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Offline Lucy_Helene

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Greetings in Christ
« on: July 08, 2019, 10:00:48 PM »
Greetings everyone, I'm new to the forum here.

I don't know what I should say about myself, so I guess I'll answer some questions from the form...

What brings you to SD?

A desire to have genuine Catholic discussion, which is difficult to find elsewhere, brought me here. Most Catholic forums, such as Catholic Answers Forum (where I was banned for citing St. Thomas Aquinas), are ruled by modernists, and leave virtually no room to connect with other traditionalists (who are likewise banned swiftly!).

Are you a member of other Internet fora?

Yes, I'm Lucy_Helene on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Lucy_Helene/

What is your state of life - single, married, religious, or still discerning?

I'm currently single, but discerning religious life or becoming a member of a Third Order.

Have any hobbies?

My hobbies include writing sacred music and studying Thomistic philosophy and canon law.

Favorite books?

I have to go with the Summa on this one!

Pet peeves:

Heresy. Need I say more?

In all, thanks for letting me join! I look forward to having a great time here.

Lucy
 
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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 10:18:05 PM »
I知 [deleted] on Reddit (I deleted my account there).

Some really solid writing there in only 3 days.

I look forward to the comments you値l have here!

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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 10:31:46 PM »
I知 [deleted] on Reddit (I deleted my account there).

Some really solid writing there in only 3 days.

I look forward to the comments you値l have here!

Thanks! I'm currently being downvoted through the ground in r/Catholicism. I think I'm at -1 karma or something there. I suppose it's good if I'm annoying the modernists!
 
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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2019, 10:38:40 AM »
 :toth:
"It's so lonely 'round the fields of Athenry"
 

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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2019, 02:03:28 PM »
I知 [deleted] on Reddit (I deleted my account there).

Some really solid writing there in only 3 days.

I look forward to the comments you値l have here!

Thanks! I'm currently being downvoted through the ground in r/Catholicism. I think I'm at -1 karma or something there. I suppose it's good if I'm annoying the modernists!

Are you also in r/TraditionalCatholics? It's relatively better than r/Catholicism.

Welcome to SD!
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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2019, 10:46:32 PM »

Are you also in r/TraditionalCatholics? It's relatively better than r/Catholicism.



I joined r/TraditionalCatholics a few days ago, but I haven't posted anything there yet. I really do hope it's better there. In r/Catholicism I'm at -5 karma now.
 
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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 10:43:39 AM »
Welcome, Sister. I just glanced through your comments on Reddit, and Wow, you are heroic in the way you defend SSPX Priests from the grotesquely false and uncharitable accusation of being "schismatic".  I think you'll find a much more comfortable, pleasant and welcoming environment favouring the SSPX and all Catholic Tradition here.

So thanks on their behalf, from someone scheduled to enter SSPX Seminary in just a little while.

Wonderful to know you're currently discerning Religious Life or considering a Third Order, Lucy. Hope you like the article below as you continue to discern. http://archives.sspx.org/chapel_news/2012/sspx_sisters_10-2012/sspx_sisters_10-2012.htm

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A simple effective way for thousands of us to save millions of souls. Please also offer the Precious Blood of Jesus' Heart to the Eternal Father, and our Lives in Sacrifice in Union with It, and with Mary's Immaculate Heart, that Jerusalem may be saved, Judah be restored, and the Jews may at long last happily be returned to saving Faith in Jesus Christ.
 

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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2019, 12:22:42 PM »
Welcome, Sister. I just glanced through your comments on Reddit, and Wow, you are heroic in the way you defend SSPX Priests from the grotesquely false and uncharitable accusation of being "schismatic".  I think you'll find a much more comfortable, pleasant and welcoming environment favouring the SSPX and all Catholic Tradition here.

I certainly hope so! I need to spend some time with fellow traditionalists after dealing with the nonsense that populates so many so-called "Catholic" internet forums in these trying times. It won't be long before I'm banned at r/Catholicism. The problem with the debates is that I'm never sure of which approach to take. I could take the debate to its final conclusion and demolish all the modernist arguments thoroughly, or I could try to avoid allowing the discussion from becoming too heated, to avoid perpetuating the stereotype of the "stubborn trad".

So thanks on their behalf, from someone scheduled to enter SSPX Seminary in a while.

You're welcome. And how exciting!

Wonderful to know you're currently discerning Religious Life or considering a Third Order, Lucy. Hope you like the article below as you continue to discern. http://archives.sspx.org/chapel_news/2012/sspx_sisters_10-2012/sspx_sisters_10-2012.htm

That was an interesting read, and the religious life certainly appeals to me. Though the idea of having a large traditional Catholic family with twenty children still appeals to me as well!
 
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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 12:39:50 PM »
Welcome to the forum; I hope you stick around and contribute to the discussions here.
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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 11:55:05 PM »
Greetings!

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The problem with the debates is that I'm never sure of which approach to take. I could take the debate to its final conclusion and demolish all the modernist arguments thoroughly, or I could try to avoid allowing the discussion from becoming too heated, to avoid perpetuating the stereotype of the "stubborn trad".

If the discussion becomes a debate then your target for persuasion is not your fellow debater but the audience.  An audience only appreciates a whipping if they already agree with the one doing the whipping.  If however they are either on the fence or on the other side, it disgusts the audience.  As such it seems a whipping is only appropriate when you are preaching to the choir against the lone heretic in the room.  Given that that is rarely if ever the case these days, I recommend always remaining amiable. 

Anyone can use logic to make a convincing argument of whatever it is they want to believe.  Logic will not get people out of the bad beliefs they have fallen into.  Logical arguments do not compel anyone to change their beliefs unless they are already willing to change.  What will (slowly) guide out the stubborn are charity, prayer and virtuous role models whom exude the peace of the Lord.  This does not mean a debate has no place, for it does, it just is to indicate that the "winner" of the debate is not interpreted as such by his syllogisms, but rather by his presence.  In a live debate this would include things such as competency of the material, peaceful voice & bodily movements, respectable attire, and remembering always to love your enemy (in this case, those whom disagree with the Church's teachings).  In an internet debate this requires constant pruning of text to exclude the put-downs, slam-downs, niggling attacks and the such that we are so oft to do through anonymous text.

Most people are attracted by the positive - something that will visibly be better for them here and now.  Generally people are not persuaded at all by statements made by anyone not alive during their lives (or the generation above as they will grow up listening to that generation talk about that person).  And so citing St. Whoever often has little affect.  But what can be persuasive is offering, what in your life you have deemed to be, a better way to do something.  So for example, imagine the "debate" is about communion in the hand.  One can drag out every saint till the cows come home, but it will not matter much, for the average Catholic is happy with accepting that "the modern world is different."  But presumably this Catholic wishes to honor the Lord, so you can simply state that you find kneeling before the Lord while receiving the Blessed Sacrament to be a great way to improve your personal devotion to Christ and that you feel spiritual connection to your forefathers whom did as well, and continue to do so in Heaven in the presence of the King of kings.  And then move on to something else positive or simply wish the person a blessed day.  (and do not make any niggling last remarks passively suggesting in any way that their communion-in-the-hand is bad, for then all was lost as the defensive walls shoot up)

Will that person kneel next Sunday?  No, but that seed planted might bear good fruit in a few years, especially if several other seeds are planted by others along the way.  But I guarantee that person will not kneel because he was beat into it by a debate.

Anyways, I am off topic.  Welcome to SD.

Davis
 

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Re: Greetings in Christ
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 12:29:16 AM »
Once upon a time, I actively posted at /r/Catholicism.  Then, I got bored and found better ways to fritter time away.

I hope this place is edifying, though.

I need to get off my patoot and .... kick activity into gear.  Alas.
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