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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2020, 03:53:52 PM »
They are flat-earthers.

That is not as bad as being Judaizers.  We should be more concerned with heresy than with nuttiness.
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2020, 04:06:57 PM »
I am less concerned with heresy when it comes from nutters, because nutters only convert other nutters.  And not many.

Nobody would convert me who taught flat-earth nonsense.   It is so unbelivably stupid.

Just as you need magnets to remove metal particles from food, you need idiot magnets to keep Traditionalist chapels sane.  The best thing that happened to the SSPX in the last 20 years was The Resistance.  All of the worst morons, and reactionary idiots who panic over a 90,000 dollar water bill because they cannot read a water meter, or use their common sense, left.  The kind of irrational freaks who make themselves bishops.

When Vetus Ordo becomes an apologist for Islam, that is when I worry, because he is intelligent and well read.  I actually liked the guy.
 

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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2020, 12:57:25 AM »
I like to think that new members who join this forum for the first time enjoy a clean slate.  Meaning, if we are going to judge Croix, he ought to be judged based on his conduct on this forum, not on a different forum where the culture is to say the least, defective.  However, he did use the same name and avatar.  So, if the moderator chooses to make an exception to this generous but unwritten rule given the context, it is understandable. 

As for his diet nonsense, and it is that, please don't be fooled by Croix that it is sourced from Dr. Mcdougall.  Dr. Mcdougall is not at all an advocate for consuming the amounts of sugar that I believe Croix advocates.  Croix is just hijacking a prominent an sane figure in the diet community to achieve an absurd end.

Croix is I believe a diet disciple of Harley from the durianrider youtube channel.  If I am not mistaken, Croix said that he used to race bicycles in his past.  So, I am convinced that his pro sugar diet ravings are sourced from the celebrity vegan cyclist durianrider on youtube.  You will want to watch the linked video to understand what we are talking about regarding this particular sugar consumption fad.  Harley/durian rider is a master troll.

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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2020, 01:41:01 AM »
That is incredibly stupid Philip.  Leopards don't change their spots.  The beauty of the Internet is that your past does follow you.  We can therefore not subject ourselves to trolls if we wish to filter them out.

God can forgive anyone.  But we don't need to allow rabblerousers, flat earthers, jew hating conspiracy theorists, commies or modernists on this forum when we know their MO.

We have lost members like my brother Clau Clau precisely because we tolerate these assholes.  It comes at a cost of good people who don't want the asshatery of kooks like him.

KK will ban him at some stage.  Until then I intend to call him out whenever I can.  They have a forum for nutters and he was banned from that.  He made it very clear in posts on there what he thinks of SD members.  I listed his posts yesterday.

It is weakness like yours that let the seminaries be infiltrated by faggots.
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2020, 02:42:48 AM »
That is incredibly stupid Philip.  Leopards don't change their spots.  The beauty of the Internet is that your past does follow you.  We can therefore not subject ourselves to trolls.

God can forgive anyone.  But we don't need to allow rabblerousers, flat earthers, jew hating conspiracy theorists, commies or modernists on this forum when we know their MO.

We have lost members like my brother Clau Clau precisely because we tolerate these asshole.  It comes at a cost of good people who don't want the asshatery of kooks like him.

Our Lord says he desires mercy, not sacrifice.  If I am not mistaken, Croix has changed his forum name at least three times over the last 7 or so years.  And, if it is the same person I am thinking of, Croix was/has been a genuine sspx/Lefebvre supporter.  And, I don't recall him being ignorant of the finer details regarding tradition.  I don't think he is a flat earther.  His fault if you wish to call it one is that he is definitely consumed with exposing judaism.  However, the same can be said of Fr. Fahey, and we all value him.

His profile comment about having three wives is very bizarre, and it needs to be fleshed out in my opinion.  Some people learn a valuable lesson from being kicked off of a forum, as Croix was from CI.  Time will tell us what he has learned.
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2020, 03:07:02 AM »
Man, I am darn good.  I just went on the channel that Croix has been linking, at it has a video of none other than durianrider.  I honestly did not see that video when I said that Croix is a durianrider disciple because of his sugar diet talk.  100% proof.  Case closed. 

Not to bash on Croix, because I am a cyclist, and I am very familiar with durianrider.  Durianrider is a love/hate figure.  There are some who totally hate him, and it ruins them.  There are some who totally love him, and for them he inspires them to lose weight and get outdoors and go live/enjoy life.  And, then there are those who love him and hate him.  Those are the options, take your pick.
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2020, 07:08:22 AM »
I like to think that new members who join this forum for the first time enjoy a clean slate.  Meaning, if we are going to judge Croix, he ought to be judged based on his conduct on this forum, not on a different forum where the culture is to say the least, defective.  However, he did use the same name and avatar.  So, if the moderator chooses to make an exception to this generous but unwritten rule given the context, it is understandable. 

It is somewhat of a moot point since I have been reacting to Croix solely based on his conduct on this forum and I came to a conclusion similar to that of Greg.  Just looking at Croix's profile and posts is enough to see that there is something off, without any reference to other forums.  Personally, I consider his posting a video from a heretic while calling it "Catholic truth" is sufficient grounds to ban him.  How bad must a poster be, if he is capable of making Greg and me form an alliance? 

Not that an alliance is necessarily a bad thing.  I have said for years that Greg and I had the dynamic of the partners at the beginning of a buddy cop movie.  We've only been waiting for the right villain to come along.  I daresay we will be saving each other's lives next.  What should we call this?  Traditional Catholic Lethal Weapon?  Lethal Traditional Catholic Weapon?
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2020, 08:04:02 AM »
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I'm not a flat earther, you penis head.
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2020, 08:07:02 AM »
I like to think that new members who join this forum for the first time enjoy a clean slate.  Meaning, if we are going to judge Croix, he ought to be judged based on his conduct on this forum, not on a different forum where the culture is to say the least, defective.  However, he did use the same name and avatar.  So, if the moderator chooses to make an exception to this generous but unwritten rule given the context, it is understandable. 

It is somewhat of a moot point since I have been reacting to Croix solely based on his conduct on this forum and I came to a conclusion similar to that of Greg.  Just looking at Croix's profile and posts is enough to see that there is something off, without any reference to other forums.  Personally, I consider his posting a video from a heretic while calling it "Catholic truth" is sufficient grounds to ban him.  How bad must a poster be, if he is capable of making Greg and me form an alliance? 

Not that an alliance is necessarily a bad thing.  I have said for years that Greg and I had the dynamic of the partners at the beginning of a buddy cop movie.  We've only been waiting for the right villain to come along.  I daresay we will be saving each other's lives next.  What should we call this?  Traditional Catholic Lethal Weapon?  Lethal Traditional Catholic Weapon?
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JayneK, I'm disappointed in you, but I still love you. You condemn me for merely posting a video of a man who professes the Name of Jesus Christ, yet, you say nothing about Vetus Ordo promulgating ideas from a Muslim pagan.
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2020, 08:59:48 AM »
I wonder why he wants to participate in a forum of "fags, feminists, communists, neo-Catholic liberals, socialists, heliocentrists and evolutionists" as he describes this place.

I used science and logic to destroy an evolutionist on this forum about 5 years ago. How do you like those apples? You crypto-agnostic worm.

Here: http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=9766.75
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2020, 09:41:05 AM »
JayneK, I'm disappointed in you, but I still love you. You condemn me for merely posting a video of a man who professes the Name of Jesus Christ, yet, you say nothing about Vetus Ordo promulgating ideas from a Muslim pagan.

I do find it a bit problematic that Vetus Ordo draws so much material from Muslim sources, but, at least, he has always clearly identified them as Muslim.  He has never labeled them as traditional Catholic truth. 

Arguably, the man in the video you posted does not profess the name of Jesus Christ. The "pastor" consistently referred to Our Lord as "Yeshuah Hamashiach" a Hebrew name that appears nowhere in Scripture.  I realize that this is a translation of "Jesus Christ", but there is no tradition of Christians using Hebrew like this.  It is typically an affectation of Judaizers, like Jews for Jesus or Hebrew Israelites, and closely tied to their heretical beliefs.

I'm not a flat earther [...]

You might not personally believe the earth is flat but you posted a video by a flat earther. You should have been able to figure out that anyone who thinks the earth is flat is so stupid that he is unlikely to have anything worthwhile to say on any subject.  Your decision to post a video from someone who is both a heretic and a nutter shows remarkably poor judgement.  How could you think it was appropriate for this forum?

I attempted to watch another video you posted too.  That speaker used so much profanity that I could not even tell what point he was making.  Even if there were a point consistent with
Catholicism somewhere in there, I find it highly unlikely that it contained a valuable insight that I have not already heard expressed far more articulately by a traditional Catholic.

I do not know what criteria you are using to choose videos to post here but you do not seem able to select anything worth the time to watch it. I am not going to waste any more time on them.


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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2020, 11:40:29 AM »
O Lord, deliver us from the horns of unicorns.   
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2020, 01:49:30 PM »
Arguably, the man in the video you posted does not profess the name of Jesus Christ. The "pastor" consistently referred to Our Lord as "Yeshuah Hamashiach" a Hebrew name that appears nowhere in Scripture.  I realize that this is a translation of "Jesus Christ", but there is no tradition of Christians using Hebrew like this.  It is typically an affectation of Judaizers, like Jews for Jesus or Hebrew Israelites, and closely tied to their heretical beliefs.

"Judaizer" as a term, in the way you are using it, is just sectarian semantics.  But Christianity in toto itself is the real Judaizing monster, the 800-lb. gorilla of Jewishness: by its missionaries and its conquerors, Europe was given a Hebrew religion.  Yeshua, Jesus.  You say "to-may-to," he says "to-mah-to."  At least we were spared Mohammedanism, though.  Could be worse.
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2020, 02:05:47 PM »
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Judaizers are Christians who teach it is necessary to adopt Jewish customs and practices, especially those found in the Law of Moses, to be saved. The term is derived from the Koine Greek word Ἰουδαΐζειν (Ioudaizein), used once in the Greek New Testament (Galatians 2:14),[1] when Paul publicly challenges Peter for compelling Gentile converts to Early Christianity to "judaize".[2][3] This episode is known as the incident at Antioch.

This term includes groups who claim the necessity of continued obedience to the Law of Moses found in the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Bible) for gentiles.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizers
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Re: Question for Croix de Fer
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2020, 02:12:48 PM »
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Judaizers are Christians who teach it is necessary to adopt Jewish customs and practices, especially those found in the Law of Moses, to be saved. The term is derived from the Koine Greek word Ἰουδαΐζειν (Ioudaizein), used once in the Greek New Testament (Galatians 2:14),[1] when Paul publicly challenges Peter for compelling Gentile converts to Early Christianity to "judaize".[2][3] This episode is known as the incident at Antioch.

This term includes groups who claim the necessity of continued obedience to the Law of Moses found in the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Bible) for gentiles.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizers

For heaven's sake.  As I said, I know what it means in the sectarian sense, and I realize you care about it in those terms.  If you will but momentarily broaden your view, you will see that it might also be used to describe the missionary activity of a Jewish religion.
"The sneakiness of prigs, the conventicle secrecy, gloomy concepts like hell, like sacrifice of the guiltless, like unio mystica in drinking blood; above all, the slowly fanned fire of revenge, of chandala revenge—all that is what became master over Rome."

Rome sank to whoredom and became a stew
The Caesars became beasts, and God—a Jew!