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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2019, 05:09:32 PM »
The crazy thing is that this is patently contra the teaching of Islam at large, too.

There are liberals on both sides of the aisle.

It has infected every field of knowledge and every religion.
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2019, 06:28:15 PM »
How is this any different than saying God uses false religions as "means of salvation" in Vat II?

Same heresy, different guy. All a bunch of psychopaths destroying the faith of millions.

When they finally run out of money is the only hope we have for restoration barring a miracle. No heretic will work for free, they're all parasites.

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2019, 10:34:42 PM »
Maybe he is a Calvinist.
 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2019, 05:51:10 PM »
The crazy thing is that this is patently contra the teaching of Islam at large, too.

Yes.

There is, however, Sufism though - which has a weird status as mysticism in Islam.

From what I was taught in my Asian Philosophy course, Sufism rejects the idea that there is only one true Faith - and that because God is incomprehensible in His entirety, no religion - not even Islam - is completely correct or can be completely correct. They do believe that Islam comes closest to being correct, though.

Although I wonder how they wrestle with the fact that the Islamic Holy Texts say that believers in the Trinity are blasphemers who are going to burn in Hell for their blasphemy.
 

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2019, 11:55:51 AM »
This reeks to high heaven. What is shocking is we do not see a mass response from anyone in the hierarchy, or even regular clergymen. I have only seen any waves in trad circles, which is severely disappointing...

It would have been better had the man claimed it were ok to procure an abortion, or to engage in sodomy, or adultery, rather than this outrageous claim against Faith.

Perhaps I should know better. After spending three years in Sedevacantism ™, what they were essentially saying was correct.

Nearly 700 years ago, when Pope John XXII postulated heresy privately, the entire Orbis Terrarum was up in arms. Cardinals publicly rebuked him, and even Philip the Fortunate, King of France, forbade the heterodox teaching in his kingdom. All of this over "merely" the beatific vision of the just after death.

Now, although I don't even envision myself becoming encamped with a group that formally postulates Sedevacantism ™, and all that entails (these sacraments are invalid, only go to these groups for Mass, this sacramental line is sullied, etc.) I do find myself wondering how this man can be seen as pope.
 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2019, 03:07:40 PM »
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2019, 10:39:03 AM »
How is this any different than saying God uses false religions as "means of salvation" in Vat II?

Same heresy, different guy. All a bunch of psychopaths destroying the faith of millions.

When they finally run out of money is the only hope we have for restoration barring a miracle. No heretic will work for free, they're all parasites.

It is entirely different and new, as we have been saying here.
The V2 document you're thinking of is Unitadis Redintegratio. It's about Christian ecumenism.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html
The document is referred to in Catechism 818,819
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

 

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019, 10:52:16 AM »
Calvin's God who wills everything melded with the masonic plurality "god" .  This man is the epitome of all V-II heresy with Rahner, de Lubec, et. al. stirred in for good measure!  I do not see a way out of this save Our Lady's vision to Akita and Quito. I hope it comes soon!
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2019, 01:01:33 PM »
The crazy thing is that this is patently contra the teaching of Islam at large, too.

A Moslem is permitted to lie and deceive the kuffar, even pretendedly contradict the Quran if it aids the cause, particularly gaining the trust of unbelievers. For instance the Moorish invaders of Visigothic Spain concluded dishonest pacts with various factions in the disintegrating kingdom. Oftentimes, Islam lacking a central authority is nothing more than a ruler's will buttressed by the words of courtly scholars.

Cardinal Mueller's Manifesto of Faith is better than nothing, and in its content is an effort to state Catholic teaching using mainly conservative Conciliar sources like the 1983 Cathechism. I honestly think that a good many are waiting out mad Frank. Perhaps he will resign after six years, which is the present custom for a Jesuit Superior, but likely he'd only resign if he find someone better able than him to promote the 'fraud of antiChrist.' It is a genuinely strong piece of writing.

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Fr Z reviews and compares his words with those of Dr John T. Lamont, who cannot put a Christian meaning to the words of Francis.

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2019, 01:35:23 PM »

How conservatives try to square Francis statements with the Catholic faith


 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2019, 02:11:14 PM »
Actually the final nail in the Francis "papacy".

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2019, 02:19:51 PM »

How conservatives try to square Francis statements with the Catholic faith




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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2019, 06:29:34 PM »
Here is how I will try to defend pope Francis regarding his "plurality of religions is God's will with which he willed mankind" statement.  People stumble with a permissive will response as a result of the "willed mankind" part.  Because, they think of how God actively willed mankind when he created us.  But, there is another argument.  Perhaps Francis is referring to how God permissively wills mankind after the deluge by promising not to flood the earthy in an act of destruction.  Such willing of mankind is not an example of active will, but permissive will. 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2019, 11:43:33 PM »
The crazy thing is that this is patently contra the teaching of Islam at large, too.

A Moslem is permitted to lie and deceive the kuffar, even pretendedly contradict the Quran if it aids the cause, particularly gaining the trust of unbelievers. For instance the Moorish invaders of Visigothic Spain concluded dishonest pacts with various factions in the disintegrating kingdom. Oftentimes, Islam lacking a central authority is nothing more than a ruler's will buttressed by the words of courtly scholars.

Cardinal Mueller's Manifesto of Faith is better than nothing, and in its content is an effort to state Catholic teaching using mainly conservative Conciliar sources like the 1983 Cathechism. I honestly think that a good many are waiting out mad Frank. Perhaps he will resign after six years, which is the present custom for a Jesuit Superior, but likely he'd only resign if he find someone better able than him to promote the 'fraud of antiChrist.' It is a genuinely strong piece of writing.

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Fr Z reviews and compares his words with those of Dr John T. Lamont, who cannot put a Christian meaning to the words of Francis.

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2019, 09:51:07 AM »
Phillip,
It would be a better idea to pray for the conversion of Francis, than to try to justify his heretical statements. Cardinal Muller has done a great service to the faith and at the same time to Francis himself by issuing his doctrinal manifesto in which the various errors that the Pope has broadcast are corrected by the clear teaching of the Catholic Church. How many people now living in sin think that their relationship is perfectly moral, thanks to Francis? How many Catholics and non now think that " each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action." If God wills the different religions, then each member of that religion is doing God's will by practicing their false religion; as it is their right to do;  so speaketh Francis.
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