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but do not give in to his effeminate and shameful behavior.

You have no idea whether it is effeminate or shameful. You have no idea what the argument is. Think about how many men with adult children are pedophiles, now think about whether or not they and their spouses should have a relationship with them. Life is full of crap and very messy. The jury should rest until there is more information.
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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: The "Silence" (2016) moral dilemma
« Last post by coffeeandcigarette on Today at 04:24:23 PM »
"Silence" is a film by Martin Scorsese, and follows the lives of two Jesuit missionaries in Japan who are spreading Catholicism. The Japanese government begins persecuting the Catholics who are there, torturing them and wanting them to denounce Christ. The Catholics hold steadfast knowing that their torture will be rewarded.

The Japanese begin to actually learn about Christianity, and they do something clever which poses a moral dilemma for those following the ethos of Christianity and being willing to suffer for the Faith.

The Japanese begin torturing others in front of the Catholic missionaries, and continue to torture others indefinitely until the missionaries themselves renounce Christ and quit converting others (the missionaries are held indefinitely and unable to do anything else), which leads to a lot of moral questioning and inner reflection on the Jesuit missionaries of why exactly they are there in the first place, leading them to question God.

The film, while not giving a crystal clear answer, claims that the truly Christ-like thing would be to renounce Christ for the sake of others - willing to condemn one's self to hell as long as others will not be tortured.

If you were put in this circumstance, what would the Christ-like thing to do? Would it be to continue to hold to God in light of limitless people being tortured? Or is it more moral to renounce God for the lives of others?

What is happening in that film is what happens in many films. They are trying to pull your emotional strings and be like, "oh, poor suffering people, a real Christian would save them by saying a few silly little words that mean nothing." If they knew what God had done for us, if they realized the magnificence of eternity and the beauty of heaven, there would be no question. You think that didn't happen in the arena? You think husbands didn't suffer watching their wives being raped, beaten, skinned alive, fed to lions, etc? They did, but they knew that in a very short period of time (relatively speaking) it would all be over and they would rejoice and praise God together for all eternity. You literally would have to close your eyes and pray, but there you go.
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Ask a Traditionalist / Re: Obedience to Husband vs. Honoring Parents
« Last post by dellery on Today at 04:20:52 PM »
Hi everyone,

I've been curious about something lately. Hypothetically, suppose there is a man who ceases to respect or honor one/both of his parents (due to recently taking sides in a family conflict, not due to any specific recent behavior on the parent's part as far as I know) -- is his wife obligated to condone this or even participate in the disrespect? How should a wife handle a situation where, out of the blue, the husband decrees that "the couple" is to shun, criticize, and even insult a parent/parent-in-law due to previously undisclosed family politics? Is there a way to both respect both one's husband's wishes while continuing to honor the parent(s)-in-law? Additionally, if the husband wishes "the family" to cut off all contact with this person (no specific reason given), is the wife obligated to do so against her conscience?

God Bless~

No!
A good wife will tell her husband to grow up and stop being a sissy.

Enabling your husband to act like an emotional pansy in not loyal, obedient, or charitable.

Keep your distance from the family in question being mindful to not make it appear as if you're choosing sides, but do not give in to his effeminate and shameful behavior.
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Hi everyone,

I've been curious about something lately. Hypothetically, suppose there is a man who ceases to respect or honor one/both of his parents (due to recently taking sides in a family conflict, not due to any specific recent behavior on the parent's part as far as I know) -- is his wife obligated to condone this or even participate in the disrespect? How should a wife handle a situation where, out of the blue, the husband decrees that "the couple" is to shun, criticize, and even insult a parent/parent-in-law due to previously undisclosed family politics? Is there a way to both respect both one's husband's wishes while continuing to honor the parent(s)-in-law? Additionally, if the husband wishes "the family" to cut off all contact with this person (no specific reason given), is the wife obligated to do so against her conscience?

God Bless~

Ok, this is tricky. First, are they your parents or his? He has more rights to cut-off relationship with his own parents than yours, it is his family. If it is your family, then the question becomes one of moral leadership. Is the shunning due to some bad influence that he feels will effect your family? I.e, the parents are sexual predators, thieves, religiously lax, etc. If he is shunning these people due to some moral hazard then he is acting as a moral leader for the family, justified. If however, this is super petty and he hates them out of the blue because his mom accidentally hung his Superman underwear on the line for the whole neighborhood to see, then he needs some guidance. In this case, I would ask him to see a priest about the matter. You trying to tell him how should be acting/feeling is probably not best. Now, the final point. I don't know what you mean about going along. If he says you are not going to their home, fine, if he says you are not inviting them over, fine; if he says you are not allowed to pray for them, problem. I would also not encourage you to go on any lynchings or tar-and-featherings. I highly doubt that is a possibility. We tend to conflate "honoring" parents with mingling at parties, BBQ's, coffee and donuts hours, talking on the phone, etc. That is not honoring. To honor one's parents when one if fully grown, is to wish them all moral good, to pray for them, and to aid them if they find themselves in serious difficulty. Cutting a parent out completely, as in no contact, no visits, no letters, no photos, etc can be justified. It does not mean you have ceased to honor these parents. You just can't have a tight-knit relationship with them. A little elaboration on the nature of the argument and the steps which the husband is taking to "shun" these people would be helpful in order to give better/more nuanced advice.
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Communism isn't a Russian error.

Maybe the work of French and British apostates and Jews from roughly the era of the Paris Commune to the later nineteenth century, but Communism moved from theory and ephemeral and occasional practice to a reality in Russia, and was exported from there as a product.

Communism didn't disappear from the West when it was exported to Russia.  The Communists in the West carried on with their project and have managed very well to undermine western society, with or without help from the Kremlin.

The long march through the institutions of the West would have happened without the Soviet Union, and still continues 20 years after its fall.

I donít think thatís right, and I know a lot of the history of Communism.  The CPUSA flourished during the Depression but would have dried up and blown away afterwards, except for massive financial support from the Soviet Union, for decades.  Only the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 stopped that support, and Marxism has been running on accumulated capital ever since. 

The left won the cultural war due to Freemasonic infiltration of the Church (Roncalli et al) and the resources of Russia enabling constant effort in the West.  Without Russia Marxís nonsense would be an historical footnote like the Georgists or the Distributists.

You're absolutely right, in general.
The funny thing is that the Fatima Secrets, whether true or false, don't have any bearing on this fact at all. Not anymore at least.

Anti-FatimistsÖ how nice, another immature and ridiculous denomination in the traditional Catholic movement.
How long until Anti-Fatimism becomes infallible dogma and anybody who believes in the Fatima Secrets are labelled (by lay-men of course) to be irredeemable heretics?

It's like a bunch of Prots are posing as Catholics trying to separate early-Church Tradition and practice from Catholicism itself.
Left unchecked these Catholics with qualification will try to pull Tradition straight into the depths of Protestantism and Americanism.

Funny how these Catholics with qualification find the Church's enemies of yesterday to be their friends today, as demonstrated by their long-term established posting history.
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Job Postings / Profitable side business/side work?
« Last post by christulsa on Today at 03:45:24 PM »
What are some profitable, smart ways for a working guy to supplement his income?   Side businesses, side work?  Letís say your minimum goal is an extra supplemental $20k a year not working long term many hours beyond your regular job schedule, maybe at first more hours and training.   One idea Iím researching for myself is a website teaching physical therapy continuing education courses, marketing to those states each year where therapists need to finish their bi-annual CEU requirements, but with much higher quality that typical CEUs and at a lower price.  Even uploading a few webinars on most currently relevant clinical topics, and sending out mailers a few times a year would likely be profitable. 

What ideas do you have?   Successes with side businesses or side work? 
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Communism isn't a Russian error.

Maybe the work of French and British apostates and Jews from roughly the era of the Paris Commune to the later nineteenth century, but Communism moved from theory and ephemeral and occasional practice to a reality in Russia, and was exported from there as a product.

Communism didn't disappear from the West when it was exported to Russia.  The Communists in the West carried on with their project and have managed very well to undermine western society, with or without help from the Kremlin.

The long march through the institutions of the West would have happened without the Soviet Union, and still continues 20 years after its fall.

I donít think thatís right, and I know a lot of the history of Communism.  The CPUSA flourished during the Depression but would have dried up and blown away afterwards, except for massive financial support from the Soviet Union, for decades.  Only the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 stopped that support, and Marxism has been running on accumulated capital ever since. 

The left won the cultural war due to Freemasonic infiltration of the Church (Roncalli et al) and the resources of Russia enabling constant effort in the West.  Without Russia Marxís nonsense would be an historical footnote like the Georgists or the Distributists.

You know the Trad/Fatimist version of the history of Communism. 

The Communist Manifesto was first published in 1848, in London, England, and although it was initially translated into several languages, Russian wasn't one of them to begin with.  Karl Marx had already been exiled from Germany on account of his agitations.  Communism as an idea was born in the West and propagated throughout the West by - westerners.  Communism didn't need help from the Kremlin in order to spread.  There were plenty of Western Marxists more than capable of pushing their ideas and plenty of them were highly critical of the Soviet Union. 

The history of the CPUSA is a sideshow.  Western Marxists have been busy infiltrating every institution on the West for decades but I doubt if many of them were Party members.  And only a minority wanted Soviet style Communism.

The left won the culture war, that's right, and they won it in the Church too.  The idea that the spread of Communism was dependent on the Soviet Union is an exaggeration to say the least.  That's not to say that the Kremlin didn't support armed revolutions in other nations.  They did that because they believed in Revolutionary Marxism and not the even more effective Cultural Marxism.  Stalin hated the Cultural Marxists.

The Marxism that won the culture war in the West is not the Revolutionary Marxism that seized control of Russia.  Perhaps you don't realise the antagonism that existed between the two.

Given how embarrassed a lot of Western Marxists were by the horrors of the Soviet Union, it is possible that Communism would be even more powerful today had the Russian Revolution never happened.  The Gulags and the mass graves helped tarnish Communism for decades. 

Have you found out whether or not the Secrets and the Angel Apparitions are approved?

Wonderful summation.

Now I'm beginning to wonder if the Lady in this Satanic apparition was against the errors of Russia because they were revolutionary marxists instead of the kinder and gentler cultural marxists!

Said somewhat tongue in cheek, but only to point out that anything is possible in these, for lack of a better word, platitudes spoken by the "Lady" and the ongoing serial created by Sister Lucia. Running in theaters near you for over 100 years now.

With no resolution in sight.

David Lynch never wanted to identify Laura Palmer's killer in Twin Peaks either. But the network made him do it in season 2. He could have gone on forever had kept the resolution out of it.

He could learn a lot from the Fatimists. They are excellent story tellers.

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Hi everyone,

I've been curious about something lately. Hypothetically, suppose there is a man who ceases to respect or honor one/both of his parents (due to recently taking sides in a family conflict, not due to any specific recent behavior on the parent's part as far as I know) -- is his wife obligated to condone this or even participate in the disrespect? How should a wife handle a situation where, out of the blue, the husband decrees that "the couple" is to shun, criticize, and even insult a parent/parent-in-law due to previously undisclosed family politics? Is there a way to both respect both one's husband's wishes while continuing to honor the parent(s)-in-law? Additionally, if the husband wishes "the family" to cut off all contact with this person (no specific reason given), is the wife obligated to do so against her conscience?

God Bless~
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General News and Discussion / Re: Chinese dropping like flies
« Last post by MaximGun on Today at 02:45:17 PM »
I guess that depends with whom you are neighbors.

The latest news - just off Twitter- The Chinese Paralympic team because of anticipated difficulties in organizing their training have already pulled out of the Tokyo Summer Games - according to their spokesperson, Lim Ping.

And the German 33 year old man working for the car parts company who caught the virus locally in Germany when an asymptomatic Chinese trainer flew in from HQ to hold a one day course recovered his full health in a single hour - however, he very soon found himself hungry for more power.
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General News and Discussion / Re: Chinese dropping like flies
« Last post by christulsa on Today at 02:21:05 PM »
The answer to that is this. Just seriously enough, that when your food suppliers, medicines, ammo, etc, etc, runs out everyone in a 100/200/400 yard radius of your house is already dead or in a government camp being fed. You don't have to outrun the lion, just the first person the lion catches and eats.  Because then he is chewing on them and you can calmly walk away.

Most people have done ZERO prep.  So any prep is a headstart.

Sounds like some serious prep, for that kind of scenario.  Everyone nearby either dead or in a gov't camp.  That would be on the level of the Great Chastisement, so that level of prep would warrant a certain degree of certainty we are in or near the End Times, or something akin to it.   I've read enough of the prophesies to think it's very possible or likely if not certain, so I suppose what you imply is right, that we need to do hard core prep beyond just filling our pantries.  And I can appreciate the godliness of standing behind your sandwich board chuckling a bit as the world goes down in flames, giving thanks for God's vengeance He promises against His enemies (who are the enemies of orthodox, Catholic Christians living upright lives in grace).  If done in humility.
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