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Title: Forum improvements?
Post by: Kaesekopf on October 30, 2018, 06:36:21 PM
What's some stuff you all would like to see happen around here to make it a livelier joint?

I've noticed activity has been slipping. 

Open to ideas all across the board. 

No personal attacks to me.  :P 
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Jacob on October 30, 2018, 08:04:42 PM
I have a suggestion.  I'd like to see what others say before making it.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Maximilian on October 30, 2018, 09:14:53 PM

What's some stuff you all would like to see happen around here to make it a livelier joint?

I've noticed activity has been slipping. 

Yes, I've noticed too that activity has diminished greatly. I'm afraid there's nothing you can do unless you are secretly a cardinal with a vote in the conclave.

People are losing hope. It's like being in the bunker with Hitler. It's not much fun debating whether it will be 1 month or 2 months until the Russians show up in Berlin.

It has been demonstrated endlessly here on SD and elsewhere that the phoney pontificates of JPII and BXVI were an illusion. However, sometimes we need to cling to false hope when there isn't any other. Today with Francis, and the renewed scandal attacks on the Church, and the lack of any light on the horizon in any direction, there doesn't seem to be any hope at all.

Sometimes I long for those more innocent naive days when I still believed that JPII was going to restore the Church "any day now." 


P.S. Even this video is much more depressing than I realized. I posted it here because the many dozens of times that I heard it on the radio I always thought that it said:
"Oh, what I would not give for false hope now."
but today I find out that the actual lyrics are:
"No, I would not give you false hope, no."
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Heinrich on October 30, 2018, 10:42:12 PM
Kick out atheists. You know who I am talking about. Especially that insidious little culture ham.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Kaesekopf on October 31, 2018, 03:00:29 AM
Kick out atheists. You know who I am talking about. Especially that insidious little culture ham.
The atheists have been very inactive the last ... what, couple of months?

And yet activity remains low.  If anything, we can credit atheists with some forum activity.  ;)

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Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: red solo cup on October 31, 2018, 05:27:29 AM
Ask Gregg and Jayne to put aside their differences and return to the forum. They've both made their point.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: clau clau on October 31, 2018, 06:58:51 AM
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Lynne on October 31, 2018, 08:31:46 AM
Kick out atheists. You know who I am talking about. Especially that insidious little culture ham.
The atheists have been very inactive the last ... what, couple of months?

And yet activity remains low.

Their work is complete. Yay!

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If anything, we can credit atheists with some forum activity.  ;)


That's a good business model for a trad forum.  :cheeseheadbeer:
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Xavier on October 31, 2018, 09:28:38 AM
I think it ebbs and flows based on whether major Church and world events are happening. Forum activity may temporarily seem to be down somewhat, but if something interesting happens, probably everyone will be posting and active again. And then it may be too much to handle!

Also, some traditionalists may be understandably battle-weary or just fatigued at bad news; maybe it is naivete, but I'm still hopeful. There are some good things happening. Let us all strive to fulfil the duties of our state and be apostles of prayer; other things will take care of themselves. I doubt there will be any permanent decline in forum activity.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Kaesekopf on October 31, 2018, 09:32:27 AM
I think it ebbs and flows based on whether major Church and world events are happening. Forum activity may temporarily seem to be down somewhat, but if something interesting happens, probably everyone will be posting and active again. And then it may be too much to handle!

Also, some traditionalists may be understandably battle-weary or just fatigued at bad news; maybe it is naivete, but I'm still hopeful. There are some good things happening. Let us all strive to fulfil the duties of our state and be apostles of prayer; other things will take care of themselves. I doubt there will be any permanent decline in forum activity.

So, how then, does this forum serve traditional Catholics to be boosted in their spiritual life?  Is there anything like that to be done by a forum?  Or is that proper to the church and only the church/spiritual writers/etc? 

How can we make this place more interesting to come to when there isn't some drama or news about Rome or the chanceries?
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Kaesekopf on October 31, 2018, 09:33:47 AM
Kick out atheists. You know who I am talking about. Especially that insidious little culture ham.
The atheists have been very inactive the last ... what, couple of months?

And yet activity remains low.

Their work is complete. Yay!

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If anything, we can credit atheists with some forum activity.  ;)


That's a good business model for a trad forum.  :cheeseheadbeer:

So, if I ban them, you all will post more?...   :cheeseheadbeer:
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Heinrich on October 31, 2018, 12:24:14 PM
Kick out atheists. You know who I am talking about. Especially that insidious little culture ham.
The atheists have been very inactive the last ... what, couple of months?

And yet activity remains low.

Their work is complete. Yay!

Quote
If anything, we can credit atheists with some forum activity.  ;)


That's a good business model for a trad forum.  :cheeseheadbeer:

So, if I ban them, you all will post more?...   :cheeseheadbeer:

Who are "them"? You asked that prior.

To answer your question, probably. There seems to be a decided upon inclination for at least two of these goons to post antagonistic threads or replies. "What if Theistic Evolution were true?" F--that for a topic on a Catholic forum. Question may appear innocuous enough, but the ethos of the poster and "arguant" is the poison.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Jacob on October 31, 2018, 12:46:09 PM
Ask Gregg and Jayne to put aside their differences and return to the forum. They've both made their point.

This is my suggestion as well.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Heinrich on October 31, 2018, 12:57:00 PM
Ask Gregg and Jayne to put aside their differences and return to the forum. They've both made their point.

This is my suggestion as well.

Laus, Jovan, and Bonaventure are missed, too. Whatever happened to Walty?
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Kaesekopf on October 31, 2018, 02:43:21 PM
Ask Gregg and Jayne to put aside their differences and return to the forum. They've both made their point.

This is my suggestion as well.

Laus, Jovan, and Bonaventure are missed, too. Whatever happened to Walty?

Laus is done posting on forums.  Jovan runs a blog but was never super active here.  Bonaventure is a hobo (:lol:) and Walty has life/family/work pulling him away from the Forum.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: MundaCorMeum on October 31, 2018, 02:46:30 PM
You want me to start a natural vs. medicated childbirth thread???  I will do it!   ;D
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: mikemac on October 31, 2018, 08:16:25 PM
What's some stuff you all would like to see happen around here to make it a livelier joint?

I've noticed activity has been slipping. 

Open to ideas all across the board. 

No personal attacks to me.  :P

Well maybe if you didn't encourage blatant attacks on approved apparitions.  I know some people have left the forum for that reason alone.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Kaesekopf on October 31, 2018, 09:32:27 PM
What's some stuff you all would like to see happen around here to make it a livelier joint?

I've noticed activity has been slipping. 

Open to ideas all across the board. 

No personal attacks to me.  :P

Well maybe if you didn't encourage blatant attacks on approved apparitions.  I know some people have left the forum for that reason alone.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Chestertonian on October 31, 2018, 11:33:30 PM
You want me to start a natural vs. medicated childbirth thread???  I will do it!   ;D

It all depends on whether the woman is wearing pants.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Davis Blank - EG on November 01, 2018, 02:18:34 AM
Men like action.  The forum could collectively take on a mission such as evangelization / apologetics through whatever means.  Writing, youtubing, comboxing, blogging, Twittering, or even street evangelization on specific days (and then we share with each other here how it went).  A small little organization targeted towards some goal.

Goal Examples:

- evangelization to Protestants
- evangelization to atheists
- evangelization to NO Catholics
- independent street evangelization (and share stories together here afterwards)
- writing campaigns to parishes to fix their liturgy
- writing campaigns to bishops to man up

I think the internal debates had on this forum are generally toxic.  Part of that is the nature of the times and all of us trying to make sense of how this all holds together.  But even as such, I think much of it ends up being scandalous.  To me, at least, it is damaging to see so many with widely varying beliefs - Fatima is from God / from the devil, EENS is true / its a heresy, Francis is the Pope / he's the antipope, NO is licit / its not licit, VII was valid / its a robber council, etc etc.

The positives of the forum are the Q/A aspect of it, the advice threads, the news discussion and the friendly chats.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Xavier on November 01, 2018, 04:33:49 AM
Don't forget prayer crusades. To me, that's the best aspect of this forum, that we can unite in prayer with many Traditional Catholics from around the globe. We should have specific purposes and express intentions to ask for, all for God's glory and for the Church's victory, and persevere in collective prayer till we see God's Triumph come in that area, which will always happen sooner or later.

We could have one specifically for the Tridentine Mass to return quickly to parishes worldwide. We could pray something like the Holy Wounds Chaplet round the clock for that intention. Or Litanies and offerings of the Precious Blood as St. Gertrude and St. Faustina have taught us obtain very much grace from God. Or we could have something like the Hours as they do in seminaries, convents and monasteries.

Starting this month and continuing indefinitely, we could have an indefinite prayer campaign to empty Purgatory forever. We have of course some things like that, but we should all support and participate in them with great zeal. Then we will see victories come thick and fast.

I agree with Davis about evangelism/apologetics. That's very important.

The advice threads, the prayer intentions forum, the traditional spirituality discussions, the liturgical and other devotions stuff are also great imo. We should have more of that.

Different Catholics I guess are attracted to one or more of the above. There'll be something for everybody.

Edit: And sorry, but allowing people to say publicly on the forum that Our Lady of Fatima is a deception of the devil is imho totally wrong and likely, as Mike says, a great discouragement to many Catholics who would otherwise participate more. We should not question sacred things which our ancestors held in esteem. No one began questioning Our Lady of Fatima till some few years ago. One of them has expressed doubt about basic Christian doctrines and the supernatural. That's what is likely to happen when we deny a public miracle that was a great grace from God and Our Lady to the One True Church. We should rather be praising God for this favor saying "He has not done in like manner for every nation" as the Psalmist says; it is a great grace of God to be guided by Our Lord and Our Lady in every generation. Given only to us Catholics.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Innocent Smith on November 01, 2018, 09:41:58 AM
Men like action.  The forum could collectively take on a mission such as evangelization / apologetics through whatever means.  Writing, youtubing, comboxing, blogging, Twittering, or even street evangelization on specific days (and then we share with each other here how it went).  A small little organization targeted towards some goal.

Goal Examples:

- evangelization to Protestants
- evangelization to atheists
- evangelization to NO Catholics
- independent street evangelization (and share stories together here afterwards)
- writing campaigns to parishes to fix their liturgy
- writing campaigns to bishops to man up

I think the internal debates had on this forum are generally toxic.  Part of that is the nature of the times and all of us trying to make sense of how this all holds together.  But even as such, I think much of it ends up being scandalous.  To me, at least, it is damaging to see so many with widely varying beliefs - Fatima is from God / from the devil, EENS is true / its a heresy, Francis is the Pope / he's the antipope, NO is licit / its not licit, VII was valid / its a robber council, etc etc.

The positives of the forum are the Q/A aspect of it, the advice threads, the news discussion and the friendly chats.

You're on the right track here. But I think it even needs a little, shall we say, testosterone.

That might mean getting in the face of prelates and trying to find ways to take the Church back from them before all the property gets sold off to pay lawsuits. Or at least find ways of protecting it.

St. Patrick took care of the snakes in Ireland. It's time for a saint to emerge, or a collective of men on the way to sainthood, to rid the Church of all the homosexuals. Which are the snakes of our day.

Voris, and jerkoffs like him, can't wait for RICO hearings to take away all the property. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your own face.

Constant threads about Marian apparitions are grating and toxic. Because most are BS.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Philip G. on November 01, 2018, 09:59:15 PM
I think an improvement could be the creation of a recent topics section.  I liked using Cathinfo's recent topics function.  But, I have never really liked using this forums type which is a "recent posts" function.  Perhaps consider having both options for the forum.  Or, if you only want to have only one "recent" function, ask the forum its thoughts on the matter/if a switch might be a good idea.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Davis Blank - EG on November 02, 2018, 10:34:11 AM
Another example mission would be to pass out liturgy info cards at parish carparks.  I have in mind little postcard or prayer card size notes that we can slip under windshield wipers.  These notes would be on individual liturgy-related matters, such as:

- Communion in the hand
- Eucharistic ministers
- Versus populum
- Altars
- Tabernacle location
- The sacrifice of the Mass

etc

Nothing combative, just information to show how the liturgy can be made more pious.  The cards are cheap as chips to print up, the cost primarily comes from shipping and then the labor in having people go and plaster parish carparks on Sundays.

Anyways, I think rallying the forum around some actions to be taken is a good idea.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Miriam_M on November 02, 2018, 12:39:52 PM
Another example mission would be to pass out liturgy info cards at parish carparks.  I have in mind little postcard or prayer card size notes that we can slip under windshield wipers.  These notes would be on individual liturgy-related matters, such as:

- Communion in the hand
- Eucharistic ministers
- Versus populum
- Altars
- Tabernacle location
- The sacrifice of the Mass

etc



This is not meant to be critical, but rather constructive.  I haven't seen, in my experience, polemics succeed, such as written or oral material criticizing aspects of the N.O. -- especially from a distance.  You say it's not "combative," but I'm afraid that those uninitiated to Tradition generally regard it as such, and react defensively or dismissively if they're laypeople, angrily if they're priests.  They don't know anything else than what they've been doing (in most cases), so we are criticizing their experience and knowledge base if they have no context.

I try instead to be a "woman of action" myself by personally and gently inviting others to the Latin Mass.  How/when do I do that?  By occasionally attending a N.O. when I don't have to sacrifice the TLM to do so, such as a Saturday "vigil Mass."  I just offer it up.  I behave reverently.  In my case that means I dress differently from all the other women there, and I pray my rosary ahead of time,etc.  For a guy that could mean also dressing differently but especially behaving differently (not talking, not acting like you're at a spectator sport), bringing your missal, kneeling, maybe even visiting the confessional beforehand.  It's a great witness. 

Then I stay after Mass.  First, of course, I greet the priest and start up a conversation about his background.  Inevitably, he asks about mine, and notices that I'm "new to the parish."  I explain I happen to be at this Mass today, but normally I'm at X Mass and thoroughly enjoy it; it has changed my life.  The conversation never stops there.  The priest is curious, wants to know more; wants the names of the priest or priests who celebrate there, etc.  I openly invite him to join us.

This sometimes happens with lay people as well.  And there's a particular N.O. parish near my work on Saturday.  I sometimes hang out there (when I can) and do what I describe above.  People are beginning to be more curious about me.

In addition, some apostolates have their own flyers/brochures/pamphlets about their Latin Mass. I sometimes leave a few in the pew, because again -- it's not a criticism of the N.O. or implied criticism of those attending.  It's an invitation.  When they accept the invitation, they will learn why CITH and Eucharistic Ministers are so wrong and it won't be a matter of logical argumentation.
 :)

Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Gardener on November 02, 2018, 03:56:34 PM
Another example mission would be to pass out liturgy info cards at parish carparks.  I have in mind little postcard or prayer card size notes that we can slip under windshield wipers.  These notes would be on individual liturgy-related matters, such as:

- Communion in the hand
- Eucharistic ministers
- Versus populum
- Altars
- Tabernacle location
- The sacrifice of the Mass

etc



This is not meant to be critical, but rather constructive.  I haven't seen, in my experience, polemics succeed, such as written or oral material criticizing aspects of the N.O. -- especially from a distance.  You say it's not "combative," but I'm afraid that those uninitiated to Tradition generally regard it as such, and react defensively or dismissively if they're laypeople, angrily if they're priests.  They don't know anything else than what they've been doing (in most cases), so we are criticizing their experience and knowledge base if they have no context.

I try instead to be a "woman of action" myself by personally and gently inviting others to the Latin Mass.  How/when do I do that?  By occasionally attending a N.O. when I don't have to sacrifice the TLM to do so, such as a Saturday "vigil Mass."  I just offer it up.  I behave reverently.  In my case that means I dress differently from all the other women there, and I pray my rosary ahead of time,etc.  For a guy that could mean also dressing differently but especially behaving differently (not talking, not acting like you're at a spectator sport), bringing your missal, kneeling, maybe even visiting the confessional beforehand.  It's a great witness. 

Then I stay after Mass.  First, of course, I greet the priest and start up a conversation about his background.  Inevitably, he asks about mine, and notices that I'm "new to the parish."  I explain I happen to be at this Mass today, but normally I'm at X Mass and thoroughly enjoy it; it has changed my life.  The conversation never stops there.  The priest is curious, wants to know more; wants the names of the priest or priests who celebrate there, etc.  I openly invite him to join us.

This sometimes happens with lay people as well.  And there's a particular N.O. parish near my work on Saturday.  I sometimes hang out there (when I can) and do what I describe above.  People are beginning to be more curious about me.

In addition, some apostolates have their own flyers/brochures/pamphlets about their Latin Mass. I sometimes leave a few in the pew, because again -- it's not a criticism of the N.O. or implied criticism of those attending.  It's an invitation.  When they accept the invitation, they will learn why CITH and Eucharistic Ministers are so wrong and it won't be a matter of logical argumentation.
 :)

I got to experience this approach today.

We have an older woman on my team. So, as team lead I've been training her. We went up to the cafeteria today and I was looking around. Nothing which was Keto and Friday friendly that struck my fancy. She got pepperoni pizza and some French fries. As she was checking out she asked why I didn't get pizza, as I'd mentioned maybe "cheating" on Keto today. Since they didn't have cheese pizza available, I said because it's Friday. She asked what I meant and I explained I don't eat meat on Fridays. She says, "Oh, we only do that in Lent. Is that part of your religion?" I affirmed and said that it's done in Catholicism. I had suspected she is Catholic as she is Irish to the hilt, but hadn't asked.

She looked shocked and said, "You're Catholic? I went to Catholic schools my whole life and I didn't know this!" (I'd have figured my St. Therese of Liseux brown scapular might have given it away prior, but oh well).

So I briefly explained that under 1983 code of canon law it's optional outside of Lent, but a penance isn't optional. She was sort of upset and said, "Why didn't anyone ever tell me this!?" So I made a brief comment that the Bishops and Priests of the last 50 years have done a bang up job of not actually teaching these things.

When we got back to the room, I sent her an article explaining: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/steven-greydanus/meatless-fridays

She said thanks and proceeded to read it.

All the sudden she basically shouts, "I'm doing this from now on! I had no idea!"

Truth works, if you're not an ass about it and the person is disposed to it. We cannot control whether grace is given, nor can we control the other's disposition. But we can control ourselves.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Davis Blank - EG on November 03, 2018, 10:24:29 AM
Both of you made great points and offered wonderful witnesses.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Heinrich on November 03, 2018, 01:53:32 PM
For Miriam and G.:
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Miriam_M on November 04, 2018, 01:26:47 AM
How sweet, Heinrich.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Christe Eleison on November 06, 2018, 01:42:47 PM
For Miriam and G.:


I love it, Heinrich  :thumbsup: Thank you!
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Josephine87 on November 06, 2018, 04:11:54 PM
One suggestion:  Put the "thanks" button at the bottom of a post so I don't have to scroll back up to thank it.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: OCLittleFlower on November 06, 2018, 06:19:28 PM
Definitely bring back Greg and Jayne.  I miss them both.

Other than that -- a pants thread and perhaps a singing contest!
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Gardener on November 06, 2018, 07:13:59 PM
I thought Greg and Jayne left of mutual agreement?
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Non Nobis on November 07, 2018, 12:05:03 AM
I thought Greg and Jayne left of mutual agreement?

Sure, but Kaesekopf should somehow peacefully force them to come back  ;D.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Non Nobis on November 07, 2018, 12:58:48 AM
Maybe it will get better here in 2020, when Trump runs again.  We had such fun in chat on election night 2016 (and a lot of debate before that)!   It's election night 2018 right now, but it is just not the same.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Philip G. on November 26, 2018, 11:02:46 PM
Here is my imput.  Two of the rules were a stumbling block for me when I discerned joining the forum(a month long process).  And, the result for me was that I would just avoid those subjects.  And, even if I didn't happen to avoid them, I was not going to expect much action/response, as a result of the rules and how they not only affect me but potentially others also.  And, the two rules I am referring to regard trad bashing and sedevacantism.  I love all of the other rules, but there is something not quite right in my opinion about those two rules.  If they can be focused and improved, it may result in greater forum membership and activity. 
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Kaesekopf on November 26, 2018, 11:07:02 PM
Here is my imput.  Two of the rules were a stumbling block for me when I discerned joining the forum(a month long process).  And, the result for me was that I would just avoid those subjects.  And, even if I didn't happen to avoid them, I was not going to expect much action/response, as a result of the rules and how they not only affect me but potentially others also.  And, the two rules I am referring to regard trad bashing and sedevacantism.  I love all of the other rules, but there is something not quite right in my opinion about those two rules.  If they can be focused and improved, it may result in greater forum membership and activity.

Any suggestions?  I'm open to listening/alterations.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Philip G. on November 27, 2018, 02:17:38 AM
Rule - "Likewise, insinuating that certain trads or groups of trads are not really Catholic will not be tolerated"

Rule - "I do not say that the pope is not the pope... but I do not say that you cannot say the pope is not the pope".

For one who does not believe that a pope can be a formal heretic, it is only natural to have a problem with these rules.  And, I mean this in the sense that none can judge popes; hence no formal heresy and no loss of office, all of which are stops long before one reaches sedevacantism.

But, enough about me.  It is your forum Kaesekopf.  I am on the lookout though for some penance to do for it. 









Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Miriam_M on March 22, 2019, 01:18:22 PM
A separate sub-forum for Private Revelation.  Therein can be contained the volumes of spam posting regarding that. More importantly, however, users would see that it is not mainstream Catholicism, nor doctrine, and thus does not rise to the level of mandated belief and universally recommended piety.

Users could post there to their heart's content and in keeping with their apparently enormous amount of time to do so.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: clau clau on March 22, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
The key for me is interesting topics.

Personally, I do not use any of the different topic areas.  I just click on the "New Posts" link and see what comes up.  I tend to read the threads where there is a lot of interaction even if it is contentious.

In the past few months there has just been thread after thread of endless religious screeds and mountains of detail.  If I want a meditation there a plenty of places where I can just download one.  It is overwhelmingly one person who posts these threads and I find them dull as dishwater.

TLDR;

There are other threads where another person (different person) seems to just reply to himself over and over again.

I want to hear about peoples lives.  I have a stressful day at work and when I am reading the forum I want something funny to cheer me up.  I do not want to read about the meditations of some obscure monk.

Greg was very good at this.  He would regularly post opinions about stuff he saw in the news.  He would get into fights and argue.  I didn't agree with him alot of the time.  Sometimes he really pissed me off but that is just Greg.  Roses and thorns go together.  It was bloody entertaining though.

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/detail-red-rose-bloom-450w-247410484.jpg)

Chestertonian is interesting too.  He talks about his hospital visits and various crisis and how much he is struggling.  I like that.  It is real life.

Personally, I think people are just losing hope.  I know I am.

My way of dealing with the atheists is just to block them.  Posters like Kirin just dont appear.  Occasionally I will click on the link a read it and probably conclude "nope, he's still an asshole".

Maybe you should shut the forum down for six months.  Absence makes the heart grow fonder they say.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/e1/59/90e159a47b7e0d1b14d7d129ad09542c.jpg)

Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Jacob on March 22, 2019, 04:31:47 PM
Chestertonian is interesting too.  He talks about his hospital visits and various crisis and how much he is struggling.  I like that.  It is real life.

I'm not the type to really share what's going on with me, but if you find that kind of thing edifying, I can post more.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Matto on March 22, 2019, 07:21:25 PM
I have found the forums to be less interesting in recent months, perhaps for a year or so. Christulsa left us and said he thinks the forum should be shut down, and that made me sad and reconsider my membership here as perhaps he is right and the forum is more bad than good. I don't know if it is bad. If it is bad, Cathinfo is worse and I have been posting there for nine years, so I am used to the poison, so I do not really agree with christulsa, though he may be right. I do not value my own opinion over his. Perhaps their time has come and gone. So I post less than I used to.

When I first started posting on forums years ago I would always be interested and I made about two posts a day on average to contribute. But lately I am posting less and less. My average on SD is less than a half a post a day for almost two years and in the last few months I rarely posted at all. I don't know why this is. Why do I find the Catholic forums less interesting than I used to? Perhaps I miss many of the old posters who no longer post. Perhaps I have heard everything about the Catholic faith discussed already and now it is boring because I have heard it all before. I do think traffic is down. I still read the forums, though not as much. It is not like I no longer care about the faith. I still believe and I still love going to the Latin Mass and I hope that never changes. I am not having a crisis of faith, or considering going Eastern Orthodox because of Francis or of deciding that Benedict is still really the pope.

What could make the forum better? I don't know. I would be interested in a thread where people share the stories they write and the art they create. Perhaps some of us write stories or paint pictures or even take photographs or sing songs. Not necessarily Catholic but artistic. I have been writing a lot but I am afraid to share my writings with other people. I am trying to write a trilogy of novellas in my free time. The public title will be The Daniela Trilogy, but they have a secret title which I will not reveal. It is something that gives a little meaning to my life. I have this kind of existential crisis going on where I think about the meaning of my own life. I tell myself that because I cannot have a wife and family that my life is meaningless. And then I think that with God there is meaning and one can be good and love God and find meaning even without a family. And then I think that without God my life would be meaningless. Yes, but I do believe in God. And if there is no God then my own life is meaningless. And if that is the case, then why would relationships with other people, a wife and children, give my own life meaning if their lives were as meaningless as my own? I cannot answer that so it all comes back to God.

But I am terrified of sharing my stories with other people. In fact the only person who I have shared them with is fellow SD poster Pon de Replay. I am afraid of sharing them because I fear first, that they are not very good, and second, that they reveal too much of my character and I fear they would scandalize people and make people hate me. But I think it would be interesting if we would share our art with each other on the forum. I know we can but I do not think there is a dedicated thread for that purpose. I would be willing to share some of my writing if such a thread would be established. I bet some of you have really interesting stories and I am sure many of them are holy and pious and some of them are irreverent. My own stories I believe show a true belief, but they are scarred by sin and contemplate doubt and despair. But if anyone does start such a thread I will contribute one of my stories and perhaps more, but I will not start the thread myself, I will wait for someone else to show enough interest to start it. I know Pon de Replay writes stories as I have read some of them and they are worth reading for the most part. I believe he used to post some of them on Te Deum before that forum kicked the bucket.

I have something going on in my life so please pray for me. It is important but I do not wish to reveal the details. Pray for Matthew's intention. I am happy but if this situation is resolved my life will be as good as I could ever expect considering my condition which some of you know about. It would really help myself and my family so very much so pray for me. Thank you. I really appreciate the ability to talk to you on this forum. It is nice to have fellow Catholics to talk to on the forum, and every time I have talked to any of you by PM it has been a good experience. For some reason christulsa has had bad experiences on the forum but for me it has all been good, at least on SD, except for one time when I was likened to a crack-head and got upset for a few minutes. So thank you KK for your work and your dedication, I am glad you keep SD online. Pax.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Fleur-de-Lys on March 22, 2019, 08:19:24 PM
I also find the forum boring these days. As others have said, Iíve been in the Trad community for a long time, and Iíve already heard the usual debates on various theological and moral issues. Iím not interested in repeating those. Iím not saying that others should not engage in these discussions, only that I do not read them or participate.

As others have said, what I find interesting is the minutiae of peopleís lives. Iím a stay-at-home mother with few Catholic friends, and I just like to come here to connect with other people like me. I like to know what people are reading or cooking or growing in their gardens. I like to hear the funny things that toddlers did today or learn that a new baby is on the way. I havenít posted much for a while, because these are the things I tend to talk about, and I feel like Iím boring people and not contributing anything sufficiently ďCatholicĒ to the forum.

Iím not sure what my point is in saying this. Iím  just chiming in, as the previous posts have resonated with me.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Non Nobis on March 23, 2019, 02:51:04 AM
Maybe I'm in a minority of one, but I wish we could have more discussion not just with non-Catholics and among traditionalists (sedevacantiism or no?) but also with non-traditionalist and even anti-traditionalist Catholics.  E.g. I sometimes have email arguments concerning Amoris Laetitia and other big issues in the "Conciliar Church" with a relative who thinks the Church is getting better and better, and traditionalists are just "rigourists".  I would also like to see more arguments with good-willed Catholics who think Vatican II makes sense.

It's so hard to have one forum for all traditionalist purposes; family issues are infinitely interesting and important for our salvation, and "what is in the news" is interesting and pertinent, but Catholicism (and the defense of traditional Catholicism) also has infinite room for moral, philosophical, and theological issues.  If we've "heard it all" already it's not because these things are limited but because we are limited. I wish somehow new expertise and excellence could be infused into the forum, and that it would attract more "big names" (and big intellects, perhaps) in the Church.

And I do admit to a fondness for the philosophy and theology of St. Thomas Aquinas, and wish he could be as central to this forum as he once was to the Church (according to its Popes).

What do people see on other forums that might be added here?  Are there sites out there that DO meet people's needs better than SD now?

I wish Kaesekopf would show up here more often....  Still praying for you K.  :pray2:

But - let's remember - it's Lent and things will look better at Easter!!
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Vetus Ordo on March 26, 2019, 03:47:19 PM
This forum is predestined to die and there's nothing you can do about it.

We're all dust and to dust we return. End of story.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: bigbadtrad on April 02, 2019, 11:05:03 AM
You want a ton of visits to this forum just post a ton of Catholic news on here and people will discover this place as a news hub. People like to comment on the news. Learn how to use aggregators or hire someone and dump tons of articles on here.

Then add ads on here so it pays for itself if you need to hire someone. Maybe links to purchase things on Amazon.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Non Nobis on April 02, 2019, 10:52:26 PM
You want a ton of visits to this forum just post a ton of Catholic news on here and people will discover this place as a news hub. People like to comment on the news. Learn how to use aggregators or hire someone and dump tons of articles on here.

Then add ads on here so it pays for itself if you need to hire someone. Maybe links to purchase things on Amazon.

 ::)

Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: orate on September 24, 2019, 10:22:33 AM
Maybe Kaesekopf should just shut the forum down.  The utter ignorance of some posters, ( See thread: https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=22703.msg482488#new  ) and the "my form of Catholicism is the only true form of Catholicism"  attitude of many posters, gives scandal to others, both inside and outside of the Faith. 

It certainly does not reflect the beauty of the traditional Catholic Faith.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Bernadette on September 24, 2019, 10:41:29 AM
Or he should just start banning people. :shrug:
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: dymphnaw on November 21, 2019, 09:38:00 AM
It seems like the spark has gone out of Suscipe Domine. It's dull.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Gardener on November 21, 2019, 11:37:25 AM
It seems like the spark has gone out of Suscipe Domine. It's dull.

This is the winter of our dissed content.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Michael Wilson on November 21, 2019, 05:33:03 PM
This forum has some very "hot" discussions at times and not so much at others. We can't expect fireworks every day.
I did particularly enjoy all the threads on "grace" that took place here, it helped me find Fr. Most's book and clear up my ideas about the Banezian system, thanks to Gardener.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: coffeeandcigarette on November 21, 2019, 06:28:38 PM
Online book club. I personally love a book club. Have mods to pick the books, political, historical, witty, fun, religious, theological (within reason), etc. Anyone who wants to can discuss. Unlike real life book clubs, people won't feel pressured to read every one, they can do the ones they want and skip others. I would advice that you don't pick any grossly irreligious books, because even though discussing these can be good apologetic practice, it would turn some people off as a "focus." Also, (hence the mods) no books with blasphemy, overt sexual content, etc. The nice thing about this as well is that the book would be introduced, a timeline for reading would be issued, and a discussion begun. After so long you shut it down and start the next book. No dusty threads.





Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Jacob on November 21, 2019, 09:25:00 PM
I've tried, but no one ever wants to read what I want to read. :(  My picks are just too dorky.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: coffeeandcigarette on November 22, 2019, 09:29:10 AM
I've tried, but no one ever wants to read what I want to read. :(  My picks are just too dorky.

Well now I'm curious. Hit me with your top ten.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: MaximGun on November 26, 2019, 01:36:10 PM
spend most of my freetime on catholic websites commenting on taylor marshall's YouTube videos.  I am sure greg does to, because someone of the same christian name is posting in the comment's on half of the videos... does make me lmao sometimes with his chalenging comments....must be the same dude.

with bishops fellay in hibernation and williamson retired and the other two bishops not speaking any English there really is no spokesperson for SSPX and right-of-center FSSP trads.  This means TM, voris and lifesite news are really getting most of the discussion valume today and controling the narrative.

probably a good idea to set up topics discussing the same pachamamma, vigano, etcetera topics and then post this forums urls in the comments section of TM, lifesite news, etcetera.  I would think that would bring in some new posters and fiery discussions.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Jacob on November 26, 2019, 02:01:19 PM
I've tried, but no one ever wants to read what I want to read. :(  My picks are just too dorky.

Well now I'm curious. Hit me with your top ten.

I wouldn't mind discussing the book I just finished, Laurus, by Evgeny Vodolazkin.
In the past, I've wanted to discuss The Rise and Fall of Triumph, a nonfiction book about the fortunes of a Catholic magazine founded in the 60s that presaged in many ways Trad thinking.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Maximilian on November 26, 2019, 02:07:34 PM

In the past, I've wanted to discuss The Rise and Fall of Triumph, a nonfiction book about the fortunes of a Catholic magazine founded in the 60s that presaged in many ways Trad thinking.

I read that when you posted a link some time ago.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Jacob on November 26, 2019, 02:14:39 PM

In the past, I've wanted to discuss The Rise and Fall of Triumph, a nonfiction book about the fortunes of a Catholic magazine founded in the 60s that presaged in many ways Trad thinking.

I read that when you posted a link some time ago.

Cool.  Did you get anything out of it?
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: maryslittlegarden on November 26, 2019, 02:36:35 PM
It seems like the spark has gone out of Suscipe Domine. It's dull.

Pants vs Skirts debate

There you go.....
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Maximilian on November 26, 2019, 04:32:39 PM

In the past, I've wanted to discuss The Rise and Fall of Triumph, a nonfiction book about the fortunes of a Catholic magazine founded in the 60s that presaged in many ways Trad thinking.

I read that when you posted a link some time ago.

Cool.  Did you get anything out of it?

In general I enjoyed the read and found it quite informative about that time period.

What struck me the most strongly was sympathy for the characters as they were betrayed first by their country and then by their church. Their heartfelt faith in America as the shining light that would bring freedom to the world was destroyed by the realization that we were actually working hand-in-glove with the communists.

At the time when they were suffering from loss of faith in the USA, they believed they could always fall back upon the Church, but then that exploded in their faces as well.

It reminds me of the author of "Canticle for Leibowitz" who just months prior to Vatican II published a book with the theme that nations might come and go but the Church would always be there. Eventually Walter Miller committed suicide.

Ultimately at the end, despite all the vicissitudes they had suffered, they were not able to shake their early formation. It was too much to ask that they come to see the pope as not Catholic, the conciliar church as a false church, etc.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Gardener on November 26, 2019, 11:31:33 PM
In all fairness, Walter Miller was pretty messed up as a person. But man, Canticle... was a masterpiece.

Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Heinrich on December 07, 2019, 10:00:00 AM
A few ideas: a conspiracy theory discussion thread, a "Shakespeare"* discussion thread. I am digging me some history plays and a refound interest in Othello and King Lear.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: clau clau on December 07, 2019, 05:28:00 PM
One problem I have is with the various areas.  The Chat Room, Coffee and Donuts ... whatever.

My portal to the forum is basically to click on the "Show unread since last visit". Whatever appears I tend to look down the list and contribute to the ones that I am interested in. I am not really focused on which area/room I am in just in the thread topic.

If I see that the topic has been introduced/replied to by certain members I am more likely to contribute to it. Contrariwise if the person is on my banned list or somebody who posts incessantly with walls of text I am unlikely to read the topic.

I even have links which link to certain posters to see what they have been posting and to look at their recent posts. If they have said something interesting "anywhere" on "any" thread I will jump into the thread at that point and read the comment in context and then maybe contribute to the thread.  Sometimes these threads are several day/weeks/months and even years old. It must seem a bit strange when one of these thread comes back from the dead and reappears in the latest posts.

It seems to me inevitable that there will be "stars" on any forum.  That is just Pareto distribution, it's everywhere. Trying to fight against it is like trying to hold back the tide. On the other hand stars need to be managed or they can easily destroy the forum. It's a bit like herding cats.

Pareto distribution - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution
Pareto principle     - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Michael Wilson on December 07, 2019, 08:02:05 PM
A few ideas: a conspiracy theory discussion thread, a "Shakespeare"* discussion thread. I am digging me some history plays and a refound interest in Othello and King Lear.
A fitness; wweightlifting; healthy died section.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Jacob on December 07, 2019, 08:40:34 PM
My portal to the forum is basically to click on the "Show unread since last visit". Whatever appears I tend to look down the list and contribute to the ones that I am interested in. I am not really focused on which area/room I am in just in the thread topic.

This is me as well.  It can be time consuming going back to find a thread with a new post that I opened and checked out, but didn't have time to reply in before closing it.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Heinrich on December 07, 2019, 09:59:14 PM
A few ideas: a conspiracy theory discussion thread, a "Shakespeare"* discussion thread. I am digging me some history plays and a refound interest in Othello and King Lear.
A fitness; wweightlifting; healthy died section.

Healthy died section?
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Gardener on December 08, 2019, 08:37:53 AM
A few ideas: a conspiracy theory discussion thread, a "Shakespeare"* discussion thread. I am digging me some history plays and a refound interest in Othello and King Lear.
A fitness; wweightlifting; healthy died section.

Healthy died section?

Solely devoted to Jack LaLanne
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Michael Wilson on December 08, 2019, 11:03:46 AM
Healthy diet: how many people eat nothing but junk all day long; when I worked at a convenience store of a Gas station, I saw people come in and buy soda pop; candy bars; & other snacks; they were all sugar addicts. Many people don't know how to eat healthy.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Lynne on December 08, 2019, 11:24:09 AM


My portal to the forum is basically to click on the "Show unread since last visit". Whatever appears I tend to look down the list and contribute to the ones that I am interested in. I am not really focused on which area/room I am in just in the thread topic.

If I see that the topic has been introduced/replied to by certain members I am more likely to contribute to it. Contrariwise if the person is on my banned list or somebody who posts incessantly with walls of text I am unlikely to read the topic.

I even have links which link to certain posters to see what they have been posting and to look at their recent posts. If they have said something interesting "anywhere" on "any" thread I will jump into the thread at that point and read the comment in context and then maybe contribute to the thread.  Sometimes these threads are several day/weeks/months and even years old. It must seem a bit strange when one of these thread comes back from the dead and reappears in the latest posts.



Unfortunately, the "Show last unread" link doesn't really show you everything. I find that I also have to click on the link below it too...
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Miriam_M on December 08, 2019, 12:44:39 PM
THIS:


A fitness, weightlifting, healthy diet section. [Your friendly proofreader.  ;D  ]


Re-posted in enthusiastic assent.
Title: Re: Forum improvements?
Post by: Heinrich on December 08, 2019, 01:10:29 PM
Healthy diet: how many people eat nothing but junk all day long; when I worked at a convenience store of a Gas station, I saw people come in and buy soda pop; candy bars; & other snacks; they were all sugar addicts. Many people don't know how to eat healthy.