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Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« on: March 25, 2020, 09:02:46 PM »
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Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years

Soon after this film aired, Agafia found a helper who has now been living with her for more than a year. Georgy Danilov, 53, is from Orenburg. He is an Old Believer. It was Agafia’s spiritual father who found and blessed her helper. Georgy has been doing the toughest chores for almost two years: he chops firewood, brings water from the river, and digs the vegetable garden. Agafia doesn’t always see eye to eye with Georgy. She views him as a novice and demands his full obedience and submission, which doesn’t always sit well with Georgy. Despite their differences, they try to find common ground. Apart from the main helper, volunteers and students from various Russian cities also come to Agafia’s hut to help her out.

In the mid-17th century, the leader of Russia’s Orthodox Church, Patriarch Nikon, introduced radical reforms in Russia. Many couldn’t accept the changes and became known as “Old Believers”. To avoid religious persecution first from the Orthodox Church and then from the Soviets, families fled to some of the most remote corners of the world. In 1978, one such family was discovered by a group of geologists in the remote Russian Republic of Khakassia, Siberia. The Lykovs looked as if they belonged to a previous century: they dressed in homespun clothes and used primitive instruments in their everyday life. They were completely self-sufficient and still highly religious.

Today, Agafia, 70, is the last surviving member of this family.  When RT Doc filmmakers met her, she was in desperate need of a helper. They encourage her to write a letter to Old Believers everywhere in an attempt to find one. This letter, written in Old Slavonic language, is available on our site.

The film crew also interviews Erofey Sedov, a former drilling geologist. He was one of those who discovered the Lykovs and told the world about them. He got to know them well and is now ready to share information that will make us see the familiar story of this family of hermits in a different light. But is any of it true?

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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 01:26:59 AM »
Watched this some time ago, love watching the two "work" together....
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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 10:03:05 PM »
This is another interesting video about the phenomenon of the Cтаровeры. You can watch it if you click on the link below.

This family lived in South America but recently returned to Russia.

Children of the schism: Old Believers Living a 17th-Century Lifestyle

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Resisting civilization’s impact has been their way of life for centuries. Since their ancestors strongly rejected Orthodox reform they have dedicated themselves to protecting their traditions and hiding from the outside world in the most secluded retreats. Their last haven was in Latin America, but they have returned to start anew in Russia. Are they thriving in their newfound motherland?
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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2020, 04:06:19 AM »
This is another interesting video about the phenomenon of the Cтаровeры. You can watch it if you click on the link below.

This family lived in South America but recently returned to Russia.

Children of the schism: Old Believers Living a 17th-Century Lifestyle

In RT.

Resisting civilization’s impact has been their way of life for centuries. Since their ancestors strongly rejected Orthodox reform they have dedicated themselves to protecting their traditions and hiding from the outside world in the most secluded retreats. Their last haven was in Latin America, but they have returned to start anew in Russia. Are they thriving in their newfound motherland?

Gee, forcing a liturgical reform on a whole Church with no compromise, outcasting the dissenters, creating a chasm in centuries of heritage, all done in the name of being more "Apostolic" while actually not being more Apostolic? Which ticks off the very religious population and causes a schism, with that religious population talking about how such a reform is indicative of the End Times?

Sounds familiar from somewhere.
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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2020, 09:27:21 AM »
Im thinking if time has shown that the old believers were wrong, because a tree is known by its fruits and this Agafia documentary is one long tale of sexual depravity. Her father had intercourse with her sister according to the old man (who tried to seduce her when she was young). Clearly God has not granted them a peace of mind and virtuous deeds.
 

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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2020, 10:43:15 AM »
Im thinking if time has shown that the old believers were wrong, because a tree is known by its fruits and this Agafia documentary is one long tale of sexual depravity. Her father had intercourse with her sister according to the old man (who tried to seduce her when she was young). Clearly God has not granted them a peace of mind and virtuous deeds.

Many Catholic families from all eras have had depraved members, even clergy, and I don't see how that reflects on the truth value of Catholicism.
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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2020, 03:00:10 PM »
Im thinking if time has shown that the old believers were wrong, because a tree is known by its fruits and this Agafia documentary is one long tale of sexual depravity. Her father had intercourse with her sister according to the old man (who tried to seduce her when she was young). Clearly God has not granted them a peace of mind and virtuous deeds.

One shouldn't use monsters of individuals to analyze the validity of claim. Catholicism would be definitely proven false, and have been proven false a long time ago if one had to measure it based on sexual depravity, even at the hands of some Popes.

While some of the justifications for the Old Believers are ridiculous; like the new sign of the cross being heretical, the New Liturgy being a Satanic mockery of God, or even that Peter the Great being the Antichrist; this schism should have never happened in the first place. It's never a wise thing to force a completely new Liturgy or Mass on people in the name of "keeping in spirit with the Apostles," and then going out of your way to censor those who dissent in really juvenile and in some cases blasphemous ways.
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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2020, 03:29:54 PM »
Her father had intercourse with her sister according to the old man (who tried to seduce her when she was young). Clearly God has not granted them a peace of mind and virtuous deeds.

Yes, according to Yerofey Sedov. It's simply a claim that he made out of nowhere in the documentary and that he can't possibly back up. Suspicious, to say the least.

Furthermore, regarding fruits and peace of mind: the way that this family, and Agafia in particular, has been able to survive in the wilderness for so many decades is remarkable. It takes a gigantic spirit of resilience to be able to withstand it, live through it and keep one's faith and a sane mind.
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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2020, 04:13:08 PM »
Her father had intercourse with her sister according to the old man (who tried to seduce her when she was young). Clearly God has not granted them a peace of mind and virtuous deeds.

Yes, according to Yerofey Sedov. It's simply a claim that he made out of nowhere in the documentary and that he can't possibly back up. Suspicious, to say the least.

Furthermore, regarding fruits and peace of mind: the way that this family, and Agafia in particular, has been able to survive in the wilderness for so many decades is remarkable. It takes a gigantic spirit of resilience to be able to withstand it, live through it and keep one's faith and a sane mind.
Being the old satyr that he is I bet he can suspect incontinence in other men.
 

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Re: Agafia: Hermit Surviving in Russian Wilderness for 70 years
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2020, 10:17:09 PM »
Her father had intercourse with her sister according to the old man (who tried to seduce her when she was young). Clearly God has not granted them a peace of mind and virtuous deeds.

Yes, according to Yerofey Sedov. It's simply a claim that he made out of nowhere in the documentary and that he can't possibly back up. Suspicious, to say the least.

Furthermore, regarding fruits and peace of mind: the way that this family, and Agafia in particular, has been able to survive in the wilderness for so many decades is remarkable. It takes a gigantic spirit of resilience to be able to withstand it, live through it and keep one's faith and a sane mind.

Being the old satyr that he is I bet he can suspect incontinence in other men.

He can also slander a dead man with impunity because he was rejected by his daughter. Even the people doing the documentary found the "revelation" strange and out of place.
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