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Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« on: March 29, 2018, 02:29:53 AM »
Please explain your reasons in the thread. 

My list and my question were prompted by the recent thread about Russia.  I tended to choose larger land masses and/or more populated countries, and/or ones with some roots to the West.  (The CIA considers China to be fully developed, but I do not, nor do my Chinese students.  Even if it were, it's off the list for obvious reasons.)

If you choose Other, first check to see if it's been named by another poster before separately listing the country in the thread.  If it's been named, just vote Other and then thank the first poster who named it.

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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2018, 05:19:42 AM »
Ive been to 70+ counties, including all on the list, lived in 4 and hands down Poland. Russia is NOT a “Catholic friendly” country. Poland may be neoCath land, bu its the most Catholic friendly by far
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2018, 09:31:04 AM »
Poland hands down. One nation that still has a faint inkling of what once all Christendom understood, that Jesus Christ is to rule over men and nations as King of kings and Lord of lords. I just love the fact that the bishops of Poland consecrated that country to Jesus' Kingship in the presence of their president. The Social Kingship of our Lord Jesus Christ has been almost destroyed by liberal Christians who believe in agnostic secularism and laicization of society.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/polish-bishops-and-president-duda-declare-christ-king-poland

"The social kingship of our Divine Lord is absolutely founded in necessary and dogmatic truths about Christ," said Fr. McDonald. "It is not merely an element of private revelation. St. Gregory the Great said that there were heretics who denied that Christ is the King of and over everything."

Parts of the enthronement ceremony read by the clergy and the congregation at the Nov. 19 ceremony included the following:

"In our hearts, Rule us, Christ! In our families, Rule us, Christ! ... In our schools and universities, Rule us, Christ! ... Through the Polish nation, rule us, Christ! ... We pledge to defend Your holy worship and preach Thy royal glory, Christ our King, we promise! We pledge to do Your will and protect the integrity of our consciences, Christ our King, we promise! We pledge to care for the sanctity of our families and the Christian education of children, Christ our King, we promise!

"[T]he King of kings and Lord of Rulers! We entrust the Polish people and Polish leaders to you. Make them exercise their power fairly and in accordance with Your laws. ... Rule us, Christ! Reign in our homeland and reign in every nation -- for the greater glory of the Most Holy Trinity and the salvation of mankind."
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2018, 10:47:49 AM »
Its definitely not the Vatican... :D
 
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2018, 11:08:56 AM »
man, listening to Chopin & reading up the life of Copernicus were the sole reasons why I had loved Poland for its food, music & culture ever since I was a kid. Knew it has a rich Catholic heritage with St. Stanislaus as its patron, but didn't expect it to be so Catholic up to this day & age. Tiny country, big faith. :D
 

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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2018, 02:25:41 PM »
I lived in Spain for 14 years; very, anti-Catholic. There is little left of once Catholic Spain.
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2018, 02:40:52 PM »
Poland hands down. One nation that still has a faint inkling of what once all Christendom understood, that Jesus Christ is to rule over men and nations as King of kings and Lord of lords. I just love the fact that the bishops of Poland consecrated that country to Jesus' Kingship in the presence of their president. The Social Kingship of our Lord Jesus Christ has been almost destroyed by liberal Christians who believe in agnostic secularism and laicization of society.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/polish-bishops-and-president-duda-declare-christ-king-poland

"The social kingship of our Divine Lord is absolutely founded in necessary and dogmatic truths about Christ," said Fr. McDonald. "It is not merely an element of private revelation. St. Gregory the Great said that there were heretics who denied that Christ is the King of and over everything."

Parts of the enthronement ceremony read by the clergy and the congregation at the Nov. 19 ceremony included the following:

"In our hearts, Rule us, Christ! In our families, Rule us, Christ! ... In our schools and universities, Rule us, Christ! ... Through the Polish nation, rule us, Christ! ... We pledge to defend Your holy worship and preach Thy royal glory, Christ our King, we promise! We pledge to do Your will and protect the integrity of our consciences, Christ our King, we promise! We pledge to care for the sanctity of our families and the Christian education of children, Christ our King, we promise!

"[T]he King of kings and Lord of Rulers! We entrust the Polish people and Polish leaders to you. Make them exercise their power fairly and in accordance with Your laws. ... Rule us, Christ! Reign in our homeland and reign in every nation -- for the greater glory of the Most Holy Trinity and the salvation of mankind."
This was influenced by the "Enthronement of Jesus Christ, King of Poland" movement which promotion was originally entrusted to the servant of God, Rozalia Celakowna in 1930's. Many claim that the act of enthronement was not done properly as requested.

http://www.rozalia.krakow.pl/en/-about_rc.htm
More detailed explanation of her mission and locutions.
http://intronizacja.pl/images/obrazki/SB_Rozalia_Celakowna_ENG.pdf
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2018, 02:41:02 PM »
I chose Poland because of what I have gathered recently about it in the news.
 

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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2018, 02:42:44 PM »
I was a Catholic living in Russia.

Nobody was every unfriendly about it.  In fact, all the practicing Orthodox I knew were highly respectful BECAUSE I was a Trad Catholic.  Since most Russians aren't even practicing they can't really complain about other practicing Christians.

I would BET that if the SSPX turned up in Moscow and had a procession of Our Lady that the Orthodox would not bat an eyelid.

I even took a Russian Orthodox priest to the monastery on the Isle of Sheppy run by the Trans-alpine Redemptorists.  He was VERY impressed.  Astonished.

What pisses the Russians off is when you try to import faggotry or other western values into their system.  They like to run their own affairs in their own way, which is fair enough, because it is not like the west gives them any help or money.  We just complain about their lack of democracy and freedom of the press and other such things.

 
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2018, 03:10:18 PM »
I was a Catholic living in Russia.

Nobody was every unfriendly about it.  In fact, all the practicing Orthodox I knew were highly respectful BECAUSE I was a Trad Catholic.  Since most Russians aren't even practicing they can't really complain about other practicing Christians.

I would BET that if the SSPX turned up in Moscow and had a procession of Our Lady that the Orthodox would not bat an eyelid.

I even took a Russian Orthodox priest to the monastery on the Isle of Sheppy run by the Trans-alpine Redemptorists.  He was VERY impressed.  Astonished.

What pisses the Russians off is when you try to import faggotry or other western values into their system.  They like to run their own affairs in their own way, which is fair enough, because it is not like the west gives them any help or money.  We just complain about their lack of democracy and freedom of the press and other such things.

I've only been here less than a week, but I can see that vis a vis the Orthodox. GF's Mom was pissed she is and is with a Catholic, until I showed up. Will go to Easter liturgy with her next week - if my legs can bear it.
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2018, 04:18:09 PM »
I voted Ireland as that is where I I live and my experience day to day tells me we are culturally still Catholic . It's not unusual to see people blessing themselves passing a church. Schools are almost totally Catholic , communions and confirmations are still very much the norm.  Driving through the countryside you will see houses and their Marian shrines in the garden,  some of my friends will have their Sacred Heart pictures in their houses. But that's all just culturally.
I visited Poland twice and it took my breath away seeing young priest and nuns walking on the street in proper garments. The Polish have the fight still in them and would put the Irish to shame in that department.
 
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2018, 10:11:30 PM »
I was a Catholic living in Russia.

Nobody was every unfriendly about it.  In fact, all the practicing Orthodox I knew were highly respectful BECAUSE I was a Trad Catholic.  Since most Russians aren't even practicing they can't really complain about other practicing Christians.

I would BET that if the SSPX turned up in Moscow and had a procession of Our Lady that the Orthodox would not bat an eyelid.

I even took a Russian Orthodox priest to the monastery on the Isle of Sheppy run by the Trans-alpine Redemptorists.  He was VERY impressed.  Astonished.

What pisses the Russians off is when you try to import faggotry or other western values into their system.  They like to run their own affairs in their own way, which is fair enough, because it is not like the west gives them any help or money.  We just complain about their lack of democracy and freedom of the press and other such things.

I've only been here less than a week, but I can see that vis a vis the Orthodox. GF's Mom was pissed she is and is with a Catholic, until I showed up. Will go to Easter liturgy with her next week - if my legs can bear it.

Yeah, dating is often different.  But a polite Catholic family who doesn't rock the boat and try to make their society liberal?  It's all good in Russia.  A devout family might want their kids to marry Orthodox, but being friends with a Catholic is no problem.
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2018, 05:33:15 AM »
man, listening to Chopin & reading up the life of Copernicus were the sole reasons why I had loved Poland for its food, music & culture ever since I was a kid. Knew it has a rich Catholic heritage with St. Stanislaus as its patron, but didn't expect it to be so Catholic up to this day & age. Tiny country, big faith. :D
Hardly "Tiny". It's 30% bigger than the U.K.
 
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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2018, 05:44:42 AM »
Germany travelled through it pretty fast.
 

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Re: Poll: most Catholic-friendly country
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2018, 06:51:07 AM »
I was a Catholic living in Russia.

Nobody was every unfriendly about it.  In fact, all the practicing Orthodox I knew were highly respectful BECAUSE I was a Trad Catholic.  Since most Russians aren't even practicing they can't really complain about other practicing Christians.

I would BET that if the SSPX turned up in Moscow and had a procession of Our Lady that the Orthodox would not bat an eyelid.

I even took a Russian Orthodox priest to the monastery on the Isle of Sheppy run by the Trans-alpine Redemptorists.  He was VERY impressed.  Astonished.

What pisses the Russians off is when you try to import faggotry or other western values into their system.  They like to run their own affairs in their own way, which is fair enough, because it is not like the west gives them any help or money.  We just complain about their lack of democracy and freedom of the press and other such things.

I've only been here less than a week, but I can see that vis a vis the Orthodox. GF's Mom was pissed she is and is with a Catholic, until I showed up. Will go to Easter liturgy with her next week - if my legs can bear it.

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