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Posture while praying
« on: February 13, 2019, 10:24:39 PM »
I can kneel, but sometimes getting up is a tortuous experience. My left knee "locks" up. Some days are better than others whilst ambulating, but I have forgone kneeling at home for an entire Rosary. Prior to Sunday Mass i can get through two decades, but then have to sit.
Question: do I lose efficacy in prayer by not kneeling? I whimp out in fear of enduring the aforementioned pain, even on days that aren't so painful.
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2019, 11:01:39 PM »
Why not stand while praying, or alternate between kneeling and standing?  This was the practice before pews were introduced.

Is standing while praying less efficacious than kneeling?  I've no idea, but being in pain seems like quite a distraction from prayer.  Meanwhile, standing is a respectful posture, more so that sitting.
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2019, 11:24:24 PM »
You can only do what you can do. And sometimes, if you can do it, maybe shouldn’t so you aren’t crippled for days afterward.

We gain more by kneeling minds than we lose by sitting knees.
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2019, 11:29:13 PM »
I usually kneel, but sometimes I stand.  They both work.  And, it may be the case that I need both. 
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2019, 11:31:42 PM »
Kneeling is very good if it is possible, it is an external sign of reverence, and helps us have an attitude of loving surrender toward God, our Father and King, or Mary, our Mother and Queen; but if infirmity or other difficulty prevents us, we can say it sitting down or even in some other posture, with reverence internally. This is what St. Montfort recommends: "I WOULD like to add that the Rosary ought to be said reverently----that is to say it ought to be said, as far as possible, kneeling, with the hands joined and clasping the Rosary. However, if people are ill they can of course say it in bed or if they are traveling it can be said on foot----and if infirmity prevents people kneeling it can be said seated or standing." http://www.catholictradition.org/Classics/secret-rosary45.htm

Another great position imo to take before God in prayer is prostration on the ground, as is common in the East, at least, for e.g., at every Glory Be. "We see this prostration, kneeling and adoring over and over again.  Before Jesus ascends into heaven in Matthew 28 the apostles fall in adoration before him.  The Magi prostrate before the baby King Jesus. The Samaritan who was healed from leprosy prostrates before Jesus in gratitude and recognizing that only Jesus being God could have healed him.  St. Paul shows us how to pray in Acts of the Apostles 20:36 “And when he had said these things, he knelt on his knees and he prayed,”.   This is when St. Paul is leaving his beloved disciples." http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest.com/2013/06/16/traditional-kneeling-and-prostrating-before-jesus/

Anyway, the most important thing is to have reverence in our hearts for God. Offer to our Blessed Mother, Heinrich, your desire to kneel before Her if it were possible. Then pray as best you can. God does not ask the impossible, but praying on our knees has its special reward: "Our Lady also said to Blessed Alan: "I want you to know that, although there are numerous indulgences already attached to the recitation of my Rosary, I shall add many more to every fifty Hail Marys (each group of five decades) for those who say them devoutly, on their knees----being, of course, free from mortal sin. And whosoever shall persevere in the devotion of the Holy Rosary, saying these prayers and meditations, shall be rewarded for it; I shall obtain for him full remission of the penalty and of the guilt of all his sins at the end of his life. Do not be unbelieving, as though this is impossible. It is easy for me to do because I am the Mother of the King of Heaven, and He calls me full of grace. And, being full of grace, I am able to dispense grace freely to my dear children." (28th rose)
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 06:18:54 AM »
Question: do I lose efficacy in prayer by not kneeling?

No. Pray while laying down, sitting, standing, walking and doing chores if you can, but pray brother pray! Kneeling is adding penance to prayer and is of course a very good thing to do, but kneeling does not necessarily add to the prayer's efficacy. In fact in your case, it sounds as if you may well lose efficacy in prayer while kneeling -  if your pain is such that it is a distraction.   
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 07:53:51 AM »
I'm in the same situation, my left knee too, and so I do not kneel when praying the rosary, even at church, although, once again like you, I may be able to get 2 decades done on my knees at church.
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 11:51:27 AM »
Due to my own illness I usually pray lying face down or on my back. I think the most important thing is your intention, devotion and willingness. Of course if you can kneel it is even better but there is no set of rules for this particular matter.
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2019, 07:19:09 PM »
Lower the weight and up the reps.
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2019, 07:32:13 PM »
I've got bursitis in both my knees, so I can't kneel for very long in either one. I just hope I don't get it in my behind from sitting so much during my prayers.  :laugh:
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2019, 12:41:14 PM »
The whole video is good but for this thread, just listen from about 6:30 then for only about one minute. I think it should start at 6:30 if I did it right.
 
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Re: Posture while praying
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Re: Posture while praying
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2019, 09:55:12 PM »
Lower the weight and up the reps.

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