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Offline Daniel

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Cannibalism etc.
« on: January 09, 2019, 10:25:55 AM »
Is there anything wrong with us eating the bodies of already-dead humans, and/or using those bodies for scientific research and other purposes (assuming such use doesn't cause scandal while doing so)?

Does the Church have any sort of official teaching on this?
 

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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 11:17:50 AM »
Yes there is something wrong with eating bodies, the meat isn't tender.

9 out of 10 cannibals prefer vegetarians

What did the cannibal clown say after his meal? "That tasted funny."


OK MORE SERIOUSLY...
Yes it's absolutely forbidden to eat other people, even dead. The Church has condemned it. Research on dead bodies I don't think they have, but cannibalism is a definite no-no.
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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 09:20:06 PM »
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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 09:58:53 PM »
Welcome to the modern world, where rationality rules and the natural law written on the hearts of man is nearly inaudible.  Everything must be questioned, it seems.

But maybe this is leading up to question the Real Presence.
 
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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 02:07:51 AM »
Here two priests (1972) defend the cannibalism in the Chilean air crash:  https://www.nytimes.com/1972/12/28/archives/two-catholic-aides-defend-cannibalism-in-chilean-air-crash.html

Here's the (very interesting) story of the "Donner Party" (pioneers in 1847) who may also have committed cannibalism as a last gruesome way to avoid starvation, when all other conceivable means had been tried: https://www.history.com/news/did-the-donner-party-really-resort-to-cannibalism

The natural law says we may not kill innocent humans.  It also says that we should respect dead human bodies, and gives us a strong natural revulsion to the mere idea of cannibalism. But it also gives us the strong natural instinct to preserve ourselves, to the point that killing another is acceptable for self-defense. I would think that it is worse to kill a innocent man than to eat a dead body (dead by no fault of our own) under extremely unusual circumstances (e.g. to keep ourselves or our family alive, when all other means have been tried).  It is right that we are revolted by the idea. But I'm not ready to condemn  people who are starving and truly desperate in such a case.  I don't know.  (If the Church has spoken about this, of course I would take that view). For myself, now, I think "no, never".  I think that is the right impulse. But I'm reluctant to condemn.

Is there anything wrong with...using those bodies for scientific research and other purposes (assuming such use doesn't cause scandal while doing so)?

Does the Church have any sort of official teaching on this?

See this article regarding Catholics donating their body to science:

http:/www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/zdonbody.htm
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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 03:09:25 AM »
A council in the early middle ages forbade surgery on human bodies.

Re: the situation where you have to eat human flest or starve to death - For me its very simple: starve to death
 
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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 05:57:09 AM »
Just don't eat comedians. They taste funny.
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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2019, 12:53:35 AM »
Just don't eat comedians. They taste funny.

I'd rather watch a comedian cannibal taste his favorite meal than eat him myself. He tastes funny just like he does everything else funny.  I don't need a funny taste in MY mouth.

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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2019, 01:05:13 AM »
Exactly

My first thought when I saw the title of the thread.
Welcome to the modern world, where rationality rules and the natural law written on the hearts of man is nearly inaudible.  Everything must be questioned, it seems.

But maybe this is leading up to question the Real Presence.

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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2019, 06:50:17 AM »
Welcome to the modern world, where rationality rules and the natural law written on the hearts of man is nearly inaudible.  Everything must be questioned, it seems.

But maybe this is leading up to question the Real Presence.

Also this.

But itís not just simply modern. The West had already set the trend with Scholastic philosophy in assuming everything in creation is a product of and amenable to being grasped and deconstructed by reason. Itís an insanity, but Iím not laying the blame on them or any historical movement, because I see the source in an internal vital disposition that only worsens as time goes by, not an external influence.
 
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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2019, 12:27:19 PM »
Welcome to the modern world, where rationality rules and the natural law written on the hearts of man is nearly inaudible.  Everything must be questioned, it seems.

But maybe this is leading up to question the Real Presence.

Also this.

But itís not just simply modern. The West had already set the trend with Scholastic philosophy in assuming everything in creation is a product of and amenable to being grasped and deconstructed by reason. Itís an insanity, but Iím not laying the blame on them or any historical movement, because I see the source in an internal vital disposition that only worsens as time goes by, not an external influence.

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Re: Cannibalism etc.
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2019, 01:28:37 PM »
Well, I hear you can make pemmican from your own poop, mucus, hair, and toenails.  That should extend your life a week or two.  Crushing up some pine needles into it should make it more tasty.   :pregnant:
 
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