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"Abrahamic Family House" ... slipping under the radar
« on: November 22, 2019, 06:08:58 PM »
This was recently brought to my attention, and I'm baffled that among traditionalist Christian groups, this just passed by without a second thought.

In September of this year, in Abu Dhabi, the organization the "Higher Committee of Human Fraternity", supported by the UAE government, which was formed after the "Document of Human Fraternity" was signed by Pope Francis (said document which says that God wills a plurality of religions in the same way He wills race and gender), this organization unveiled plans and designs for the "Abrahamic Family House."


This is a set of three similar-looking buildings (of "lovely" Modern Art) - a Mosque, a Synagogue, and a Church - that are all built on one foundation. An obvious theological message.


https://religionnews.com/2019/09/23/higher-committee-of-human-fraternity-unveils-design-for-the-abrahamic-family-house/





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You know, I was always kind of skeptical when the subject of Masonic or Intelligence Agency infiltration came up because the extent and power that was portrayed seemed unsubstantiated and at points contradictory. I didn't doubt there was malicious Masonic or Agency infiltration - one just has to look at the recent Ecumenical Patriarchs of Constantinople, who besides Bartholomew, were all Freemasons - and the State Department's clear and unambiguous role in the Ukrainian Orthodox schism (not only leaked telephone calls, but the U.S. State Department issuing like 3 statements of support for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and visits with the Ukrainian regime and Patriarch Bartholomew) - just I didn't believe that it's as massive as Traditionalist Catholics, Orthodox, or Fundamentalist Protestants like to portray.

However, each day, I become more and more open to the idea when giant neon light signs come up like this.


Also, Archbishop Vigano came out and condemned it as the New Tower of Babel.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abp-vigano-decries-pope-approved-plan-to-build-abrahamic-religious-site-with-muslims-jews
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Re: "Abrahamic Family House" ... slipping under the radar
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2019, 06:42:21 AM »
In this house, the rule is that the Jews are allowed to bully the Muslims, and the Muslims are allowed to bully the Christians. The Christians must also be the loudest in giving thanks for this arrangement.
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Re: "Abrahamic Family House" ... slipping under the radar
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2019, 09:32:12 AM »
Having watched the video, the 'church' is definitely the ugliest of the three.

Meanwhile, the mosque is quite beautiful and the synagogue is at least striking.

But the 'church' from the outside has no appeal at all.
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Re: "Abrahamic Family House" ... slipping under the radar
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2019, 09:53:21 AM »
Unless I'm mistaken, there were no churches at all in Saudi Arabia before this. Christians had to be basically anonymous to pray together.

I just had a glimpse at the video. It looks like the design for the church was almost taken from the architecture used for mosques, which doesn't really fit our traditional Catholic architecture. I would also prefer it to be built with more icons and statues, but it's a start I guess.

Edit: wiki for e.g. says "Currently there are no official churches in Saudi Arabia of any Christian denomination.[8] The small number of Saudi Arabian Christians meet in internet chat rooms and private meetings.[8]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Saudi_Arabia
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Re: "Abrahamic Family House" ... slipping under the radar
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2019, 10:25:54 AM »
This is the model of the "Universalist Religion" all the religions on the same level; this is a continuation of the "Spirit of Assissi" and of Vatican II; and it brings to mind St. Pius X"s Condemnation of "The Sillon" the Catholic Workers' movement of France in "Our Apostolic Mandate":
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The truth is that the Sillonist leaders are self-confessed and irrepressible idealists; they claim to regenerate the working class by first elevating the conscience of Man; they have a social doctrine, and they have religious and philosophical principles for the reconstruction of society upon new foundations; they have a particular conception of human dignity, freedom, justice and brotherhood; and, in an attempt to justify their social dreams, they put forward the Gospel, but interpreted in their own way; and what is even more serious, they call to witness Christ, but a diminished and distorted Christ.......imagine this society in which, in the conscience of everyone, personal and family interests are so subordinate that a superior interest always takes precedence over them. Could not such a society almost do without any authority? And would it not be the embodiment of the ideal of human dignity, with each citizen having the soul of a king, and each worker the soul of a master? Snatched away from the pettiness of private interests, and raised up to the interests of the profession and, even higher, to those of the whole nation and, higher still, to those of the whole human race (for the Sillon’s field of vision is not bound by the national borders, it encompasses all men even to the ends of the earth), the human heart, enlarged by the love of the common-wealth, would embrace all comrades of the same profession, all compatriots, all men. Such is the ideal of human greatness and nobility to be attained through the famous popular trilogy: LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY........The same applies to the notion of Fraternity which they found on the love of common interest or, beyond all philosophies and religions, on the mere notion of humanity, thus embracing with an equal love and tolerance all human beings and their miseries, whether these are intellectual, moral, or physical and temporal. But Catholic doctrine tells us that the primary duty of charity does not lie in the toleration of false ideas, however sincere they may be, nor in the theoretical or practical indifference towards the errors and vices in which we see our brethren plunged, but in the zeal for their intellectual and moral improvement as well as for their material well-being. Catholic doctrine further tells us that love for our neighbor flows from our love for God, Who is Father to all, and goal of the whole human family; and in Jesus Christ whose members we are, to the point that in doing good to others we are doing good to Jesus Christ Himself. Any other kind of love is sheer illusion, sterile and fleeting.
Indeed, we have the human experience of pagan and secular societies of ages past to show that concern for common interests or affinities of nature weigh very little against the passions and wild desires of the heart. No, Venerable Brethren, there is no genuine fraternity outside Christian charity. Through the love of God and His Son Jesus Christ Our Saviour, Christian charity embraces all men, comforts all, and leads all to the same faith and same heavenly happiness....They ceased to call themselves Catholics and, for the formula “Democracy will be Catholic” they substituted “Democracy will not be anti-Catholic”, any more than it will be anti-Jewish or anti-Buddhist. This was the time of “the Greater Sillon”. For the construction of the Future City they appealed to the workers of all religions and all sects. These were asked but one thing: to share the same social ideal, to respect all creeds, and to bring with them a certain supply of moral force. Admittedly: they declared that “The leaders of the Sillon place their religious faith above everything. But can they deny others the right to draw their moral energy from whence they can? In return, they expect others to respect their right to draw their own moral energy from the Catholic Faith. Accordingly they ask all those who want to change today’s society in the direction of Democracy, not to oppose each other on account of the philosophical or religious convictions which may separate them, but to march hand in hand, not renouncing their convictions, but trying to provide on the ground of practical realities, the proof of the excellence of their personal convictions. Perhaps a union will be effected on this ground of emulation between souls holding different religious or philosophical convictions.” And they added at the same time (but how could this be accomplished?) that “the Little Catholic Sillon will be the soul of the Greater Cosmopolitan Sillon.”
Here we have, founded by Catholics, an inter-denominational association that is to work for the reform of civilization, an undertaking which is above all religious in character; for there is no true civilization without a moral civilization, and no true moral civilization without the true religion: it is a proven truth, a historical fact. The new Sillonists cannot pretend that they are merely working on “the ground of practical realities” where differences of belief do not matter. Their leader is so conscious of the influence which the convictions of the mind have upon the result of the action, that he invites them, whatever religion they may belong to, “to provide on the ground of practical realities, the proof of the excellence of their personal convictions.” And with good reason: indeed, all practical results reflect the nature of one’s religious convictions, just as the limbs of a man down to his finger-tips, owe their very shape to the principle of life that dwells in his body.

This being said, what must be thought of the promiscuity in which young Catholics will be caught up with heterodox and unbelieving folk in a work of this nature? Is it not a thousand-fold more dangerous for them than a neutral association? What are we to think of this appeal to all the heterodox, and to all the unbelievers, to prove the excellence of their convictions in the social sphere in a sort of apologetic contest? Has not this contest lasted for nineteen centuries in conditions less dangerous for the faith of Catholics? And was it not all to the credit of the Catholic Church? What are we to think of this respect for all errors, and of this strange invitation made by a Catholic to all the dissidents to strengthen their convictions through study so that they may have more and more abundant sources of fresh forces? What are we to think of an association in which all religions and even Free-Thought may express themselves openly and in complete freedom? For the Sillonists who, in public lectures and elsewhere, proudly proclaim their personal faith, certainly do not intend to silence others nor do they intend to prevent a Protestant from asserting his Protestantism, and the skeptic from affirming his skepticism. Finally, what are we to think of a Catholic who, on entering his study group, leaves his Catholicism outside the door so as not to alarm his comrades who, “dreaming of disinterested social action, are not inclined to make it serve the triumph of interests, coteries and even convictions whatever they may be”? Such is the profession of faith of the New Democratic Committee for Social Action which has taken over the main objective of the previous organization and which, they say, “breaking the double meaning which surround the Greater Sillon both in reactionary and anti-clerical circles”, is now open to all men “who respect moral and religious forces and who are convinced that no genuine social emancipation is possible without the leaven of generous idealism.”...........What are they going to produce? What is to come of this collaboration? A mere verbal and chimerical construction in which we shall see, glowing in a jumble, and in seductive confusion, the words Liberty, Justice, Fraternity, Love, Equality, and human exultation, all resting upon an ill-understood human dignity. It will be a tumultuous agitation, sterile for the end proposed, but which will benefit the less Utopian exploiters of the people. Yes, we can truly say that the Sillon, its eyes fixed on a chimera, brings Socialism in its train.

We fear that worse is to come: the end result of this developing promiscuousness, the beneficiary of this cosmopolitan social action, can only be a Democracy which will be neither Catholic, nor Protestant, nor Jewish. It will be a religion (for Sillonism, so the leaders have said, is a religion) more universal than the Catholic Church, uniting all men become brothers and comrades at last in the “Kingdom of God”. – “We do not work for the Church, we work for mankind.”
And now, overwhelmed with the deepest sadness, We ask Ourselves, Venerable Brethren, what has become of the Catholicism of the Sillon? Alas! this organization which formerly afforded such promising expectations, this limpid and impetuous stream, has been harnessed in its course by the modern enemies of the Church, and is now no more than a miserable affluent of the great movement of apostasy being organized in every country for the establishment of a One-World Church which shall have neither dogmas, nor hierarchy, neither discipline for the mind, nor curb for the passions, and which, under the pretext of freedom and human dignity, would bring back to the world (if such a Church could overcome) the reign of legalized cunning and force, and the oppression of the weak, and of all those who toil and suffer....
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Re: "Abrahamic Family House" ... slipping under the radar
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2019, 11:36:25 AM »
Unless I'm mistaken, there were no churches at all in Saudi Arabia before this. Christians had to be basically anonymous to pray together.

It's not Saudi Arabia. It's the UAE, which tends to have better religious liberty standards than Saudi Arabia.
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Re: "Abrahamic Family House" ... slipping under the radar
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2019, 11:42:17 AM »
This is the model of the "Universalist Religion" all the religions on the same level; this is a continuation of the "Spirit of Assissi" and of Vatican II; and it brings to mind St. Pius X"s Condemnation of "The Sillon" the Catholic Workers' movement of France in "Our Apostolic Mandate":

Yeah... I find the architectural design disturbing, because it's symbolically saying that all three religions are fundamentally the same, with minor external differences (all three are the same height, shape, and design, same color, and are all evenly appart), all sharing "one foundation" (which all three religions do not per Jesus's own words). There's no other interpretation; it's clearly suggesting that. Otherwise, the architecture wouldn't have been chosen to be similar.

It also reminds me of what I read a while back; that the United Nations has a "mediation room" where there is nothing but a black box, and this black box is so that any member of any religion could pray using it, so that it could be whatever anyone wants it to be.

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