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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2018, 08:05:40 PM »
Greed can be for things besides money:

-Acclaim
-Sex
-Attention
-Privileges that have nothing to do with money

Yes.  Precisely the point, OCLF.  Some others may have a narrow understanding of "separate" Capital Sins, but there is quite a bit of overlap.  They can be understood separately as a matter of utility and discernment, but they are dynamic.

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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2018, 12:30:44 AM »
Just came across this quote while searching for St. Augustine.

H. L. Mencken: “When some­body says it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.”
 
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2018, 05:39:59 PM »
It makes sense. The Vulgate, that is.

Pride is at the heart of evil, but it would lead to nothing if not for greed to supply oneself with that which one desires. If pride is the seed, greed certainly is the root!
 
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2018, 11:55:38 AM »
I like money. Gets stuff done.

Money can't buy you happiness - but poverty buys you f***ing nothing.

Well there goes the Franciscans . . . and the Gospel.
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2018, 12:43:32 PM »
I don't love money.

I love the power you have when you spend it.

For example I tried to get a Grab (Uber) in Manila.  This is a nightmare as Philippino Uber drivers will simply not turn up hoping you will cancel the job and leaving you in no man's land.  Then the Shangri-La hotel offered to drive me, (at 400 % of the taxi fare) but they spent too long poncing about and I could have been late for the meeting, which I never am, so I walked out of the hotel road complex and found a regular cab on the street.  The metered fare would have been 4 dollars (through 40 mins of traffic) but I said "I will double it if you get me there by 4:30pm"

Bloke drove like a bastard and got me there for 4:27, turned up the air conditioning all the way, and was a massive Sinatra fan, so I put my Karaoke disk on during the trip.  I tripled the fare to 12 dollars which he refused at first, but I insisted.

As Laus says.  Money gets stuff done.  You can help people with it and help them to help you.
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2018, 12:49:20 PM »
I like money. Gets stuff done.

Money can't buy you happiness - but poverty buys you f***ing nothing.

Well there goes the Franciscans . . . and the Gospel.

Well I'm not a Franciscan - I'm a soon to be husband and hopefully a soon to be Dad....so my point stands.
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2018, 12:52:45 PM »
I don't like money itself. I like what I can do with money.

Like put a roof over my head
Food in my belly
Shoes on my feet
Hot water for the shower
Shampoo for my head and soap for me pits and nether regions
Metro tickets to get to Mass
Toilet paper
etc



Sometimes the anti-money attitudes in Catholicism go too far IMO. "Be poor, despise money" the Trads say, then the next minute we're guilt tripped for not tithing.

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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2018, 01:16:54 PM »
I like money. Gets stuff done.

Money can't buy you happiness - but poverty buys you f***ing nothing.

Well there goes the Franciscans . . . and the Gospel.

Well I'm not a Franciscan - I'm a soon to be husband and hopefully a soon to be Dad....so my point stands.


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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2018, 01:57:34 PM »
I like money. Gets stuff done.

Money can't buy you happiness - but poverty buys you f***ing nothing.

Well there goes the Franciscans . . . and the Gospel.

Well I'm not a Franciscan - I'm a soon to be husband and hopefully a soon to be Dad....so my point stands.


Will post more later.

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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2018, 03:35:36 PM »
Being poor is easy.  That's why idiots and the lazy are usually poor.

What's far more difficult is earning money and not pissing it away on your own selfish wants.

I don't admire the poor.  I admire people who live way below their means.  It is a smart way to live a good use of your talents and requires self discipline.
 
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2018, 05:37:53 PM »
John Lamb is an enjoyable and studious poster. I think he was just being lazy, cus I know he knows better.
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2018, 09:44:30 PM »
John Lamb is an enjoyable and studious poster. I think he was just being lazy, cus I know he knows better.

Or, making a joke.  That's how I read it. He seems incredibly knowledgeable to me, and, I would suspect, understanding that material poverty is not a blatant command for all Christians across the board.
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Re: Is love of money the root of *all* evil?
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2018, 10:22:38 PM »
John Lamb is an enjoyable and studious poster. I think he was just being lazy, cus I know he knows better.

Or, making a joke.  That's how I read it. He seems incredibly knowledgeable to me, and, I would suspect, understanding that material poverty is not a blatant command for all Christians across the board.

This is the internet ma'am, and a forum at that. Everyone knows there's no joking allowed.

John Lamb -- were you joking?
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