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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2020, 04:48:49 PM »
If Biden takes the White House, does that signify Communism finally taking over the USA, politically speaking? 

China has no interest in the USA becoming communist
   

Chi Haotian was the defense minister of China from 1993-2003. He was also vice chairman of the Chinese Communist Party’s Central Military Commission. He delivered the following speech to a select group of high level Communist Party cadres.

As explained in Gen. Chi’s speech, the Chinese Communist Party’s intention is to militarily defeat, occupy, and colonize the United States. This plan has been confirmed by a Russian defector source who worked in China and had information about a joint Sino-Russian plan to invade North America. This plan was drawn up in 1992, after the fall of the Soviet Union. The division of spoils was described thus: “Russia would get Alaska and parts of Canada. China would get the lower 48 states, with other countries invited in for ‘looting rights.’” The Russian Defector in question was Colonel Stanislav Lunev. A U.S. military source later confirmed the authenticity of the speech
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The speech was translated into English and first published by the Epoch Times in 2005.





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Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.

Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the key to solving all other issues. First, this makes it possible for us to have many people migrate there and even establish another China under the same leadership of the CCP. America was originally discovered by the ancestors of the yellow race, but Columbus gave credit to the white race.

We the descendants of the Chinese nation are entitled to the possession of the land! It is said that the residents of the yellow race have a very low social status in the United States. We need to liberate them.

Second, after solving the “issue of America,” the western countries of Europe would bow to us, not to mention Taiwan, Japan and other small countries. Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the mission assigned to the CCP members by history.

I sometimes think how cruel it is for China and the United States to be enemies that are bound to meet on a narrow road! Do you remember a movie about Liberation Army Troops led by Liu Bocheng and Deng Xiaoping? The title is something like “Decisive Battle on the Central Plains.” There is a famous remark in the movie that is full of power and grandeur: “The enemies are bound to meet on a narrow road, only the brave will win!” It is this kind of fighting to win or die spirit that enabled us to seize power in Mainland China.

It is historical destiny that China and the United States will come to unavoidable confrontation on a narrow path and fight each other! The United States, unlike Russia and Japan, has never occupied and hurt China, and also assisted China in its battle against the Japanese. But, it will certainly be an obstruction, and the biggest obstruction! In the long run, the relationship of China and the United States is one of a life-and-death struggle.

more here:
https://jrnyquist.blog/2019/09/11/the-secret-speech-of-general-chi-haotian/
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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2020, 04:56:30 PM »
Our Lady of Fatima told us that if Russia is not consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart, Russia's errors will spread throughout the world.

China is one of many nations who exemplify this.

China and Russia are getting very chummy this week.

The real question is what are "Russia's errors" that Our Lady about which Our Lady warned us?

Atheism, hatred of God, hatred of the Catholic Church, hatred of the Holy Mass, hatred of holy priests, hatred of the family, demonically - inspired totalitarianism.
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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2020, 06:08:05 PM »
Our Lady of Fatima told us that if Russia is not consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart, Russia's errors will spread throughout the world.

China is one of many nations who exemplify this.

China and Russia are getting very chummy this week.

The real question is what are "Russia's errors" that Our Lady about which Our Lady warned us?

Atheism, hatred of God, hatred of the Catholic Church, hatred of the Holy Mass, hatred of holy priests, hatred of the family, demonically - inspired totalitarianism.

To me the answer to the boldfaced question is paramount. Which "errors of Russia" exactly did she mean? Post Bolshevik Revolution, the assumption was that she was referring to Marxism or Communism. But Marxism and Communism were not invented in Russia: properly speaking, they were the errors of France, Germany, and England.

At the time when Our Lady spoke to the three seers at Fatima the Bolshevik takeover of Russia had not yet occurred. In fact, few people believed it would occur, including the future leaders of that revolution. Lenin, for example, was living in Switzerland writing pamphlets and Trotsky had just gotten back from New York City, where he had been the editor of a socialist newspaper. Both of those men thought that the communist revolution would break out first in Germany, and in fact, it almost did, as World War I came to an end. They also thought that Russia was too underdeveloped, and its people too religious and superstitious, to embrace atheistic Marxism.

I wonder if Mary could have been talking instead about the abolition of the historic European and Middle-Eastern monarchies as being the great error of Russia. During and immediately after World War I, almost every hereditary monarchy in Europe fell from power. The Prussian Hohenzollerns in Germany, Ludwig II in Bavaria, the Italian House of Savoy, the Spanish Bourbons, the Turkish-based Ottoman empire, and the Romanov dynasty of Russia, all collapsed either during the war or in the next few years after it.

The Russian Romanov dynasty headed by Czar Nicholas II was the first to go, replaced by a liberal democracy which only lasted for six months before the Bolshevik takeover. Our Lady's warning occurred during the period of the liberal democracy, not the Communist Revolution. The disintegration of the monarchies had a disastrous effect on European cultural life. Each monarchy had been attached to and supported an official religion. Church attendance and belief plummeted at the same time as the monarchies' disappearance. Industry and consumerism became the new paradigms and traditional farming areas and villages and small towns were abandoned as people flocked to the big cities. Previously held moral values evaporated just as quickly. These things occurred all over Europe, not just in Communist Russia.

The prevailing winds of Vatican II also blew against the notions of hereditary monarchies and established religions. Truly we see that error of Russia, the abolition of the monarchy, predominant in both the hierarchy and the laity of the Church at the time of the Council. No Vatican II document condemned communism by name, that's true, but neither did the Council embrace or recommend Communism. It did, however, embrace and even mandate the removal of established religion in Catholic countries and promoted democratic government.

I have never believed that hereditary monarchy is the only acceptable Catholic government, especially in countries that have never had one, like my own country for example, but the disastrous effects of the fall of the European monarchies after WWI cannot be denied. Their absence left a vacuum of power to be filled by Nazism, Fascism, and Stalinism. Waves of riots and revolutions swept through Europe, accompanied by genocide and ethnic cleansing, hunger, homelessness, corruption, and the worst pandemic in modern history, the Spanish flu. Eventually these tensions would cause a second world war, the worst we have ever known, and which in turn caused even more destruction of traditional values and ways of life.

This is just a theory I have, and of course Mary could have been referring to multiple errors. It's just that I'm fascinated by the interwar period and its effects on us today.
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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2020, 07:05:02 PM »
Errors of Russia:
Feminism
Destroy Holy Matrimony
IMHO
 

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2020, 10:16:48 PM »
You've never owned a business.  Free market capitalism died a long time ago.

What dominates is corporatism where large companies are given monopoly powers and protections from the government.  The huge regulatory burden (free market capitalism?) is to the benefit of corporations in that it allows the creation of monopoly.  You need to get big so you can have a team of lawyers and accountants, and even engineers, to keep you in regulatory compliance.  Meanwhile the corporations cooperate with government for political reasons.  This is why you see inclusion training, quotas for women on boards, gay appreciation month, and of course donations.  Even taxes are not a problem because the level of looting is so high.  A CEO can take down $20 Million IN ONE YEAR.  So what if he himself is looted for $10 Million?

What we have today is corporatism.  Monopoly and concentration of power.  If you believe we have "free market capitalism", do yourself a favor and read through regulation 119 from OSHA (the total regulatory burden just from OSHA fills a book case).  https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1910/1910.119  This is ONE regulation.  Read through it and learn something.  Then imagine if a group of say engineers want to take over a small plant because they see the waste and looting going on by Big Corporate and realize they can double productivity.  Can they comply with just ONE regulation?  And if you don't, it's called a "Willful" violation, which is an individual criminal offense which results in jail time.

Also, Biden is a vegetable who will be kept around to pardon Ghislaine, and then resign.  Kamala, a prostitute, was selected as president.  Check out her husband.

Actually, many people own businesses, either wholly or partly. Look up documents submitted by them to the SEC.

Corporatism is the result of free market capitalism. That is, one starts with competition, and then some become stronger and take over, and it reaches a point when they control government, too. In addition, with industrialization businesses grow (which is also the result of capitalism, as profits are reinvested to expand them), which leads to larger organizations.

In short, the result of free market capitalism is its opposite, and in order to return to it one will have to ironically go against it: regulate heavily and break up those who are powerful. But that will involve a government that essentially works for Big Business as the latter is the main source of not just public funds but even consumer credit.
 

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2020, 10:22:42 PM »
This makes no sense.  Basically you have to increase production according to population growth.  Technological advances has far exceeded population growth.  Just look at the incredible increases in food production.

Technological advances are dependent on increasing energy and material resources. For example, the main reason why food production increased from 1945 to the present was oil inputs, which allowed for mechanized agriculture, manufacturing, and even artificial fertilizer, not to mention energy needed for irrigation systems. The catch is that the energy return for oil in 1930 was 1:100, i.e., for the equivalent of one barrel of oil, you could extract a hundred barrels from the ground. Now, it's down to 20:

http://theoildrum.com/node/3786

And what affects oil also affects minerals needed for renewable energy, and more. The reason? Scientific common sense: when you have a limited biosphere, then you get diminishing returns.

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And they live in command economies.

That's also not true. Only Cuba and North Korea have those. Most countries have mixed economies.
 

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2020, 10:23:50 PM »
How many more millions of payoffs would it take, in your estimation, to put him in the pocket of the CCP?

Very likely much less than what Wall Street has been offering through lobbying and other means for decades.
 
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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2020, 10:32:17 PM »
Chi Haotian was the defense minister of China from 1993-2003. He was also vice chairman of the Chinese Communist Party’s Central Military Commission. He delivered the following speech to a select group of high level Communist Party cadres.

As explained in Gen. Chi’s speech, the Chinese Communist Party’s intention is to militarily defeat, occupy, and colonize the United States. This plan has been confirmed by a Russian defector source who worked in China and had information about a joint Sino-Russian plan to invade North America. This plan was drawn up in 1992, after the fall of the Soviet Union. The division of spoils was described thus: “Russia would get Alaska and parts of Canada. China would get the lower 48 states, with other countries invited in for ‘looting rights.’” The Russian Defector in question was Colonel Stanislav Lunev. A U.S. military source later confirmed the authenticity of the speech
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The speech was translated into English and first published by the Epoch Times in 2005.





. . .
Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.

Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the key to solving all other issues. First, this makes it possible for us to have many people migrate there and even establish another China under the same leadership of the CCP. America was originally discovered by the ancestors of the yellow race, but Columbus gave credit to the white race.

We the descendants of the Chinese nation are entitled to the possession of the land! It is said that the residents of the yellow race have a very low social status in the United States. We need to liberate them.

Second, after solving the “issue of America,” the western countries of Europe would bow to us, not to mention Taiwan, Japan and other small countries. Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the mission assigned to the CCP members by history.

I sometimes think how cruel it is for China and the United States to be enemies that are bound to meet on a narrow road! Do you remember a movie about Liberation Army Troops led by Liu Bocheng and Deng Xiaoping? The title is something like “Decisive Battle on the Central Plains.” There is a famous remark in the movie that is full of power and grandeur: “The enemies are bound to meet on a narrow road, only the brave will win!” It is this kind of fighting to win or die spirit that enabled us to seize power in Mainland China.

It is historical destiny that China and the United States will come to unavoidable confrontation on a narrow path and fight each other! The United States, unlike Russia and Japan, has never occupied and hurt China, and also assisted China in its battle against the Japanese. But, it will certainly be an obstruction, and the biggest obstruction! In the long run, the relationship of China and the United States is one of a life-and-death struggle.

more here:
https://jrnyquist.blog/2019/09/11/the-secret-speech-of-general-chi-haotian/

China does not like the U.S. because the U.S. and various Western powers had been bullying it since the nineteenth century. And the irony is that China was likely less interested in employing Communism as nationalist economics, which is what it finally accomplished in the early 1990s. The model is similar to that of Japan, the Asian Tigers, and the new Tiger Cubs.

But China is also aware that it cannot end up like the U.S., which relies on the use of the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency to maintain superpower status and uses its military (which is the most expensive in the world) to maintain over 800 military bases used to encircle China and Russia and control its allies. And all that involving incredible levels of spending and debt.

Instead, it uses a soft power approach, which is ironically what Trump wanted: engage in bilateral trade deals. But even Trump himself had to work with a swamp that has been engaging in neoconservatism and neoliberalism since the Reagan administration.

That's why to supplement such speeches we have documentaries like these:


The gist is that the majority of countries want only trade and peace deals. The U.S. needs the opposite because that's the only way it can justify incredible military spending to its public while keeping Wall Street (which relies on the strength of the dollar and access to natural resources in weak countries) rich.
 

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2020, 10:40:17 PM »
Our Lady of Fatima told us that if Russia is not consecrated to Her Immaculate Heart, Russia's errors will spread throughout the world.

China is one of many nations who exemplify this.

China and Russia are getting very chummy this week.

The real question is what are "Russia's errors" that Our Lady about which Our Lady warned us?

Atheism, hatred of God, hatred of the Catholic Church, hatred of the Holy Mass, hatred of holy priests, hatred of the family, demonically - inspired totalitarianism.

What should be noted, though, is that Russia is no longer Communist and, if any, appears to be more traditional and conservative than the U.S. or even various Western countries.

Meanwhile, China is still controlled by the CCP, but it is becoming more decadent like the U.S.

As for the U.S. and industrialized allies, many are drenched in "demonically-inspired" liberalism coupled with totalitarianism in the form of consumer spending, and in an economy with a government essentially controlled by the rich.
 
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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2020, 10:45:21 PM »
Errors of Russia:
Feminism
Destroy Holy Matrimony
IMHO

If I'm not mistaken, Russia is generally anti-feminist, anti-gay, and wants traditional marriage as part of its Constitution.

Countries like Poland and Hungary are also following suit.
 

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2020, 10:57:17 PM »
The errors of Russia spread to the USA, and the West.  Like Coronavirus spreading from Wuhan to this hemisphere (not an accident). 
 

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2020, 12:21:11 AM »
Errors of Russia:
Feminism
Destroy Holy Matrimony
IMHO

Abortion - Russia was the first country in the world to legalize abortion and the error spread from Russia.
Like John Vennari (RIP) said "Why not just do it?  What would it hurt?"
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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2020, 12:33:36 AM »
Errors of Russia:
Feminism
Destroy Holy Matrimony
IMHO

Abortion - Russia was the first country in the world to legalize abortion and the error spread from Russia.

Yes, 100 years ago in 1920, 3 years after Fatima.  And they still have (at least one of) the highest abortion rates in the world.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2020/11/17/november-1920-2020-a-century-of-abortion-in-russia/
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[Job  38:1-5]  Then the Lord answered Job out of a whirlwind, and said: [2] Who is this that wrappeth up sentences in unskillful words? [3] Gird up thy loins like a man: I will ask thee, and answer thou me. [4] Where wast thou when I laid up the foundations of the earth? tell me if thou hast understanding. [5] Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2020, 01:45:45 AM »
Chi Haotian was the defense minister of China from 1993-2003. He was also vice chairman of the Chinese Communist Party’s Central Military Commission. He delivered the following speech to a select group of high level Communist Party cadres.

As explained in Gen. Chi’s speech, the Chinese Communist Party’s intention is to militarily defeat, occupy, and colonize the United States. This plan has been confirmed by a Russian defector source who worked in China and had information about a joint Sino-Russian plan to invade North America. This plan was drawn up in 1992, after the fall of the Soviet Union. The division of spoils was described thus: “Russia would get Alaska and parts of Canada. China would get the lower 48 states, with other countries invited in for ‘looting rights.’” The Russian Defector in question was Colonel Stanislav Lunev. A U.S. military source later confirmed the authenticity of the speech
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The speech was translated into English and first published by the Epoch Times in 2005.





. . .
Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.

Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the key to solving all other issues. First, this makes it possible for us to have many people migrate there and even establish another China under the same leadership of the CCP. America was originally discovered by the ancestors of the yellow race, but Columbus gave credit to the white race.

We the descendants of the Chinese nation are entitled to the possession of the land! It is said that the residents of the yellow race have a very low social status in the United States. We need to liberate them.

Second, after solving the “issue of America,” the western countries of Europe would bow to us, not to mention Taiwan, Japan and other small countries. Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the mission assigned to the CCP members by history.

I sometimes think how cruel it is for China and the United States to be enemies that are bound to meet on a narrow road! Do you remember a movie about Liberation Army Troops led by Liu Bocheng and Deng Xiaoping? The title is something like “Decisive Battle on the Central Plains.” There is a famous remark in the movie that is full of power and grandeur: “The enemies are bound to meet on a narrow road, only the brave will win!” It is this kind of fighting to win or die spirit that enabled us to seize power in Mainland China.

It is historical destiny that China and the United States will come to unavoidable confrontation on a narrow path and fight each other! The United States, unlike Russia and Japan, has never occupied and hurt China, and also assisted China in its battle against the Japanese. But, it will certainly be an obstruction, and the biggest obstruction! In the long run, the relationship of China and the United States is one of a life-and-death struggle.

more here:
https://jrnyquist.blog/2019/09/11/the-secret-speech-of-general-chi-haotian/

China does not like the U.S. because the U.S. and various Western powers had been bullying it since the nineteenth century. And the irony is that China was likely less interested in employing Communism as nationalist economics, which is what it finally accomplished in the early 1990s. The model is similar to that of Japan, the Asian Tigers, and the new Tiger Cubs.

But China is also aware that it cannot end up like the U.S., which relies on the use of the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency to maintain superpower status and uses its military (which is the most expensive in the world) to maintain over 800 military bases used to encircle China and Russia and control its allies. And all that involving incredible levels of spending and debt.

Instead, it uses a soft power approach, which is ironically what Trump wanted: engage in bilateral trade deals. But even Trump himself had to work with a swamp that has been engaging in neoconservatism and neoliberalism since the Reagan administration.

That's why to supplement such speeches we have documentaries like these:


The gist is that the majority of countries want only trade and peace deals. The U.S. needs the opposite because that's the only way it can justify incredible military spending to its public while keeping Wall Street (which relies on the strength of the dollar and access to natural resources in weak countries) rich.

Go to 34 mins on video for snippet on Vision 2020 developed in 90's...includes dominance everywhere including space!!


Ralfy.....Davis???
 

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Re: Communism Taking Over the USA on January 20th?
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2020, 07:53:10 AM »
Errors of Russia:
Feminism
Destroy Holy Matrimony
IMHO

If I'm not mistaken, Russia is generally anti-feminist, anti-gay, and wants traditional marriage as part of its Constitution.

Countries like Poland and Hungary are also following suit.
You're not mistaken, Ralfy.  My understanding is that the Russian commies first outlawed marriage, but it messed everything up so badly, they changed it.  But the feminism spread like the cancer it is, and now married bundles of twigs can marry and adopt baby boys....