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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2019, 03:10:27 AM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.
 
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2019, 04:12:02 PM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

It's not a sin.

It's just a form of theatrical make-up.
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2019, 05:45:56 PM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

I agree but that doesn't answer the question. It seems low class certainly but strange to call it sinful. Where is the line between comedy and outrage drawn?
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2019, 09:49:00 PM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

It's not a sin.

It's just a form of theatrical make-up.

As are these Soviet posters of Jesus.








They are just cartoons, man!
 

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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 11:01:24 PM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

It's not a sin.

It's just a form of theatrical make-up.

As are these Soviet posters of Jesus.

(...)

They are just cartoons, man!

False equivalence.

Nice try, though. I'm sure you've got some brownie points, white knight.
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2019, 11:40:14 PM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

I agree but that doesn't answer the question. It seems low class certainly but strange to call it sinful. Where is the line between comedy and outrage drawn?

I wouldnt say that ”blackface” is a sin in itself, but somethings should be avoided. And if we dont then we fail in charity. Thinking of St Paul when he said that we shouldnt eat meat if it offends our neighbour. And black people get offended by these theatrical shows.
 

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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 11:54:07 PM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

It's not a sin.

It's just a form of theatrical make-up.

As are these Soviet posters of Jesus.

(...)

They are just cartoons, man!

False equivalence.

Nice try, though. I'm sure you've got some brownie points, white knight.

How are they a false equivalence? They are both just art forms.

And I don't care if I'm a white knight or not.
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2019, 11:50:16 AM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

It's not a sin.

It's just a form of theatrical make-up.

As are these Soviet posters of Jesus.

(...)

They are just cartoons, man!

False equivalence.

Nice try, though. I'm sure you've got some brownie points, white knight.

How are they a false equivalence? They are both just art forms.

And I don't care if I'm a white knight or not.

Live, step back for a moment and think about what you're saying. You're equating an actual mockery of Our Lord, a blasphemy in and of itself, with a simple technique used to represent black people on stage when black actors were scarce or unheard of. Even if the blackface would necessarily be a mockery of blacks, something I deny, it still would not be ipso facto a sin, much less blasphemy. Mockery of group traits and racial stereotypes is part of a long tradition of humor that stretches back thousands of years.

The fact that you even try to make this equivalence is disturbing and proof of how deep the racist narrative of Social Marxism runs in current Western society.
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2019, 05:58:00 PM »
Is blackface a sin?

If people get offended by it then one shouldn’t do it.

It's not a sin.

It's just a form of theatrical make-up.

As are these Soviet posters of Jesus.

(...)

They are just cartoons, man!

False equivalence.

Nice try, though. I'm sure you've got some brownie points, white knight.

How are they a false equivalence? They are both just art forms.

And I don't care if I'm a white knight or not.

Live, step back for a moment and think about what you're saying. You're equating an actual mockery of Our Lord, a blasphemy in and of itself, with a simple technique used to represent black people on stage when black actors were scarce or unheard of.

Do you honestly believe it was a "simple technique" used to represent "black people" on stage?

"O ole Zip Coon he is a larn-ED skoh-ler, (3x)
Sings posum up a gum tree an coony in a holler,
possum up a gum tree, coony on a stump, (3x)
Den over dubble trubble, Zip Coon will jump."

These lyrics are just "representing black people" and not at all ridiculing them?

Just answer my question.
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2019, 06:22:11 PM »
Just answer my question.

It has already been answered, in case you had paid any attention.

Even if the blackface would necessarily be a mockery of blacks, something I deny, it still would not be ipso facto a sin, much less blasphemy. Mockery of group traits and racial stereotypes is part of a long tradition of humor that stretches back thousands of years.

The fact that you even try to make this equivalence is disturbing and proof of how deep the racist narrative of Social Marxism runs in current Western society.
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2019, 06:42:10 PM »
Just answer my question.

It has already been answered, in case you had paid any attention.

Even if the blackface would necessarily be a mockery of blacks, something I deny, it still would not be ipso facto a sin, much less blasphemy. Mockery of group traits and racial stereotypes is part of a long tradition of humor that stretches back thousands of years.

The fact that you even try to make this equivalence is disturbing and proof of how deep the racist narrative of Social Marxism runs in current Western society.

Okay.

So then, what do you think of the fact that every single human being is made in the Image of God, and therefore is an Icon of Christ? Do you believe that some people aren't images of Christ?

And Christ makes this explicitly clear in the Gospel:

"But when the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit down upon his throne of glory,
and all the nations shall be gathered before him; and he shall separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats;
and he will set the sheep on his right hand, and the goats on [his] left.
Then shall the King say to those on his right hand, Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from [the] world's foundation:
for I hungered, and ye gave me to eat; I thirsted, and ye gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and ye took me in;
naked, and ye clothed me; I was ill, and ye visited me; I was in prison, and ye came to me.
Then shall the righteous answer him saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungering, and nourished thee; or thirsting, and gave thee to drink?
and when saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in; or naked, and clothed thee?
and when saw we thee ill, or in prison, and came to thee?
And the King answering shall say to them, Verily, I say to you, Inasmuch as ye have done it to one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it to me.
Then shall he say also to those on the left, Go from me, cursed, into eternal fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
For I hungered, and ye gave me not to eat; I thirsted, and ye gave me not to drink;
I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye did not clothe me; ill, and in prison, and ye did not visit me.
Then shall *they* also answer saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungering, or thirsting, or a stranger, or naked, or ill, or in prison, and have not ministered to thee?
Then shall he answer them saying, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye have not done it to one of these least, neither have ye done it to me.
And these shall go away into eternal punishment, and the righteous into life eternal."
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Re: Virginia Abortion Bill
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2019, 06:59:39 PM »
Live, if you wish to discuss the morality of blackface, please start another thread.
 
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