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Montini, Galileo, & mathematics
« on: August 09, 2019, 06:40:36 PM »
PDF pp. 108-10 of Thèse de Cassiciacum is a conference by Cardinal Montini in which he mentions mathematics, Plato, Gailleo, and the Italian panpsychist Varisco:
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Ce n'est pas sans raison que Galilée affirme [óu?] qu'en mathématiques (et comment se fait-il qu'aujourd'hui les mathématiques n'y arrivent pas) notre connaissance « égale la connaissance divine dans la certitude objective, car elle parvient à saisir la nécessité», et ainsi « participe à la divinité», du seul fait que l'intelligence humaine comprend la nature des nombres, « je le sais très bien, et je ne serais pas éloigné de porter le même jugement» que Platon à cet égard (cf. Varisco).

[It is not without reason that Galileo affirms [where?] that in mathematics (and how is it that today mathematics cannot do it) our knowledge "equals divine knowledge in objective certainty, because it comes to know necessity", and thus "participates in the divinity", from the sole fact that human intelligence understands the nature of numbers, "I know it very well, and I would not be far from making the same judgment" as Plato in this respect (see Varisco).]
Bp. Des Lauriers's brief refutation says Montini was "radicalement viciée par le rationalisme athée" ("radically vitiated by atheistic rationalism") who confused
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deux « nécessités », à savoir: celle des enchaînements formels qui sont l'objet de la mathématique; celle des principes métaphysiques qui fondent la connaissance de la réalité.

[two "necessities", namely: that of formal links which are the object of mathematics; that of the metaphysical principles which underlie the knowledge of reality.]
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Re: Montini, Galileo, & mathematics
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2019, 11:18:51 AM »
Mathematics works in our physical world, but unfortunately it works too in the spiritual to some degree: "equals divine knowledge in objective certainty, because it comes to know necessity", and thus "participates in the divinity".

If divinity is bound by necessity, then we have a gigantic problem, because then divinity can't do anything it wants any time it wants anywhere it wants.  That way we ourselves play god on our own head, and destroy ourselves into eternal suffering.  By NOT equaling divine knowledge, can we get around objective certainty and receive salvation.