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Introduction
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:56:40 PM »
Hello everyone!

I've been searching for Traditional Catholic forums recently in order to learn more about the Western Christian faith prior to the more recent liberal developments of the past century. The phenomenon of Traditional Catholicism is interesting in this respect. I've been pursuing religious studies for quite some time, since it's a topic of great interest to me. Although I'm a Muslim, I've been looking to study Christianity and Judaism more in depth.

God willing, I hope to learn from this experience.

May the peace, mercy and blessings of God be with you.



 
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 08:45:44 PM »
Hello.

What branch/school of Islam are you from? I'm assuming perhaps Sunni, since I also assume your screenname is in reference to Khalid ibn al-Walid, but which school specifically? Were you raised Muslim?

Are you from the US? an Arab country?

What particularly interests you about Catholic teaching?


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Re: Introduction
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 09:11:45 PM »
God has led you to us, friend. And His Willing be, you will be with us for much time. Please know that as Catholics and followers of Christ Almighty, it is our obligation to love our neighbor. Yet we must live God more in His Commandments. The liberal Catholicism you speak of is not found here.

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Re: Introduction
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 01:24:47 AM »
Welcome, friend.

I look forward to your answers to Gardener's questions.  I've been greatly blessed with excellent experiences with many Muslim neighbors over the years - large, loving, moral families. 

Our best friends are <very!> traditional Catholics from the Middle East, who have quite an extended family here from that region.  They often discuss the fertile ground of Muslims for conversion to traditional Catholicism. 

It's good to have you join the SD family!
They shall not be confounded in the evil time; and in the days of famine they shall be filled
Psalms 36:19
 
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2018, 01:30:09 AM »
!أهلا وسهلا

Welcome!
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2018, 01:36:23 AM »
Hello, fellow Muslim friend! :seeya:

Here in Singapore (aka where I live), it's not uncommon to have Muslims neighbors (literally) living next door in a block, & as far as I can tell they are charitable to everyone, especially towards the resident stray cats who wander downstairs. Do you happen to like cats? Because here we are all traditional Cat-holics! :D (pun intended.)

That said, here's some confetti. Welcome to the forum! ^-^




 
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 07:07:59 PM »
Thank you all for your warm welcome.

What branch/school of Islam are you from? I'm assuming perhaps Sunni, since I also assume your screenname is in reference to Khalid ibn al-Walid, but which school specifically? Were you raised Muslim?

Are you from the US? an Arab country?

What particularly interests you about Catholic teaching?

I'm a Sunni Muslim from birth and I'm from the US. I follow the Hanaf maddhab (Fqh) and Mturd school (Kalm). I have an interest in Sufism as well. Since you also quickly pointed out the reference to the great Khlid ibn al-Wald, I gather you have more than a passing knowledge of Islam, Gardener.

My primary interests when it comes to Catholic teaching deal with Christology and Soteriology.

Do you happen to like cats? Because here we are all traditional Cat-holics!

Yes, I do.

Cats are especially revered in Islam. They are the quintessential pet in the Muslim world, following the example of our Prophet (s.a.w.) who was especially fond of cats.
 
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 07:24:21 AM »
Welcome, dear friend. Good to know about your interest. May the good God guide you in your studies.

As Heinrich said, Jesus Christ taught us that the Highest of the commandments is to love the Lord our God with all our hearts; and to love our neighbor as our own selves for His sake; the proverbial "neighbor" not being those of our own religion or race only, but all men and women everywhere, as the Lord Christ explained to the scribes. As Muslims, you revere Abraham, Moses and the Prophets; David, Solomon and the kings. We have the writings of these and other holy men preserved in the Bible; we have the accounts of the life of Jesus Christ written by His Apostles. One of them, St. John, was not only His Apostle, but also the caretaker of His Mother Mary, whom we know you respect. He has left us his testimony and Hers in experiencing the love of Jesus Christ. I hope that as you read from the Prophets, and the life and teaching of Jesus Christ, you will be inspired and edified. God bless.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2018, 08:17:19 AM »
Welcome to the forum! I hope you find here what you are searching for.
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2018, 12:21:21 PM »
Welcome, dear friend. Good to know about your interest. May the good God guide you in your studies.

As Heinrich said, Jesus Christ taught us that the Highest of the commandments is to love the Lord our God with all our hearts; and to love our neighbor as our own selves for His sake; the proverbial "neighbor" not being those of our own religion or race only, but all men and women everywhere, as the Lord Christ explained to the scribes. As Muslims, you revere Abraham, Moses and the Prophets; David, Solomon and the kings. We have the writings of these and other holy men preserved in the Bible; we have the accounts of the life of Jesus Christ written by His Apostles. One of them, St. John, was not only His Apostle, but also the caretaker of His Mother Mary, whom we know you respect. He has left us his testimony and Hers in experiencing the love of Jesus Christ. I hope that as you read from the Prophets, and the life and teaching of Jesus Christ, you will be inspired and edified. God bless.

For what it's worth, St. John, Apostle, was wholly responsible for me not leaving the Faith. 
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Re: Introduction
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2018, 01:06:26 PM »
Thank you all for your warm welcome.

What branch/school of Islam are you from? I'm assuming perhaps Sunni, since I also assume your screenname is in reference to Khalid ibn al-Walid, but which school specifically? Were you raised Muslim?

Are you from the US? an Arab country?

What particularly interests you about Catholic teaching?

I'm a Sunni Muslim from birth and I'm from the US. I follow the Hanaf maddhab (Fqh) and Mturd school (Kalm). I have an interest in Sufism as well. Since you also quickly pointed out the reference to the great Khlid ibn al-Wald, I gather you have more than a passing knowledge of Islam, Gardener.

My primary interests when it comes to Catholic teaching deal with Christology and Soteriology.

Do you happen to like cats? Because here we are all traditional Cat-holics!

Yes, I do.

Cats are especially revered in Islam. They are the quintessential pet in the Muslim world, following the example of our Prophet (s.a.w.) who was especially fond of cats.

What specifically about Christology and Soteriology interests you?

Yes, I have more than a passing/news watching understanding of Islam, Arabic culture, and language. I have two tours in Iraq (Samarra 2005, Baghdad 2007-2008) under my belt. I took it upon myself to understand as much as I could during and after those times. I have taken a college level course in Arabic (introductory, please don't expect me to be conversant).

As for your school -- in 2008 I had the chance to drive by the reconstructed Abu Hanafi mosque in Baghdad, as my squadron commander had a meeting near it.

As for Sufi theology, I greatly enjoy the mysticism present in the wine poetry which is often present in the Sufi writers. My personal favorite is that of Rabi'a Al-Basri. Her biographical information is astounding, and indicates a soul of good will despite her situation. Her poetry indicates a soul seeking God for His sake.

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If I adore You out of fear of Hell,
Burn me in Hell!
If I adore you out of desire for Paradise,
Lock me out of Paradise.
But if I adore you for Yourself alone,
Do not deny to me Your eternal beauty.

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Brothers, my peace is in my aloneness.
My Beloved is alone with me there, always.
I have found nothing in all the worlds
That could match His love,
This love that harrows the sands of my desert.
If I come to die of desire
And my Beloved is still not satisfied,
I would live in eternal despair.

To abandon all that He has fashioned
And hold in the palm of my hand
Certain proof that He loves me---
That is the name and the goal of my search.

Here's a nice intro to Christology from an Eastern point of view:


I would recommend that you find sources in Arabic if you feel comfortable with the language. While raised in the US, your soul is trained in Eastern thought and Latin (Western) explanations might come across as blasphemous or confusing -- perhaps I'm wrong.

User Aquinas138 could probably point you in the direction of good, orthodox interpretations of Scripture from the Eastern Fathers.

"And what use are the victories on the battlefield if we are ourselves are defeated in our innermost personal selves?" - St. Maximilian Kolbe

Providence is a present mystery by which our hope is confirmed and our faith solidified, if we give not into despair or disbelief.