her vile crap all over the internet. 

They might be using it for other purposes, as already discussed, or still analyzing it.  It comes down to the credibility of General McInerney.   How much of what he (and Flynn) is putting out there is his own conspiracy theory vs. what he knows first hand?  How do you determine when a man of his reputation and background, as a retired high ranking general in the know, is just theorizing vs telling the truth?  Because he ISN'T claiming the taking of the laptop is a theory, but a fact, just as he did with the CIA operation in Frankfurt using Dominion to manipulate votes.  He claimed it as a fact.  So either a) he is lying, b) he is crazy, or c) he is telling the truth.
You are forgetting d) he's telling you something false that he genuinely believes in.

I don't understand why the right gives credence to retired generals outside of military expertise. I don't trust Flynn. Yes, he got screwed by the FBI but on the other hand, he got away (so far) with being a handsomely-paid unregistered foreign agent for Turkey during the Trump campaign and transition, up to the day before he became NSA. Real scummy.



Ok, I will bite.

Here is a wild conspiracy theory, tin foil hat and all: Who stood to gain the most for allowing the demonstrators into the Capitol Building?

You only get one teensy weensy guess.
The Capitol Police. They will never be underfunded or understaffed again.



Again, he claimed that bit about Dominion servers.

Yet nothing came of it.

Lies.

How do you know nothing came of it?   And how does a lack of public release of what was allegedly found in the Dominion servers (or Pelosi's laptop if it was stolen) prove that the General is lying?  Maybe the guy's just an old, weathered patriot trying to connect the dots from intelligence he has access to, now and in the past because, you know, he's not ready to stop fighting a Communist coup.   Or maybe his head is very clear, and is telling the truth because it was leaked to him.
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NWO?

One World Government? 

Aren't those crackpot conspiracy theories? 

;)

Part of disinformation is having a "consensus cracker" a person that agrees most of the way and then either disputes a point or two or adds some wild additions. 

The "breach" of the Capitol looked to me, like a useless exercise unless it was distracting or allowing something else from happening. 

I go by plausibility and look for reasonable connections in events.   Pelosi and Schumer's laptops being stolen along with other devices is supported by the comments of Gen Tom McIntyre who said multiple operations were going on.  Pelosi's utterly bizarre behavior about Impeachment and 25th amendment is consistent with someone suddenly having something at risk. 

UFO's?  Time Travel?  Space Wars going on between Mercury and Venus?  Unless I were to see something jaw-droppingly real, I leave that to my enjoyment of Fantasy and SciFi. 

Satanic Rituals?  Child trafficking? Possession?  Adrenochrome?  Blackmail? Corruption?  All possible.  So that goes on the "maybe" shelf. 

Anyone who claims to confidently know it all is not to be trusted in my book.  Anybody who dismisses everything with a wave of the hand and a sneer is an idiot in my book.

Justin Trudeau, Schwab, Gates, Soros etc. Made public videos stating it was the perfect time now for a great global reset. Their words not mine. Explain what that means if you think it isn't NWO.
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NWO?

One World Government? 

Aren't those crackpot conspiracy theories? 

;)

Part of disinformation is having a "consensus cracker" a person that agrees most of the way and then either disputes a point or two or adds some wild additions. 

The "breach" of the Capitol looked to me, like a useless exercise unless it was distracting or allowing something else from happening. 

I go by plausibility and look for reasonable connections in events.   Pelosi and Schumer's laptops being stolen along with other devices is supported by the comments of Gen Tom McIntyre who said multiple operations were going on.  Pelosi's utterly bizarre behavior about Impeachment and 25th amendment is consistent with someone suddenly having something at risk. 

UFO's?  Time Travel?  Space Wars going on between Mercury and Venus?  Unless I were to see something jaw-droppingly real, I leave that to my enjoyment of Fantasy and SciFi. 

Satanic Rituals?  Child trafficking? Possession?  Adrenochrome?  Blackmail? Corruption?  All possible.  So that goes on the "maybe" shelf. 

Anyone who claims to confidently know it all is not to be trusted in my book.  Anybody who dismisses everything with a wave of the hand and a sneer is an idiot in my book.

Justin Trudeau, Schwab, Gates, Soros etc. Made public videos stating it was the perfect time now for a great global reset. Their words not mine. Explain what that means if you think it isn't NWO.

Did you see the little "winky" emoji in my post?  NWO is beyond a conspiracy theory, that's a documented fact. 
 
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No, they won't do a thing.
They are busy strafing weddings in Yemen or something. 8)

Did you see the little "winky" emoji in my post?  NWO is beyond a conspiracy theory, that's a documented fact.
See The New World Order and The Open Conspiracy by HG Wells.
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Well just to play along with the conspiracy theories for a minute, I can't help thinking that thousands of national guard troops guarding the capital sounds like the perfect setup for Trump declaring the Insurrection act and sweeping up the coup perpetrators in one big stroke, perhaps inauguration morning when everyone will be there.  Theoretically it makes perfect sense, do it all in plain sight.  And James said in another post how there are no moving vans yet at the white house.
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Well just to play along with the conspiracy theories for a minute, I can't help thinking that thousands of national guard troops guarding the capital sounds like the perfect setup for Trump declaring the Insurrection act and sweeping up the coup perpetrators in one big stroke, perhaps inauguration morning when everyone will be there.  Theoretically it makes perfect sense, do it all in plain sight.  And James said in another post how there are no moving vans yet at the white house.

Care to place a wager on your scenario?
 

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no one will ever know the truth nor reveal it. Truths and half truths mixed with lies and complete absurdities. All to draw us into the cesspool of misinformation. This is what the father of lies does all the time. This is his specialty.

Thank you, Martin.  I have missed you.
I missed you guys too. It's been a while. If you follow the alt news media and websites, there is a lot of information coming out lately especially OANN's report on election fraud.
If the riot (most likely orchestrated) hadn't taken place the evidence would have been presented in the Senate but then again just a handful of republicans spoke out against it. Very sad indeed. If you look closely at the main characters that participated in the "attack" on the Capitol, there are Qanon followers, BLM dude who was caught and released (this guy can be seen on a video from on of their protests, calling for insurrection), Antifa, few opportunists and a number of people who were led by their emotions and euphoria.
Therefore it is safe to assume that USA is on its path to communism, full throttle. Unless a miracle happens we are in big trouble. Fatima seer made it clear that communism will spread all over the world.
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Do Trump supporters believe Trump here? Or are we looking for more violence and vandalism in the next week?
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Do Trump supporters believe Trump here? Or are we looking for more violence and vandalism in the next week?

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That was an address calling on people to not attack Democrats.

He wasn't calling on the Democrats' Brownshirts to not attack us.

Why else would he make this address NOW?!

It's a full week after the idiots stormed the Capitol building.

A congressman claimed that 4000 armed militiamen were going to prevent the impeachment.

WELL?

As far as I can tell, no protests anywhere. Not anything significant.

Look at THIS:



Setting up a false flag?

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Red and yellow, the colors of the Soviet and Chinese communist flags?

Obviously fake, but why January 17?

I thought the rootin' tootin' gun-totin' patriots were going to protest the state capitols on January 20.

The hardest thing I've had to do is refrain from insulting people for being unable to think and for having no strength of character.

Patton pretend to command the First US Army Group (FUSAG), which didn't exist.

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Why is it that so many Trump "supporters" think that Trump is not lying his butt off?

PATTON LIED.

The reason you can't comprehend lying is that you don't understand the stakes here.

If Trump pulls this off, it changes THE WORLD.

Here's what you think Trump's team is saying to him:

"Look, I'm all in on saving the world, but I won't lie on social media!"

Can't you see how insane that is?

Simple reality is that if Trump walks away, the Chinese communists win, and Big Tech controls speech.



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Russia has done it recently (stoking the QAnon conspiracy theory).

Shill. 
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