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Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« on: April 28, 2017, 08:51:41 PM »
I just read The Secret of the Rosary and was a little surprised to hear St. Louis say that it's best to split the 15-decades into 3 groups of 5 decades and pray throughout the day. (Before that I always just assumed you were supposed to pray it all at once.)

But I've got a question. Not sure whether he explained this or not, but, normally a 15-decade rosary is like this:
- Creed
- Our Father
- Hail Mary (x3)
- Glory Be
- 5 decades of joyful mysteries
- 5 decades of sorrowful mysteries
- 5 decades of glorious mysteries
- Hail Holy Queen
- unnamed Oremus

So, how exactly do we divide this up? Is it like this?

(morning)
- Creed
- Our Father
- Hail Mary (x3)
- Glory Be
- 5 decades of joyful mysteries

(midday)
- 5 decades of sorrowful mysteries

(evening)
- 5 decades of glorious mysteries
- Hail Holy Queen
- unnamed Oremus

Or, is it like this?

(morning)
- Creed
- Our Father
- Hail Mary (x3)
- Glory Be
- 5 decades of joyful mysteries
- Hail Holy Queen
- unnamed Oremus

(midday)
- Creed
- Our Father
- Hail Mary (x3)
- Glory Be
- 5 decades of sorrowful mysteries
- Hail Holy Queen
- unnamed Oremus

(evening)
- Creed
- Our Father
- Hail Mary (x3)
- Glory Be
- 5 decades of glorious mysteries
- Hail Holy Queen
- unnamed Oremus

Basically, I'm wondering if we pray those extra prayers before and after each sets of 5 decades (so it's basically 3 separate 5-decade rosaries), or just once each day while sandwiching everything between them (so it's like a 15-decade rosary with huge gaps in it)?
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2017, 06:43:54 PM »
Hmmm... I'm not sure to be honest. I suppose it is whichever way you prefer.

On a side note, the collect at the end is taken from the Feast of the Holy Rosary. I can't help but chuckle at the thought of Catholics reciting a prayer from the Traditional Mass at the end of their rosaries while otherwise not wanting to have anything to do with it.
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 06:51:52 PM »
I would pray the beginning and ending prayers every time I pray some portion of the Rosary. If the Rosary is the "layman's Office," this would make the most sense to me, as the opening and closing prayers are said at each hour of the Divine Office, even if several are said together. But note that the particular prayers said before and after the decades vary a great deal in different parts of the world, so it is really the decades that truly make up the Rosary - the rest is devotion governed by custom.
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 07:07:10 PM »
I would pray the beginning and ending prayers every time I pray some portion of the Rosary. If the Rosary is the "layman's Office," this would make the most sense to me, as the opening and closing prayers are said at each hour of the Divine Office, even if several are said together. But note that the particular prayers said before and after the decades vary a great deal in different parts of the world, so it is really the decades that truly make up the Rosary - the rest is devotion governed by custom.

I've honestly not come across people who pray all three sets of mysteries in a day.  (Who has time?) 

However, I've always seen people recommend beginning and ending the set of mysteries with the opening and closing, like Daniel has listed as his "second" option.
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 07:12:07 PM »
5 decades takes 15 minutes.  15 plus all that other stuff would take 1 hour.
 
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2017, 07:16:23 PM »
5 decades takes 15 minutes.  15 plus all that other stuff would take 1 hour.

I always hear this, and have images of the Irish speed rosary, like the Micromachine Man.

For me to pray 5 decades alone takes 30 minutes. We pray it as a family in about 25.
 

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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2017, 08:37:20 PM »
5 decades takes 15 minutes.  15 plus all that other stuff would take 1 hour.

I always hear this, and have images of the Irish speed rosary, like the Micromachine Man.

For me to pray 5 decades alone takes 30 minutes. We pray it as a family in about 25.

It takes us more like 20-25 minutes, as well.
 

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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2017, 10:48:22 PM »
I would pray the beginning and ending prayers every time I pray some portion of the Rosary. If the Rosary is the "layman's Office," this would make the most sense to me, as the opening and closing prayers are said at each hour of the Divine Office, even if several are said together. But note that the particular prayers said before and after the decades vary a great deal in different parts of the world, so it is really the decades that truly make up the Rosary - the rest is devotion governed by custom.

I've honestly not come across people who pray all three sets of mysteries in a day.  (Who has time?) 

However, I've always seen people recommend beginning and ending the set of mysteries with the opening and closing, like Daniel has listed as his "second" option.

I don't usually pray the Rosary, but if you said it instead of the Office, it wouldn't be so bad. It would be similar in length to Divino Afflatu Matins and Lauds, I would think. Finding time for 15 decades and the Office could be difficult. But I roll Byzantine - just Compline can be a good 30-40 minutes.
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2017, 10:52:08 PM »
I would pray the beginning and ending prayers every time I pray some portion of the Rosary. If the Rosary is the "layman's Office," this would make the most sense to me, as the opening and closing prayers are said at each hour of the Divine Office, even if several are said together. But note that the particular prayers said before and after the decades vary a great deal in different parts of the world, so it is really the decades that truly make up the Rosary - the rest is devotion governed by custom.

I've honestly not come across people who pray all three sets of mysteries in a day.  (Who has time?) 

However, I've always seen people recommend beginning and ending the set of mysteries with the opening and closing, like Daniel has listed as his "second" option.

I don't usually pray the Rosary, but if you said it instead of the Office, it wouldn't be so bad. It would be similar in length to Divino Afflatu Matins and Lauds, I would think. Finding time for 15 decades and the Office could be difficult. But I roll Byzantine - just Compline can be a good 30-40 minutes.

I interchange the Office and rosary depending on the day.  I'm a bad Catholic.  :lol:
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2017, 01:56:39 AM »
15 minutes is what it took my family when I was young.  Each took it in turns said 5 decades, no frills.

My brother packed his family's 5 decades out and it ended up taking 35-40 minutes.  When I visited my knees used to ache.  Over the years it got added to and got longer and longer.  The bit at the end with hymns, litanies, etc used to take as long as the Rosary.  Guess it depends what you are used to.

Let's face it, many of use here could find the time, if we wanted to.
 
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Re: Question about the 15-decade Rosary
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2017, 03:15:31 PM »
5 of an evening, 15 mins, but an hour all through once a week. Decently pronounced Latin can be said very quickly (say hearing Low Mass 30 mins inc prayers ordered by Leo XIII with very quick, well pronounced Latin) and is another way of keeping the correct pace. The excruciating slow Rosary of some just becomes tiring for me. However, people are different. The aim of prayer through steady concentration and words pronounced in a steady tone can transport a person to a certain spiritual state. Worries fall away. The time or rate of prayer for that varies.
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