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Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« on: February 06, 2019, 09:18:24 AM »

The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings.


Document co-signed by Francis and the "Grand Imam of Al-Azhar" Ahmad Al-Tayyeb
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2019/02/no-francis-god-did-not-will-plurality.html

This contradicts not only Catholicism and Orthodoxy but any Christianity. It contradicts history and the Bible,
and even basic Monotheism.

Now today he's digging up stories about priests abusing nuns - and the media is making the most of it.

All by design. Half of Catholics under 30 have left the Church.

Bergoglio the Wrecking Ball strikes again.
 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2019, 01:37:33 PM »
That's not lifting a veil, it's shouting from the rooftops: "Jesus Christ lied!". Damned apostate, leading souls into Hell. In the Arab tradition of insults, screw this son of a thousand syphilitic whores.

The visible head of the Catholic Church doing this? Stop insulting my intelligence. Jorge Bergoglio is not pope or Roman Catholicism, as it stands, is a false religion. Case closed. I don't know right now if I can walk into an una cum mass again so long as  it's his name being mentioned.
 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2019, 01:41:32 PM »
KR - why’s that, exactly?
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2019, 01:41:56 PM »
This contradicts not only Catholicism and Orthodoxy but any Christianity. It contradicts history and the Bible,
and even basic Monotheism.

Truth. Undeniable truth. And the only reason they just didn't fit "sexual orientation" in there because of the Religion of Peace being a co-signatory.
 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2019, 01:42:20 PM »
KR - why’s that, exactly?

What part of it?
 

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2019, 02:41:55 PM »
Santantonio,
I have to agree with Kreuz, what he said can hardly be described as "lifting the veil"; if that is lifting the veil, then even Greg would be very hard pressed to describe what would constitute "upping the ante" on this one.
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2019, 02:43:14 PM »
"And what use are the victories on the battlefield if we are ourselves are defeated in our innermost personal selves?" - St. Maximilian Kolbe
 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2019, 03:29:24 PM »
KR - why’s that, exactly?

What part of it?

The una cum issue.

Because scandal. And hypocrisy. And it really rubs me the wrong way. Going there is to present myself as someone who regards as the representative of Christ on Earth the man who just signed a document saying God wills the plurality of religions.
 

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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2019, 03:40:26 PM »
Here's the link to the whole document, for the sake of accuracy:

http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/travels/2019/outside/documents/papa-francesco_20190204_documento-fratellanza-umana.html

It's a simple diplomatic document. The context of the passage reads: "Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept."

This is perfectly in line with the magisterial teaching of Dignitatis Humanae, as far as I can see. Its underlying assumptions came into plain sight after Vatican II, being consistently developped by the magisterium of the Popes since Paul VI. Francis is just following in their footsteps.
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2019, 03:51:27 PM »
Here's the link to the whole document, for the sake of accuracy:

http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/travels/2019/outside/documents/papa-francesco_20190204_documento-fratellanza-umana.html

It's a simple diplomatic document. The context of the passage reads: "Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept."

This is perfectly in line with the magisterial teaching of Dignitatis Humanae, as far as I can see. Its underlying assumptions came into plain sight after Vatican II, being consistently developped by the magisterium of the Popes since Paul VI. Francis is just following in their footsteps.

"The pluralism and the diversity of religions ...  are willed by God in His wisdom" is erroneous, heretical and blasphemous, regardless of context.



 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2019, 03:56:04 PM »
Father Z writes about this. Is it Gods permissive will or positive? If the former, then nothing to worry, everything is fine in Catholic land.
 
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2019, 04:06:49 PM »
Father Z writes about this. Is it Gods permissive will or positive? If the former, then nothing to worry, everything is fine in Catholic land.

Saw that one coming a mile off.



"Religion" is grouped with colour, sex, race and language: the first three are born out of God's positive will in creation, sex in the creation of man and woman as such and colours and races at least in potency, both in themselves and in the genome; the last, according to the story of Babel, was also caused by his positive will.  But it comes as now suprise that the Neocatholic sophists would jump on that word will, rip it out of all context, and pretend it means something other than what is obviously was intended to.


How about The pluralism and the diversity of perversions, adulteries, sins, religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings.

Does that sound natural to anyone?
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2019, 07:53:51 PM »
Here's the link to the whole document, for the sake of accuracy:

http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/travels/2019/outside/documents/papa-francesco_20190204_documento-fratellanza-umana.html

It's a simple diplomatic document. The context of the passage reads: "Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept."

This is perfectly in line with the magisterial teaching of Dignitatis Humanae, as far as I can see. Its underlying assumptions came into plain sight after Vatican II, being consistently developped by the magisterium of the Popes since Paul VI. Francis is just following in their footsteps.

"The pluralism and the diversity of religions ...  are willed by God in His wisdom" is erroneous, heretical and blasphemous, regardless of context.

I don't necessarily disagree. The document groups God willing different religions with the existence of different colours, sexes, races and languages, as you have already pointed out. It's problematic since it clearly implies that God approves and delights in evil.

In any case, this latest pontifical musing runs in the same vein as Dignitatis Humanae and all its later developments.
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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2019, 02:03:46 PM »
In any case, this latest pontifical musing runs in the same vein as Dignitatis Humanae and all its later developments.

No, it breaks new ground.
Dignitatis Humanae: http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651207_dignitatis-humanae_en.html
does not contradict Scripture. This does. It is Freemasonry defined.
"The pluralism and the diversity of religions"..."is willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings."
"the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept."..."must be rejected"...


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Re: Francis is lifting the veil to his anti-Christ nature
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2019, 04:57:17 PM »
The crazy thing is that this is patently contra the teaching of Islam at large, too.
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