Why doesn't the catechism mention...

[pioflower]

The mark of the beast if it is an unforgiveable sin?

[abc123]

 

Right on schedule.

[Stubborn]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

[Miriam_M]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

No.  The unforgivable sin is refusal of God's Mercy.  That's the sin directly against the Holy Ghost. It is the sinner's last and ultimate opportunity to save himself.

[GiftOfGod]

I thought that blaspheming the Holy Ghost is an unforgivable sin?

[Michael Wilson]

From:  "My Catholic Faith A Catechism in Pictures"; Most Rev. Louis LaRavoire Morrow, S.T.D. Pg.   151:

Can all sins be forgiven?-Yes, all sins, however great, can be forgiven, through the infinite merits of Christ, Who is God.
The repentant sinner is told in Scripture: "If your sins be as scarlet, they shall be made white as snow" (Is. I.17).
1.God is always ready to forgive our sins, no matter how great or how many they are, if we are truly sorry for them. NO actual sin can be forgiven without sorrow and repentance on the part of the sinner.
Our Lord said: "I say to you that, even so, there will be joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, more than over ninety nine just who have no need of repentance.''(Luke 15:7).
2. The sin against the Holy ghost which Christ warned us would not be forgiven in heaven or on earth is persistent impenitence, the sin of one who rejects conversion and dies in mortal sin. One guilty of this sin can never obtain forgiveness of God, because at the hour of death he continues to thrust God away from him.
A man mortally wounded cannot have any hope of cure if he not only refuses to listen to his doctors, but shuts hi mouth against all medicines, and kicks away all medical instruments and help. Even Judas would have been pardoned if he had asked for forgiveness and made a sinceeree act of contrition before his death.

[Stubborn]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

No.  The unforgivable sin is refusal of God's Mercy.  That's the sin directly against the Holy Ghost. It is the sinner's last and ultimate opportunity to save himself.

No, the sin of refusing God's mercy is in fact forgivable, and remains forgivable as long as the sinner lives because as long as the sinner lives he has opportunity to make a choice, should the sinner decide to give in and accept God's mercy, he will be forgiven of having rejected it - this means that sin is forgivable.

Dying outside of the Church however leaves one without any hope of forgiveness, which makes this the only sin that is unforgivable.

[Miriam_M]

Stubborn,

Rejecting conversion is also rejecting God's mercy because that mercy is always available to us, no matter how deep and many our sins, and that's why it is a sin against the Third Person of the Trinity.  That's what "final impenitence" means.  That's not the same thing as "dying outside the Church," which is what you claimed.

[pioflower]

Doesn't the book of the apocalypse mention an unforgiveable sin?

[St.Justin]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

No.  The unforgivable sin is refusal of God's Mercy.  That's the sin directly against the Holy Ghost. It is the sinner's last and ultimate opportunity to save himself.

Or as I have learned it the loss of Hope in ones Salvation. Or as it is formally stated "sin directly against the Holy Ghost".

[Prayerful]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

No.  The unforgivable sin is refusal of God's Mercy.  That's the sin directly against the Holy Ghost. It is the sinner's last and ultimate opportunity to save himself.

The two are really the same.

[Michael Wilson]

Doesn't the book of the apocalypse mention an unforgiveable sin?

For heaven's sake man; give God the benefit of the doubt.

[Miriam_M]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

No.  The unforgivable sin is refusal of God's Mercy.  That's the sin directly against the Holy Ghost. It is the sinner's last and ultimate opportunity to save himself.

No, the sin of refusing God's mercy is in fact forgivable, and remains forgivable as long as the sinner lives because as long as the sinner lives he has opportunity to make a choice, should the sinner decide to give in and accept God's mercy, he will be forgiven of having rejected it - this means that sin is forgivable.

Final impenitence occurs while the sinner lives.  He has a final opportunity to be forgiven, and he rejects that, either by refusing to acknowledge his sinfulness, or by acknowledging it, being offered opportunities to repent, and refusing those opportunities, including near his death.

[Non Nobis]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

No.  The unforgivable sin is refusal of God's Mercy.  That's the sin directly against the Holy Ghost. It is the sinner's last and ultimate opportunity to save himself.

The two are really the same.

Final impenitance, refusing God's mercy at the end, could be committed by someone who is still in the Church.  Not all mortal sins take you out of the Church in this life.

[Miriam_M]

There is only one sin that cannot be forgiven, that is the sin of dying outside of the Church. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Simple, no?

No.  The unforgivable sin is refusal of God's Mercy.  That's the sin directly against the Holy Ghost. It is the sinner's last and ultimate opportunity to save himself.

The two are really the same.

Final impenitance, refusing God's mercy at the end, could be committed by someone who is still in the Church.  Not all mortal sins take you out of the Church in this life.

Yes.  This is why Baptism is an indelible mark.  You can go through the formal process of "removing" that (invisible) mark, mechanically, by formally affiliating with and professing another religion or philosophical set of beliefs, but those are external efforts which do not release you from your membership and all that is implied by that. You remain a disobedient son or daughter of the Church.  And, as I think Non Nobis is referring to, you may also be excommunicated, but excommunication is a tool designed to make clear the danger of your disobedience and encourage your return. Excommunication does not mean that you are no longer morally responsible for your disobedience and heretical beliefs.