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Offline TheReturnofLive

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Re: The doctrinal development of clandestine marriage
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2019, 09:33:55 PM »
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Christ elevated marriage to a sacrament,

Only marriages of baptised Christians. This is not up for debate. It is impossible for the unbaptised to receive any of the other sacraments.

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but if there is really a drastically different valid "us"(catholics) and "them"(non catholics) for marriage, then why is it different with the Eucharist? 

There is a drastic difference: it's called being members of the Church and our marriages being a sacrament.

Don't you believe that the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox have all of the valid but illicit Sacraments, including Baptism, Chrismation, the Eucharist, Holy Orders, Unction, Confession, and....marriage by virtue of valid but illicit Apostolic Succession?

And don't even Protestants confer the Sacrament of Baptism, as long as there is a Trinitarian theology present and people Baptize "In the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" using water?
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Offline Kreuzritter

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Re: The doctrinal development of clandestine marriage
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2019, 07:32:10 AM »
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Christ elevated marriage to a sacrament,

Only marriages of baptised Christians. This is not up for debate. It is impossible for the unbaptised to receive any of the other sacraments.

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but if there is really a drastically different valid "us"(catholics) and "them"(non catholics) for marriage, then why is it different with the Eucharist? 

There is a drastic difference: it's called being members of the Church and our marriages being a sacrament.

Don't you believe that the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox have all of the valid but illicit Sacraments, including Baptism, Chrismation, the Eucharist, Holy Orders, Unction, Confession, and....marriage by virtue of valid but illicit Apostolic Succession?

And don't even Protestants confer the Sacrament of Baptism, as long as there is a Trinitarian theology present and people Baptize "In the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" using water?

Yes?