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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2020, 08:34:26 PM »
There were only Catholics, Jews Muslims and pagans in the Middle Ages. If you want to buy historical clothing you could try Prior Attire. https://www.priorattire.co.uk/ They are authentic but by no means cheap.
 

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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2020, 12:31:10 AM »
I hope no one tells Our Lord that tobacco use is a sin. He’d have to kick out all those canonized saints who used it, even to death. Imagine the uproar.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/11/09/in-the-habit-a-history-of-catholicism-and-tobacco/

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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2020, 03:24:23 AM »
I hope no one tells Our Lord that tobacco use is a sin. He’d have to kick out all those canonized saints who used it, even to death. Imagine the uproar.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/11/09/in-the-habit-a-history-of-catholicism-and-tobacco/

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1958 sect can not Canonize and Beatify. John XXIII was the antipope.

Where are the credible evidence ?

Was it known in those days that tobacco is harmful ?
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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2020, 01:40:17 PM »
Is English your first language? Are you male or female? Do you know anything about sewing?  You may want to study this book to familiarlze yourself with the subject.  The Medieval Tailor's Assistant, 2nd Edition: Common Garments 1100-1480
 
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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2020, 02:34:05 PM »
I hope no one tells Our Lord that tobacco use is a sin. He’d have to kick out all those canonized saints who used it, even to death. Imagine the uproar.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/11/09/in-the-habit-a-history-of-catholicism-and-tobacco/

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Dunno, King James I ws a Freemason, persecuting heretic and homosexual, but his early and negative views on tobacco, are wiser. Leo XIII and St Pius X quite liked a tonic wine Vin Mariani and even endorsed it, but a wine laced with cocaine, might not be too healthy.
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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2020, 02:37:50 PM »
Is English your first language? Are you male or female? Do you know anything about sewing?  You may want to study this book to familiarlze yourself with the subject.  The Medieval Tailor's Assistant, 2nd Edition: Common Garments 1100-1480

No idea about the language. He is is a he if his profile is correct. Also, he knows nothing about clothing or sewing.

That is a great book recommendation.
 

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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2020, 07:05:41 AM »
There were only Catholics, Jews Muslims and pagans in the Middle Ages. If you want to buy historical clothing you could try Prior Attire. https://www.priorattire.co.uk/ They are authentic but by no means cheap.

heretics were also in the Middle Ages, moreover jews and muslims not Jews and Muslims. It is about Catholic early-Medieval, Modest this is also with cutting out max with a breadth of two fingers, very Simple and cheap. This topic should be rather called "Catholic early-Medieval dresses".

Is English your first language? Are you male or female? Do you know anything about sewing?  You may want to study this book to familiarlze yourself with the subject.  The Medieval Tailor's Assistant, 2nd Edition: Common Garments 1100-1480

My first language is false Polish. But I try to learn Polish. I do not know sewing. Dresses with not Modest cutting out, and not simple, it seems to me are already not Medieval but so-called "early-renaissance" or so-called "renaissance".
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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2020, 07:32:09 AM »
I hope no one tells Our Lord that tobacco use is a sin. He’d have to kick out all those canonized saints who used it, even to death. Imagine the uproar.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/11/09/in-the-habit-a-history-of-catholicism-and-tobacco/

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1958 sect can not Canonize and Beatify. John XXIII was the antipope.

Where are the credible evidence ?

Was it known in those days that tobacco is harmful ?

Tobacco isn’t anymore harmful than various foods and sedentary lifestyles are. Less so, actually. A lot of the negative consequences for (many) things are a combo of factors. The generations who smoked the most also grew up inhaling asbestos and a variety of other things now known to cause cancer (at least in theory). Yet, not all got lung cancer. Plenty of people dipped, chewed, or otherwise snuffed tobacco. No bad effects (even when combined with aggravating environmental factors). My mother has never smoked a day in her life and has COPD. A great grandmother on my dad’s side dipped tobacco and ate nothing if it wasn’t fried in lard, boiled and salted, or coated in sugar. She was a stick and died at 104 from a broken hip’s complications. Go figure.





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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2020, 07:42:43 AM »
I hope no one tells Our Lord that tobacco use is a sin. He’d have to kick out all those canonized saints who used it, even to death. Imagine the uproar.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/11/09/in-the-habit-a-history-of-catholicism-and-tobacco/

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Dunno, King James I ws a Freemason, persecuting heretic and homosexual, but his early and negative views on tobacco, are wiser. Leo XIII and St Pius X quite liked a tonic wine Vin Mariani and even endorsed it, but a wine laced with cocaine, might not be too healthy.

I’d expect a poof like James to find tobacco icky.

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"And what use are the victories on the battlefield if we are ourselves are defeated in our innermost personal selves?" - St. Maximilian Kolbe

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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2020, 12:34:04 PM »
Dunno, King James I ws a Freemason, persecuting heretic and homosexual, but his early and negative views on tobacco, are wiser. Leo XIII and St Pius X quite liked a tonic wine Vin Mariani and even endorsed it, but a wine laced with cocaine, might not be too healthy.

jewmasonry was founded in 1717 and king James I died in 1625. Except persecuting heretic and negative views on tobacco, what are you writing about ?
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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2020, 01:18:55 PM »
Dunno, King James I ws a Freemason, persecuting heretic and homosexual, but his early and negative views on tobacco, are wiser. Leo XIII and St Pius X quite liked a tonic wine Vin Mariani and even endorsed it, but a wine laced with cocaine, might not be too healthy.

jewmasonry was founded in 1717 and king James I died in 1625. Except persecuting heretic and negative views on tobacco, what are you writing about ?

No. Non operative Masons, that is, gentlemen who were not stonemasons, started to be admitted in Scotland in the later sixteenth century, with Statutes (called First Schaw Statutes) for the lodges of Scotland authored by Master of Works to James I (then VI of Scotland) William Schaw, enacted in 1598. Hermetic practices like the Art of Memory, which for Freemasons meant requirement to memorise lectures before advancing to a new degree, were a particularly fascination to James I. It might be noted that the KJV is the only bible used by Freemasons.
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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2020, 02:28:41 AM »
Dunno, King James I ws a Freemason, persecuting heretic and homosexual, but his early and negative views on tobacco, are wiser. Leo XIII and St Pius X quite liked a tonic wine Vin Mariani and even endorsed it, but a wine laced with cocaine, might not be too healthy.

jewmasonry was founded in 1717 and king James I died in 1625. Except persecuting heretic and negative views on tobacco, what are you writing about ?

No. Non operative Masons, that is, gentlemen who were not stonemasons, started to be admitted in Scotland in the later sixteenth century, with Statutes (called First Schaw Statutes) for the lodges of Scotland authored by Master of Works to James I (then VI of Scotland) William Schaw, enacted in 1598. Hermetic practices like the Art of Memory, which for Freemasons meant requirement to memorise lectures before advancing to a new degree, were a particularly fascination to James I. It might be noted that the KJV is the only bible used by Freemasons.

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Re: Catholic Medieval dresses
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2020, 03:32:02 AM »
It seems to me that the following suits best early Middle Ages dress.

It is first of all about Simplicity, which is a feature of Modesty.

As for the first photo below, Christian woman hath to possess a headcovering completely covering long uncoloured hair.






 




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Of course, to reflect the reality of these dresses, the material should probably be linen, the cotton if it was at the time then it was in small quantities and it was expensive and so it was immodest.

The colours should also suit the colours available during this period.
The dress can not be purple because this evidenced about immodesty, about wealth due to the expensive purple pigment obtained from multitude of sea snails.



 

 

 


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Headcovering simple as in the photo. Of course, a headcovering can not show hair under it and the scarf hath to cover all the hair.

The above dress without this slit and the ornament under the neck which fasten it together.

Of course she could not, she can not and she will not be able to paint herself.

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