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Title: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: lauermar on January 12, 2021, 10:58:12 PM
I'm hearing news that people associated with helping Trump---staff, lawyers, congressmen and women, journalists and others---are being threatened with losing their jobs, being disbarred (Mike Levin), losing their credit, not being allowed to fly, and other sanctions. Some of the talking heads at CNN are suggesting re-education camps for voters.

How far can they get away with this? Do you think they can uncover our ballots, and have our mortgages cancelled? Can we all be blacklisted for voting for Trump, even if we didn't contribute to his campaign? I'm seeing the purge on social media, but I wondered if they would reach into our social media accounts to have us blackballed.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: King Wenceslas on January 13, 2021, 12:36:18 AM

When the country is governed by one party for the foreseeable future, they can do anything they want too. Keep a low profile is my advice.

Badge, what badge? I don't need no stinking badge.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: lauermar on January 13, 2021, 08:33:10 AM

Badge, what badge? I don't need no stinking badge.

What in hell?
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: OzarkCatholic on January 13, 2021, 09:45:52 AM
I'm hearing news that people associated with helping Trump---staff, lawyers, congressmen and women, journalists and others---are being threatened with losing their jobs, being disbarred (Mike Levin), losing their credit, not being allowed to fly, and other sanctions. Some of the talking heads at CNN are suggesting re-education camps for voters.

How far can they get away with this? Do you think they can uncover our ballots, and have our mortgages cancelled? Can we all be blacklisted for voting for Trump, even if we didn't contribute to his campaign? I'm seeing the purge on social media, but I wondered if they would reach into our social media accounts to have us blackballed.

In times like these it's important to be level-headed. I picture it somewhat like an earthquake, with Trump at the epicenter. The closer in proximity you are to him & his (perceived or actual) culpability in the Jan 6th rally/protest/coup/insurrection/whatever, the more likely you may face sanctions.

This is most acutely seen in arrests of persons who stole items from offices, or trespassed into house chambers wantonly, at times with arms or restraints and tactical or pseudo-tactical gear. "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck..." that sort of thing.

On the rhetorical side, those lawmakers, whose sworn duty is to uphold and defend the constitution, who placed themselves rhetorically near the protests (Cruz, Hawley, and others), are also more likely to face blowback than say a state rep from Missouri who merely questioned the veracity of voting following November 3rd.

And then you have some Trump voters, like my Aunt, who after Jan 6th say, "he just needs to go." I find it difficult to believe that 'the left' will parse voting records, deduce she voted for Trump twice, and therefore place sanctions on her. It just does not make sense.

Democrats, like Republicans, remain corporatists at their core, and they want a 'good market'. The market hates uncertainty, and a half-baked plan to 'punish' every Trump voter is likely not only impossible, but would cause a massive bout of uncertainty in the markets, which both the left and right do not want (and I find it hard to believe the far left does as well, for that matter).

This conspiracy-mongering is what got good, pro-life voters, and good, faithful Catholics where we are; we need to take pause, pray, and look at the field before us with a clear mind.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: james03 on January 13, 2021, 10:42:24 AM
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How far can they get away with this?
  Under a Marxist revolution, they go as far as they want.

As far as the 80 MM voters, too hard.  In the future, being registered as a Repub. can cause societal problems, like forcing you to go to reeducation classes where you denounce yourself and confess how evil you are.  We're probably 10 years out.

But learn the lesson of the fear you now feel.  Move to flyover country when employment allows you to do it.  Don't register as a Repub and be careful who you associate with.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: lauermar on January 13, 2021, 10:51:08 AM
@Ozark, thank you for that. I am in camp with your aunt.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: clau clau on January 13, 2021, 10:54:02 AM

Badge, what badge? I don't need no stinking badge.

What the hell?

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Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: lauermar on January 13, 2021, 11:37:57 AM
Ok thanks. My husband explained this to me.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: Miriam_M on January 13, 2021, 01:08:20 PM
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How far can they get away with this?
  Under a Marxist revolution, they go as far as they want.

As far as the 80 MM voters, too hard.  In the future, being registered as a Repub. can cause societal problems, like forcing you to go to reeducation classes where you denounce yourself and confess how evil you are.  We're probably 10 years out.

But learn the lesson of the fear you now feel.  Move to flyover country when employment allows you to do it.  Don't register as a Repub and be careful who you associate with.

Before the election, my "profile" was apolitical.  It continues to be.  When my family and friends try to incite to hatred, I protest disinterest.  All of my political opinions are shared only with trusted intimates, such as other traditional Catholics, who also never discuss their political views in pubic or with anyone of unknown position.  It requires a great deal of discipline to maintain not only this, but to refuse to access political news.  We need to remember that it's hard to start fires with no fuel.

When associates seem to demand a "stand" from me, I simply tell them that the entire political scene is simply too contentious for my soul and psyche, and that I am withdrawing from it for my own health.  If they again demand to know my political preferences, I claim ignorance and indecision, telling them that I'll decide whom to vote for in the next election, which is not now.

As to lauermar's questions about pursuing Trump supporters or just Republicans, I think the Left can't be bothered with small fry voters with no public persona.  They care about activists, candidates, and the current opposition.  I almost never post to my FB account, despite dozens of notifications, regularly.  I have never weighed in on political matters on FB, and I ignore all of the predictable hatred of Trump from, sadly, so many of my friends and associates who invite me to look at their FB pages filled with Trump haters. 

I think the hatred is an enormous temptation for us (to respond to, to join), but we need to remember that hatred is from the Devil, and it is his tool for division and all kinds of mortal sin, including interior mortal sin.

So my public persona is pacifist, clueless, and of no consequence to anyone in power.  The only thing I do now is pray that some election officials and governors (overseeing elections, appointing officials, etc.), as well as judges, grow a spine and a conscience because without election changes, we will become a permanent dystopia until the Second Coming.  It doesn't matter if Trump or anyone similar returns with a roar in 2024 if the fix is permanently in because of weak-willed or complicit fraud artists and co-conspirators.  It's sickening, but it's an opportunity to work on my salvation.

That said, I admire anyone here who will continue to fight more publicly than I.  I'm not suggesting that everyone adopt my response; mine is just necessary for my self-preservation, since my sense of injustice is absolutely overwhelming*, and if I think about it too much, it may begin to affect my physical health.

*(When Newt Gingrich first got wind of the election fraud, he said that he had never been so angry in his entire life.)
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: Tennessean on January 13, 2021, 01:28:42 PM
The market hates uncertainty, and a half-baked plan to 'punish' every Trump voter is likely not only impossible, but would cause a massive bout of uncertainty in the markets, which both the left and right do not want (and I find it hard to believe the far left does as well, for that matter).
Everybody on facebook is ratting on themselves already. We have a surveillance state in place where people report on themselves. All that's left is implementing the social credit system, which is up to Microsoft, Chase, and our new Congress. We can keep moving the goal posts and dismiss what's going on right in front of us, or accept reality is now policed in virtual space, and that virtual space is defined by Alphabet and Microsoft.

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This conspiracy-mongering is what got good, pro-life voters, and good, faithful Catholics where we are; we need to take pause, pray, and look at the field before us with a clear mind.
There's no conspiracy, nothing illegal's been done. Private companies just deplatform dissent, cut your paypal, run propaganda about you 24/7, and take you to court to bake the damn cake. This is the American Way, comrade.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: red solo cup on January 13, 2021, 06:27:46 PM
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How far can they get away with this?
  Under a Marxist revolution, they go as far as they want.

As far as the 80 MM voters, too hard.  In the future, being registered as a Repub. can cause societal problems, like forcing you to go to reeducation classes where you denounce yourself and confess how evil you are.  We're probably 10 years out.

But learn the lesson of the fear you now feel.  Move to flyover country when employment allows you to do it.  Don't register as a Repub and be careful who you associate with.
http://www.westernjournal.com/pbs-fires-counsel-caught-video-wanting-trump-supporters-kids-re-education-camps/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2021-01-13&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR0fV18FL12iqFSrhhoC8NCqTfOUpPi4xG-rBpDBetyuedCTIG6eQMC0lx0
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: TradGranny on January 13, 2021, 06:40:08 PM
I think the Left can't be bothered with small fry voters with no public persona.  They care about activists, candidates, and the current opposition.  I almost never post to my FB account, despite dozens of notifications, regularly.  I have never weighed in on political matters on FB, and I ignore all of the predictable hatred of Trump from, sadly, so many of my friends and associates who invite me to look at their FB pages filled with Trump haters. 

So my public persona is pacifist, clueless, and of no consequence to anyone in power. 

satanic revolutionaries, whether the French revolution or any of the Communist revolutions are out to kill Christians. They are using "Trump supporters" as a cover for their true agenda -- to kill Christians. Read The Cross and the Guillotine by Warren Carroll.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: TradGranny on January 13, 2021, 06:52:43 PM
I picture it somewhat like an earthquake, with Trump at the epicenter. The closer in proximity you are to him & his (perceived or actual) culpability in the Jan 6th rally/protest/coup/insurrection/whatever, the more likely you may face sanctions.

What you say is true, for now. However, having recently been reading about the French Revolution by a Catholic author, it's become clear that what we are seeing now is the same as the beginning of that satanic Jacobin revolution.

To simplify what was quite complex:
First they went after King Louie,
and those closest to him, his family and the loyalists who protected him.
Then they went after ALL the loyalists.
Then they went after Catholic priests who represented the old order.
Then they went after the nuns.
They they went after anyone who objected to the massive number of murders.
Then they went after anyone who supported a trial prior to beheading.
At the end, they went after the leaders of their own murderous plot.

One observer of the day said:
Everyone thought they would be safe if they just kept feeding the alligator.

I was reminded of this quote when I saw the traitorous Republicans trying to feed the alligator. They think they will be safe. That's both sad and funny.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: King Wenceslas on January 13, 2021, 07:50:39 PM

Badge, what badge? I don't need no stinking badge.

What in hell?

It means the rule of law is over with. The Demoncrats control the Presidency, the courts, the Congress. Anyone who doesn't play ball with them will be expunged from society. January 6th was a gift from hell for the Demoncrats.

Law, what law, I don't need no stinking law. (Hope that is better.)
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: lauermar on January 13, 2021, 07:51:01 PM
Excellent advice Miriam!

Speaking of the market not liking uncertainty, it looks like the Big Tech propagandists have suffered a serious drop in the value of their companies since dropping Trump, Parler and other conservative bloggers. Poetic justice that!   :trainwreck:

Maybe the best way to beat back evildoers is to give them enough rope to hang themselves.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/twitter-and-facebook-have-seen-2451-billion-in-combined-market-value-wiped-out-since-booting-trump-from-their-platforms/ar-BB1cITbO?ocid=uxbndlbing

Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: King Wenceslas on January 13, 2021, 07:56:54 PM

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There's no conspiracy, nothing illegal's been done. Private companies just deplatform dissent, cut your paypal, run propaganda about you 24/7, and take you to court to bake the damn cake. This is the American Way, comrade.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: lauermar on January 13, 2021, 08:14:32 PM
I picture it somewhat like an earthquake, with Trump at the epicenter. The closer in proximity you are to him & his (perceived or actual) culpability in the Jan 6th rally/protest/coup/insurrection/whatever, the more likely you may face sanctions.

What you say is true, for now. However, having recently been reading about the French Revolution by a Catholic author, it's become clear that what we are seeing now is the same as the beginning of that satanic Jacobin revolution.

To simplify what was quite complex:
First they went after King Louie,
and those closest to him, his family and the loyalists who protected him.
Then they went after ALL the loyalists.
Then they went after Catholic priests who represented the old order.
Then they went after the nuns.
They they went after anyone who objected to the massive number of murders.
Then they went after anyone who supported a trial prior to beheading.
At the end, they went after the leaders of their own murderous plot.

One observer of the day said:
Everyone thought they would be safe if they just kept feeding the alligator.

I was reminded of this quote when I saw the traitorous Republicans trying to feed the alligator. They think they will be safe. That's both sad and funny.

Hey Granny, I saw a German movie (with English subtitles) from 2005 called Sophie Scholl: The Final Days. Sophie and her brother were fighting the Nazi regime in 1940 as students and they were beheaded for it. When Sophie went to trial, she spoke boldly in a way I've seen prolifers speak. Sophie was Protestant. Everything you describe above is what the Nazi regime did. It was chilling.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sophie+scholl+trailer&docid=608000003427012539&mid=707CA830D09BED58F815707CA830D09BED58F815&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: diaduit on January 14, 2021, 04:50:04 AM
How can republicans find a backbone to stand up to the Dems if their supporters on the ground are going dark?

Not getting at ye, I'm doing the same here but I feel bad for Ted Cruz and all the others close to Trump who are going to get beat up metaphorically.

I see that the camps have been made - Covid or fringe camp.  Those who were against the lockdown like most of us here have been trying to wake people up to this lunacy.  Just before Christmas when the hype started about the vaccine arrival here in Ireland and it was very real for the population I saw a change in the people around me.  Those who didn't have any real issue with lockdown plus those who believe 100% in the deadly disease Covid have set their eyes on the end goal of vaccination as getting them out of this nightmare.  They strapped on the blinkers and are point blank refusing to engage in any mild discussion about this being bs.
I've withdrawn from any real effort of trying to change people against the lockdown (I still try to change their minds about taking the vaccine)  The camps have been made, metaphorically speaking and those who want the vaccine are kind of recruiting the rest of us by all their positive chat on the shot.  If you show dissent they are get annoyed with you as they see you as the reason they're still shackled.   Literally in discussion, its like rabbit in headlights and complete silence if you say something totally logical and it doesn't go into the brain but bounces off their foreheads .  I've had no visits from my neighbours, my friends of 25 years plus haven't engaged with me at all, extended family are like ghosts.  God always provides though, I've made new friends who are on the same page so I'm not alone.

Withdraw quietly and prepare .....have your network and pray.
Title: Re: Can they get away with sanctioning voters?
Post by: Lynne on January 14, 2021, 05:14:14 AM

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