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Abortion rules begin to be drafted in Catholic Ireland.
« on: September 15, 2018, 08:54:32 AM »
 :-[To our brothers and sisters in Ireland especially: is there even the slightest possibility that some kind of appeals process could still stop this law? What is the best way to try to gradually overturn it, as a next step, in case all those appeals efforts fail?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/abortion-rules-to-be-drafted-after-last-legal-obstacle-falls-fxmfgwjsh

"TDs and senators are set to examine how to offer and regulate abortion services in Ireland, starting this week.

The Oireachtas health committee is preparing to hear from medical experts how medical and surgical terminations could be made available before the landmark law is passed this year.

Simon Harris, the health minister, is clear to press ahead with a law making abortion available for all women for the first time in the history of the state. This follows the end of legal attempts to block the comprehensive result of the referendum to repeal the Eighth Amendment, Ireland’s constitutional ban on abortion.

Mr Harris has promised to have abortion services in place by January and the government has said that the procedure will also be available…"
Please Consecrate yourself to the Immaculate Heart daily, especially in the Sacred Month of August: Do never secede for any pretended reason from the Pope and the Bishops, and pray and work for the Pope and the Bishops to Consecrate Russia one day, as they infallibly will quite soon. Consecrate Russia yourself in Communion and in Union with the Pope and Bishops. Please consecrate aborted babies every day. You can save unborn children with every prayer for their Baptism that you say and help efficaciously end terrible abortion-killing worldwide.

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Re: Abortion rules begin to be drafted in Catholic Ireland.
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2018, 12:01:20 PM »
Re-conversion of the Isle.
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Re: Abortion rules begin to be drafted in Catholic Ireland.
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2018, 01:14:27 PM »
Yep, this country needs a catastrophe and then a re boot.

The fact is that our health services cannot provide abortions solely, limited resources and general practitioners are not happy to dispense the abortion pill to their patients.  Watch this space, it will pave the way very quickly for private operators like Marie Stopes and their ilk (which we were told would not happen)
 
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Re: Abortion rules begin to be drafted in Catholic Ireland.
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2018, 02:05:54 PM »
:-[To our brothers and sisters in Ireland especially: is there even the slightest possibility that some kind of appeals process could still stop this law? What is the best way to try to gradually overturn it, as a next step, in case all those appeals efforts fail?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/abortion-rules-to-be-drafted-after-last-legal-obstacle-falls-fxmfgwjsh

"TDs and senators are set to examine how to offer and regulate abortion services in Ireland, starting this week.

The Oireachtas health committee is preparing to hear from medical experts how medical and surgical terminations could be made available before the landmark law is passed this year.

Simon Harris, the health minister, is clear to press ahead with a law making abortion available for all women for the first time in the history of the state. This follows the end of legal attempts to block the comprehensive result of the referendum to repeal the Eighth Amendment, Ireland’s constitutional ban on abortion.

Mr Harris has promised to have abortion services in place by January and the government has said that the procedure will also be available…"

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Re: Abortion rules begin to be drafted in Catholic Ireland.
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2018, 09:48:42 AM »
We need to start praying like never before. That's the only solution. Praying and leading very holy lives. So that our combined merits are sufficient to keep evil at bay. Let us try to say 15 decades at least daily if we can. I hope some legal technicality can still delay it for some time longer, but the press says it's going to go into effect soon: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/abortion-legislation-could-be-delayed-by-further-appeal-1.3610645?mode=amp

"even if the Supreme Court hears an appeal, legal and political sources say there is little chance of success. However, it could delay the process further.

Once the legal process is completed, the result is certified and the President can then sign the referendum bill, triggering the amendment of the constitution as endorsed by voters in May. Only then can legislation be introduced to the Oireachtas.

The Minister for Health, Simon Harris, will not accept any substantive amendments to the legislation
But Government sources say that work is continuing to prepare for the introduction of the legislation when the Dáil returns in late September and the subsequent introduction of abortion services.

The Government hopes that the legislation – which will provide for abortion to be legal in all circumstances up to 12 weeks and in specified cases thereafter – will be through the Houses of the Oireachtas and signed into law by the President by the end of October. It is understood that the Minister for Health, Simon Harris, will not accept any substantive amendments to the legislation. The Government then intends to have abortion services available by the beginning of next year.

Abortion pills will be prescribed by general practitioners in early pregnancy, while for abortions later in pregnancy, services are expected to be provided in maternity hospitals." :-\ :-[ :pray1:
Please Consecrate yourself to the Immaculate Heart daily, especially in the Sacred Month of August: Do never secede for any pretended reason from the Pope and the Bishops, and pray and work for the Pope and the Bishops to Consecrate Russia one day, as they infallibly will quite soon. Consecrate Russia yourself in Communion and in Union with the Pope and Bishops. Please consecrate aborted babies every day. You can save unborn children with every prayer for their Baptism that you say and help efficaciously end terrible abortion-killing worldwide.

Mary, our Heavenly Mother, implores those who receive Holy Communion Daily, or at least Weekly, to Offer their Lives. TEXT OF THE LIFE OFFERING, adapted and pluralized: Dear Lord Jesus, before the Holy Trinity, Our Heavenly Mother, and the whole Heavenly Court, united with Your most Precious Blood and Your Sacrifice on Calvary, We hereby Offer our whole Lives to the Intention of Your Sacred Heart and to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Together with our life, we place at Your disposal all Holy Masses, all our Holy Communions, all Rosaries, all acts of consecration, all our good deeds, all our sacrifices, and the suffering of our entire life for the Adoration and Supplication of the Holy Trinity, for Unity in our Holy Mother Church, for the Holy Father, Pope Francis the First; and for His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI. For His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and His Holiness Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople, that they may re-unite their flocks with the Catholic Church, and there may soon be but One Fold and One Shepherd. For all the Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church, for all Bishops of the Universal Church that they may be true Apostles and Shepherds; and for Priests, Nuns and Monks, for good Priestly and Religious Vocations, and for All Souls until the end of the world. O my Jesus, please accept our life Sacrifice and our offerings and give us Your grace that we may all persevere obediently until death. Amen." https://marianapostolate.com/life-offering/ Please pray this daily and you and your family will be saved. You will avoid Purgatory.

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Re: Abortion rules begin to be drafted in Catholic Ireland.
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2018, 03:04:23 PM »
Yep, this country needs a catastrophe and then a re boot.

The fact is that our health services cannot provide abortions solely, limited resources and general practitioners are not happy to dispense the abortion pill to their patients.  Watch this space, it will pave the way very quickly for private operators like Marie Stopes and their ilk (which we were told would not happen)

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Re: Abortion rules begin to be drafted in Catholic Ireland.
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2018, 05:30:11 PM »
A big thanks needs to be given to Ireland's useless cohort of Conciliar bishops who provided what could be described as nominal, Francis-pleasing, pseudo-opposition. The National Seminary in Maynooth has long been a place of heresy and sexual depravity, and the others which closed, or cease training priests, in the years after V2 like St John's College Waterford, or All Hallow, Dublin were barely better or perhaps (with the latter) even worse. Sean Fortune might be seen as a bad apple, but a year book of the early '80s seemed full of sodo-innuendo. One legal challenge turned on the great effort that was made to entice liberal leaning Irish from abroad to return and vote, despite them patently not having any sort of residency requirement. That seemed a basis for legal challenge, prima facie The judiciary decided otherwise. The complete consensus of the oligarch media was striking, but even a half hearted effort by diocesan bishops might have made a difference. The pro-life marches were inspiring, but had little support from that quarter. Only prayer now.  :pray1:
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