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Non-Catholic Discussion Subforum / Re: Documentary: Garabandal, Unstoppable Waterfall premieres in English July 2nd.

« Last post by Greg on Today at 06:28:20 AM »

1) Explain how the girls walked backward, much faster than the boys.

They either did not, or Satan.

(2) Explain how while looking up, they never blinked even when powerful torches were shone right in their eyes. Can you do this?

Either the people testing them were biased or Satan.

(3) Explain how that while in ecstasy, they were pricked, and did not show pain.

Either the people testing them were biased or Satan.

If someone did this to you, and you were faking an apparition, would you continue to?

I might be under the control of preternatural forces.

(4) Explain how they always gave the Rosary back to the right person, even though they had no idea whose it was.

This is simple to explain.  Nobody in Garabandal is objectively gathering the data.  The only people making the trip to an obscure little Spanish town are the people who want to believe there is a miracle.  The hard-nosed rationalists only turn up later when the apparitions are famous enough that they have an interest in disproving them.

(5) Explain the Eucharistic Miracles.

Simple there are not any.  There is no evidence for them other than a VERY blurred photograph.


Garabandal promoters are the ones making these extraordinary claims, they need to prove them.  The burden is on them.

Joey Lomangino getting cured on the day of the Miracle, his eyesight back and remaining cured was a major part of the Garabandal message and constantly refereed to by the promoters of Garabandal.  The fact Joey was old and getting older and that the promise of Our Lady was so unambiguous, gave a very definite time horizon for the believers and a reason to hope and contribute money and go on pilgrimages.  We know the miracle must be in Joey's lifetime and he is 30 years old than me so I have a good chance of seeing it.

When Joey Lomangino then dies in 2014, to sweep his death under the carpet and delete the source material referring to it, which they have done because I have seen the deletions with me own two eyes is THOROUGHLY dishonest and corrupt.  It is literally an apparition pyramid scheme, where you rope in early investors with false promises and then try to cover your tracks by deleting the lawsuits and the evidence for their claims that you sold them a lie.  The second set of investors are oblivious to the lies.

At the very least they should address this sincerely, not delete the documents to revise history and not call people doubting Thomas' for objecting to the fact that he was promised his eyesight back and is now long since dead.  But if they did that Garabandal would be kaput.  So like all cults they lie and cheat and cover-up.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Tucson diocese re-suspends public worship.

« Last post by clau clau on Today at 06:28:05 AM »

Diocesan leadership = Hirelings.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Racism as a Sin?

« Last post by Xavier on Today at 06:18:27 AM »

As you'd know, Greg, companies apply something called a "culture fit" beside a "talent fit" when looking for employees. That includes many things beside a working knowledge of the English language, which is often only one component. So yeah, I think it's fair to look for a culture fit in work related matters. But that's another matter. I agree that racial hatred is mostly dead today. There are, however, a few extremists who would like to see it kindled it again. I think we can all agree that both the Ku Klux Klan (who were also anti-Catholic, beside other things) and Black Panther were both extremist groups that do not represent most Whites or most Blacks, who would like only to get along peacefully with people of all races. I think it is good to remember that even on the natural level, as the Church has always taught, there should be a universal brotherhood between all peoples. Universal fraternity was a Christian concept. But especially in the supernatural level it is true, as stated earlier. There are great Saints who were Africans, like St. Augustine and St. Athanasius. And great Saints who were Europeans, like St. Thomas and St. Francis. And there are and have been many great people from all races.

Edit: Finally, many people act uncivilized today. From uncivilized language, to extreme alchohol addiction, drugs, fornication, adultery etc etc etc. The Gospel is the only solution in the long term.

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Non-Catholic Discussion Subforum / Re: Documentary: Garabandal, Unstoppable Waterfall premieres in English July 2nd.

« Last post by Xavier on Today at 06:04:09 AM »

Has it been approved by the Church?

Hi Bern. For that, please read, "There he finds some words written in longhand, containing an affectionate greeting and beneath it a name and signature: John Paul II. Albrecht cannot believe what he is seeing. Excitedly, he directs his gaze to the beginning of the text and he begins to read it with full attention, several times, from beginning to end. He is particularly struck by these lines:

“May God reward you for all your work, especially for the deep love with which you are making known the events related to Garabandal. May the message of the Mother of God be received in people’s hearts before it is too late. As an expression of joy and gratitude, the Holy Father wishes to impart his apostolic blessing to you.” https://www.garabandalthemovie.com/en/garabandal/witnesses/353-st-john-paul-ii

So while it officially has a "non constat" (unconfirmed; constat=confirmed supernatural; constat non=confirmed to not be supernatural) status, Pope John Paul II called Garabandal the Message of the Mother of God in a letter. Other prominent Churchmen who supported Garabandal were Pope Paul VI and Cardinal Ottaviani, beside St. Padre Pio and St. Mother Theresa. Conchita wrote the date of the Miracle on a letter and gave it to the Vatican.

They will likely declare a final judgment after that date passes. Hope that clears it up.

Greg, did you watch the video? You can't even explain one of the events, let alone all of them (1) Explain how the girls walked backward, much faster than the boys. (2) Explain how while looking up, they never blinked even when powerful torches were shone right in their eyes. Can you do this? (3) Explain how that while in ecstasy, they were pricked, and did not show pain. If someone did this to you, and you were faking an apparition, would you continue to? (4) Explain how they always gave the Rosary back to the right person, even though they had no idea whose it was; and explain how they knew the Priests and Religious, even though many in those days were dressed in plain clothes (a bad habit, pun intended, but it was something Our Lady used for this supernatural sign (5) Explain the Eucharistic Miracles, including the foretold Angelic Eucharistic Miracle of Miraculous Communion on the tongue, that happened on a prophesied date, and the other ones, like how the Blessed Mother kissed the Eucharistic Chamber, and explained to the girls what it was, as was confirmed only much later etc etc etc. That will do for now to begin with.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Racism as a Sin?

« Last post by Greg on Today at 05:53:37 AM »

If Racism means Racial Hatred, it is gravely wrong, period. Christianity teaches all people are descended from one first couple, Adam and Eve, the first parents of the whole human race. Science confirms this when it showed, in a discovery totally unexpected by atheistic evolutionists, that Y-Chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve are the human ancestors of all living human beings today, even of different appearances, showing the Truth there is one human race above all. Genetics itself refutes the old racists, who denied the humanity of other races, and who resorted to absurd theories like polygenism and multiple separate origins of the disparate races.

Racial Hatred is wrong because all hatred is wrong. The Word of God says, "he who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him". There is no basis in Christianity for race hatred. But just believing there are some differences between different people groups, so long as their basic humanity is not denied, is not racism. Christianity has always been Universal and open to all peoples of all races. It teaches firstly that all human beings are made in the Imago Dei, the Image of God, and that all the redeemed who are born again in Baptism are all sons and daughters of God and brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ Our Lord.

There is no racial hatred in the west.  It is a myth.  Nobody hates a whole race.

There is a rational fear of uncivilized people, coming to live in a democracy that does not have the tools to handle their savagery, corruption and barbarity.

You cannot give the same rights to a Somalian who has grown up in an authoritarian brutal culture as you can to a Hong Konger or Indian who have grown up in a democracy, speak English and observe many of the norms left behind by the British Empire.

The Somalian is FAR more likely to not be able to fit in to the norms of civilized society.  It does not matter than 80% of Somalians are able to live in your country by neither contributing much nor committing crimes.  If 20% of them commit crimes you have a big problem.

Just look at America today.  It is not MOST black people causing the problem.  It does not need to be most.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Racism as a Sin?

« Last post by Greg on Today at 05:47:26 AM »

Everybody knows what your talking about.

Clearly this is not true.  You must be smoking crack.

Look what is happening around you.

If they admitted that black people had a sub-class prone to violence, rage, resisting arrest and lashing out like wild dogs, then they would not be arresting the policemen and charging them with murder.  Clearly the cop did not murder George Floyd.

There would be a discussion saying, "it is not reasonable for convicted felons to expect to be handled by the police like Hindu shopkeepers, or white mid-westerner farmers or Jewish accountants, or Chinese computer developers, who have never committed a crime".  Someone with a record for pistol whipping a pregnant woman and holding a loaded gun to her belly while he robbed her house (George Floyd) cannot be expected to be treated the same by a policeman as someone from a community that almost never do that.

Niggers have brought this on their own heads, by persisting to act as niggers.

In a very real sense George Floyd's life does NOT matter as much as any of the law-abiding people, because during the many occasions before where he committed violent crimes he risked being shot to death by the victim or the cops had they caught him in the act.  He was lucky not to die before now.

The idea that former criminals can press the reset button and be treated by the police with kid gloves on each new arrest is just childish.  It is a nice platitude that "we are treated equally under the law" and perhaps a noble ideal to give hope to the criminals, that they won't be thrown away after their first crime, but in reality it can never be like that.  For a second offense you will get a longer sentence than for a first offense.  You are supposed to learn.

If a cop arrests a white man, or a chinaman, he knows there is close to ZERO chance of being stabbed, kicked, spat at.  The data proves this.  All stabbings in London are black and Muslim.  If he arrests a black man the chances are higher.  This is BOUND to alter the defensive nature, posture and responses of the cop.  The cop has a self-preservation instinct.

So everyone does not know what I am talking about.  You are wrong.  Most people are in denial and worried about being called a "racist".

See the video above of the girl getting stomped to death in Brooklyn.  If a gang of white yobs run at me (highly unlikely but let's assume I am wearing the wrong football shirt), then I am going to get a few punches and bruises.  I won't be stabbed and I won't be stomped to death.   I don't need to open fire and kill them to save my life.

If a Brooklyn gang do the same, then based on sensible risk assessment, I am going to open fire with a semi automatic weapon because I would be in fear otherwise of being savagely kicked and stomped to death.  That would be a reasonable fear.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Racism as a Sin?

« Last post by Xavier on Today at 05:45:03 AM »

If Racism means Racial Hatred, it is gravely wrong, period. Christianity teaches all people are descended from one first couple, Adam and Eve, the first parents of the whole human race. Science confirms this when it showed, in a discovery totally unexpected by atheistic evolutionists, that Y-Chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve are the human ancestors of all living human beings today, even of different appearances, showing the Truth there is one human race above all. Genetics itself refutes the old racists, who denied the humanity of other races, and who resorted to absurd theories like polygenism and multiple separate origins of the disparate races.

Racial Hatred is wrong because all hatred is wrong. The Word of God says, "he who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him". There is no basis in Christianity for race hatred. But just believing there are some differences between different people groups, so long as their basic humanity is not denied, is not racism. Christianity has always been Universal and open to all peoples of all races. It teaches firstly that all human beings are made in the Imago Dei, the Image of God, and that all the redeemed who are born again in Baptism are all sons and daughters of God and brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ Our Lord.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Racism as a Sin?

« Last post by Greg on Today at 05:32:43 AM »

Ask Candace Owens (who I support financially) what she thinks of this man?

If there is niggerism and he makes a very strong case for it, then there must be niggers who perpetrated it.  Just as communists perpetrate communism.  In 50 years if the word "communist" was a slur would you say "the C-Word", when you were taking about people who were actually communists.  I wouldn't.  Because that is being weak and lead by the nose like a dumb animal.

I don't call civilised black people niggers and I don't call civilised white people chavs or yobs.

These words specifically refer to barbaric behaviors of the barbaric subset.

Other words are degenerate, faggot, etc.  These are all useful and descriptive words.

If Sikhs and Hindus were beating up people and robbing teenagers of their trainers, breaking shop windows to loot and attacking the police for kicks then I would come up with and use words for them, but I don't need to because they are 99.9% civilized.  There is no chance I could ever get stabbed, robbed, mugged or beaten by a Sikh or a Hindu in Britain.

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General News and Discussion / Re: The Riots Thread

« Last post by Greg on Today at 05:05:52 AM »

The simple and observable fact of the matter is that the black community produces a level of savagery "Niggerism", that the white community simply does not produce.  Black people who are honest and civilised admit this.  Why can't you?

The same is true in London and most of the UK.  The chances of my getting stabbed by a white person are zero, in a majority white country.  The chances of my son being stabbed or threatened with a knife by a white person are close to zero.  Recently his friend was robbed of an expensive bike by two niggers, (in a town that is 98% white).  What are the odds?

ALL violent knife crime in London (muggings, robbing, street fights that end in fatal stabbings are black and Muslim) and Muslim here tends to mean middle east or Pakistani.

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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Racism as a Sin?

« Last post by Sempronius on Today at 05:03:53 AM »

Pictures of aborted babies offend people.  People get really angry about them.  I have seen it.   Is St. Paul saying we should not provoke by showing those?  If not, why not?

I guess we had different childhoods. I spent my entire childhood with africans and other imigrants. And it never crossed anybodys mind to use the n-word. There wasn’t even an urge.

What would Candace Owen think about your reasoning?

Regarding St Paul, to describe reality you need to use right words. If its murder, say its murder. But if black people have a higher risk to commit violence, then say so. No need to use the n-word. Everybody knows what your talking about.