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The laughable stupidity of people who don't believe in Creation being put on display.

Just imagine the derision that would result if a theory this preposterous was proposed by some "flat-earther." Yet here are supposedly reputable scientists proposing this nonsense as the best they can come up with to explain the existence of planets like ours.

Just think for one second whether any of this:
a. Makes sense
b. Seems plausible
c. Is scientifically proven?

If this is the best they can come up, then this shows that "scientists" haven't the slightest clue how planets form. Which means that they have absolutely no idea how not just life, but even the substrate for life, came into existence.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6467167/Earth-formed-chunks-rock-blown-early-years-solar-system.html

The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together to form the planet and others in our solar system
 - Jupiter's huge gravity and the solar wind acted as a 'one-two punch'
 - The forced debris close to the sun towards the developing planets
 - This added mass to Mercury, Venus and Earth and cleared away the space debris


Earth may have been created when rocks close to the sun were forced together by the solar wind and Jupiter wandering through the primitive solar system. 

Space dust is common around most stars but our solar system is suspiciously missing of debris close to the sun.

Astronomers now think it was forced together and created Mercury, Venus and Earth.

A Yale researcher says the combination of Jupiter's huge gravity sweeping up space dust and the solar wind blowing the rocks away acted as a 'one-two punch'.   

Christopher Spalding at Yale University simulated the early period of the solar system and assumed the star's solar wind was more intense than it is currently because of the sun being more active and spinning faster.

Particles are ejected out of the sun at a phenomenal rate (almost 40 million billion kilograms of material a year) and this is what is known as the solar wind.

He claims that rocks of 100 metres or smaller in diameter would have been forced away from the sun and aggregated with the developing planets.

It is already believe that the dust in the early solar system was fine and smaller than that of a planet as Jupiter is believed to have migrated through the solar system.

The passing of the gas giant and its significant gravity had a huge impact on the arrangement of rocks.

'It's this one-two punch of Jupiter coming in and the solar wind finishing the job,' says Dr Spalding.

The theory has the potential to explain some anomalies on the interior of planet Earth which require being subjected to huge temperatures far hotter than is possible.

'This may have been material that was once closer in than Mercury and was getting blasted by the sun's heat,' Dr Spalding told New Scientist.

'It still records this history of being hot even though it's in a colder place today.'
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2018, 11:07:16 AM »
There ya have it, folks.  Scientists don't know everything.  Therefore, they know nothing.
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 12:48:18 PM »

Scientists don't know everything.  Therefore, they know nothing.

Scientists pretend to know everything, therefore they know nothing.

Their pretense makes them incapable of distinguishing between true and false.
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 06:36:04 PM »
Hey, if they teach it in college, it can't be wrong, right?
The royal feast was done; the King
Sought some new sport to banish care,
And to his jester cried: "Sir Fool,
Kneel now, and make for us a prayer!"

The jester doffed his cap and bells,
And stood the mocking court before;
They could not see the bitter smile
Behind the painted grin he wore.

He bowed his head, and bent his knee
Upon the Monarch's silken stool;
His pleading voice arose: "O Lord,
Be merciful to me, a fool!"
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 08:00:17 PM »

Scientists don't know everything.  Therefore, they know nothing.

Scientists pretend to know everything, therefore they know nothing.

Their pretense makes them incapable of distinguishing between true and false.

Some scientists may pretend that science is omnipotent but, as the saying goes, one swallow does not a summer make. Science is a heterogeneous field of knowledge and research.

In any case, here's a hilarious example of one such scientist that claims that science can account for everything, thus rendering God unnecessary. Watch from 8:00 onwards:

DISPOSE OUR DAYS IN THY PEACE, AND COMMAND US TO BE DELIVERED FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION, AND TO BE NUMBERED IN THE FLOCK OF THINE ELECT.
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 10:33:46 PM »

Science is a heterogeneous field of knowledge and research.

That's exactly what it is not. You must toe the party line, or else you will immediately be expelled.


 
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Would you like to shake hands with Pope 1 or Pope 2 -
 me (inspired by Dr Seuss) see: https://seuss.fandom.com/wiki/Thing_One_and_Thing_Two

But when he's dumb and no more here,
Nineteen hundred years or near,
Clau-Clau-Claudius shall speak clear.
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2018, 11:05:30 AM »

Science is a heterogeneous field of knowledge and research.

That's exactly what it is not. You must toe the party line, or else you will immediately be expelled.

That is really not true.

There are plenty of scientists who are religious. I have a biochemist friend, for instance, that works in a renowned lab and she's a trad who doesn't believe in Darwinian Evolution, for instance. Her job was never at stake. She's good at what she does.
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2018, 10:50:23 AM »
There ya have it, folks.  Scientists don't know everything.  Therefore, they know nothing.

Nope. Professional quacks pretend that the untestable just-so stories of “historical science” concocted in an attempt to “explain” the world naturalistically, which parasitise real empirical results and mathematics, have some mystical epistemological value by virtue of “science” and their intellectual credentials.
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2018, 10:59:50 AM »

Scientists don't know everything.  Therefore, they know nothing.

Scientists pretend to know everything, therefore they know nothing.

Their pretense makes them incapable of distinguishing between true and false.

What they and those who follow them religiously like to do is hide behind the certain intellectual effort and competence required to grasp their subjects, not to mention the ingenuities involved in their invention. But the same is no less true of chess, and that doesn’t mean chess has anything to do with the real world.
 

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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2018, 11:55:25 AM »
Science is a heterogeneous field of knowledge and research.
That's exactly what it is not. You must toe the party line, or else you will immediately be expelled.

Do people who say that work professionally as scientists, and if so, in what field and with what "party line"?

Professionals most likely accept some foundational principles of their field. An aeronautical engineer is probably not going to work long without accepting that, most of the time, airplanes fly.
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2018, 01:05:44 PM »
Academia is horrible. This is one of the reasons I chose not to go into it.

By academia's standards, Plato (if he were writing today) would be regarded as a bad philosopher. Because Plato writes dialogues rather peer-reviewed journal articles, and because Plato doesn't always cite his sources.
And by academia's standards, Socrates (if he were teaching today) would be an even worse philosopher. Because Socrates doesn't publish stuff in peer-reviewed journals (nor does he publish anything at all...)
And whereas academia encourages uninformed professors and grad students to publish lots of erroneous (albeit well-cited) speculation even when they have no idea what they're talking about, Pythagoras forbids even the most brilliant philosophers from speaking for the first three to five years of their studies until after they have mastered his dogmatic teachings and proven themselves worthy to speak on the subject.

Academia is backwards. What you end up with is a sea of garbage coming from so-called "experts" working in academia, who don't know what they're talking about. And then when amateurs and professionals outside of academia conduct their own research and publish it--even if what they publish is true--academia ignores it right off the bat since none of it is "adademic".

And I'm pretty sure that Edward Feser has been mocked for teaching at a small college rather than at a big university, and for writing for a general audience rather than in peer-reviewed journals.
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2018, 04:44:50 PM »
Science is a heterogeneous field of knowledge and research.
That's exactly what it is not. You must toe the party line, or else you will immediately be expelled.

Do people who say that work professionally as scientists, and if so, in what field and with what "party line"?

Why don't you try clicking the link in the post you're responding to, and there you will find the answers to your questions?
 

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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2018, 06:52:27 PM »
Science is a heterogeneous field of knowledge and research.
That's exactly what it is not. You must toe the party line, or else you will immediately be expelled.

Do people who say that work professionally as scientists, and if so, in what field and with what "party line"?

Professionals most likely accept some foundational principles of their field. An aeronautical engineer is probably not going to work long without accepting that, most of the time, airplanes fly.

Yes. For example, biologists in academia claim to embrace evolution, which to them is the backbone of all biological understanding. Evolution explains the physical differences between species and sub-species and the propensity for certain diseases among varying populations. However, when it comes to genetic and thus racial or ethnic differences in intelligence, for example, for some reason evolution magically does not apply. They claim modern humans are different from our primate ancestors due to a developed prefrontal cortex, but for some reason, the sub-species within modern humans, which evolved throughout the ages under different environmental pressures, are magically protected from having any cortical differences. They must toe the party line or modern religion of 'equality' lest they 'offend' some protected class and thus lose their tenured positions.
 
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Re: The earth was created by solar winds that blew space rocks together
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2018, 08:08:36 AM »
There ya have it, folks.  Scientists don't know everything.  Therefore, they know nothing.

Nope. Professional quacks pretend that the untestable just-so stories of “historical science” concocted in an attempt to “explain” the world naturalistically, which parasitise real empirical results and mathematics, have some mystical epistemological value by virtue of “science” and their intellectual credentials.

Well, you can think what you like.  You've provided no real argument, only a peremptory and angry dismissal with lots of words in scare quotes.

Which is, of course, what this is all about in the first place.  Anger at and jealousy of the prestige science and scientists have, which leads to holding the entire discipline in contempt.

But as I said, you can think what you like.  Science will progress whether you like it or not, and the epithets you hurl in its direction will make little difference.