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Title: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: TLM424 on January 26, 2019, 07:08:08 PM
I still have my Christmas tree up and would like to take it down tomorrow, which is a Sunday, if it’s allowed. Would this be allowed or would it be considered “work”? Thank you!
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Daniel on January 27, 2019, 07:40:59 AM
Sounds to me like a kind of 'cleaning', which is servile work. Probably not allowed.
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Traditionallyruralmom on January 27, 2019, 10:36:10 AM
I just folded towels and took down Christmas cards.....Im not gonna go scrub the floor or clean the bathroom...but I have to do SOMETHING while I sit at home with a sleeping sick child and listen to online sermons  :)  I think if you listen to a sermon or some religious music while wrapping ornaments in tissue paper, then you are killing 2 birds with one stone (sorrry PETA  ;)) I would not worry overmuch about it.
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Daniel on January 27, 2019, 02:13:30 PM
The Catholic Church says that God says that we cannot do servile labor on Sunday. And to my knowledge, God never said that servile labor is ok on Sundays in cases where it's one of the two birds being killed by the one stone (do that on Monday!). So the question would be whether taking down the tree is servile labor. If so, it's sinful (at least according to the Catholic Church). And it seems like servile labor to me.
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: mikemac on January 27, 2019, 05:48:56 PM
I just folded towels and took down Christmas cards.....Im not gonna go scrub the floor or clean the bathroom...but I have to do SOMETHING while I sit at home with a sleeping sick child and listen to online sermons  :)  I think if you listen to a sermon or some religious music while wrapping ornaments in tissue paper, then you are killing 2 birds with one stone (sorrry PETA  ;)) I would not worry overmuch about it.

Ha ha.  My sister in law has become a vegetarian.  I'll have to see if I can get a rise out of her with this phrase.  :)
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: VeraeFidei on January 28, 2019, 06:24:43 PM
I took my tree down yesterday
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Non Nobis on January 28, 2019, 09:48:23 PM
I didn't put up a tree  :( so I have no problem now!  :) I'll leave up the Nativity set for a while longer...
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Gardener on January 28, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
I took my tree down yesterday

You OK?
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Innocent Smith on January 29, 2019, 08:59:34 PM
The Catholic Church says that God says that we cannot do servile labor on Sunday. And to my knowledge, God never said that servile labor is ok on Sundays in cases where it's one of the two birds being killed by the one stone (do that on Monday!). So the question would be whether taking down the tree is servile labor. If so, it's sinful (at least according to the Catholic Church). And it seems like servile labor to me.

It's only servile labor if you're doing it for someone else. Taking down your own tree in order to organize your own house on a Sunday is just fine. What are we supposed to do after Mass, hang ourselves in some kind of device to put us into a state of suspended animation?

Do you hire Jews to turn your stove on for your Sunday dinner?

It really is a wonder how some view trads as a bit rigid.
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Traditionallyruralmom on January 30, 2019, 10:42:43 AM
The Catholic Church says that God says that we cannot do servile labor on Sunday. And to my knowledge, God never said that servile labor is ok on Sundays in cases where it's one of the two birds being killed by the one stone (do that on Monday!). So the question would be whether taking down the tree is servile labor. If so, it's sinful (at least according to the Catholic Church). And it seems like servile labor to me.

It's only servile labor if you're doing it for someone else. Taking down your own tree in order to organize your own house on a Sunday is just fine. What are we supposed to do after Mass, hang ourselves in some kind of device to put us into a state of suspended animation?

Do you hire Jews to turn your stove on for your Sunday dinner?

It really is a wonder how some view trads as a bit rigid.

I always think of the Little House in the Big Woods where they were forced to sit in their nice clothes on a bench and only look at the bible and keep quiet on Sunday...Pa was from a pretty intense Puritan background, but I am guessing he left it behind the farther he got away from his family....and the deeper he got into Free Masonry  ;)
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Gardener on January 30, 2019, 11:30:17 AM
The Catholic Church says that God says that we cannot do servile labor on Sunday. And to my knowledge, God never said that servile labor is ok on Sundays in cases where it's one of the two birds being killed by the one stone (do that on Monday!). So the question would be whether taking down the tree is servile labor. If so, it's sinful (at least according to the Catholic Church). And it seems like servile labor to me.

It's only servile labor if you're doing it for someone else. Taking down your own tree in order to organize your own house on a Sunday is just fine. What are we supposed to do after Mass, hang ourselves in some kind of device to put us into a state of suspended animation?

Do you hire Jews to turn your stove on for your Sunday dinner?

It really is a wonder how some view trads as a bit rigid.

I always think of the Little House in the Big Woods where they were forced to sit in their nice clothes on a bench and only look at the bible and keep quiet on Sunday...Pa was from a pretty intense Puritan background, but I am guessing he left it behind the farther he got away from his family....and the deeper he got into Free Masonry  ;)

I always, always, always recommend Isabella Bird's "A Lady's Life in the Rocky Mountains". In it, she describes a family, the Chalmers, who are staunch Calvinists. Their Sunday routine and general attitude is terrifying.

(Control+F "Chalmers")
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/755/pg755.txt

It's available from Amazon, too.

The Puritans had a person or persons who were responsible for punishing people who fell asleep during services (often 5-6 hours long). They'd hit them with a switch.
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Non Nobis on January 31, 2019, 06:45:51 PM
I took my tree down yesterday

You OK?
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Is this gif/video (tree falling) set to auto-play when I just open this thread?  I couldn't decide whether it was thunder outside, or something wrong with my laptop  :huh:, and then I looked here. I know this  happens on other website videos but it caught me by surprise here.
Title: Re: Are you allowed to take your Christmas tree down on a Sunday?
Post by: Non Nobis on January 31, 2019, 06:53:34 PM

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I always, always, always recommend Isabella Bird's "A Lady's Life in the Rocky Mountains". In it, she describes a family, the Chalmers, who are staunch Calvinists. Their Sunday routine and general attitude is terrifying.

(Control+F "Chalmers")
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/755/pg755.txt

It's available from Amazon, too.


You can get it for free on Kindle.  I'm a sucker for free Kindle books, especially when recommended by Gardener  ;)!