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Title: History of the Atlantic World
Post by: red solo cup on October 04, 2018, 02:24:29 PM
Excellent podcast beginning with the re-conquest of Spain and Portugal. Then a history of the Canary Islands and finishing with Henry the Navigator.
https://soundcloud.com/atlanticworld
Title: Re: History of the Atlantic World
Post by: Optatus on October 05, 2018, 08:26:19 PM
I didn't have time to go through the whole series (or even the first episode), but some comments on the first 20 or so minutes:

1) This may be nit-picking but Iberians are NOT the descendants of the Visigoths. Genetic studies clearly demonstrate that the Visigoths had a negligible impact on the genetic composition of Iberians and the Suebi only slightly more so (specifically in the areas of Northern Portugal and Galicia, which was historically their territory).

2) He is absolutely right to trace the origins of the Age of Discovery to the Reconquista. You can't understand the former without the latter, at all. This is something modern historians, especially those who are not hispanists, completely fail to grasp. In short: the underlying spirit of the Reconquista and the Age of Discovery is the same. Once the Reconquista drew to a close, the same zeal which sustained it for centuries was converted into a zeal to perpetuate the struggle abroad.

3) Mr. Wuest's account of what happened in 711 is pretty questionable. Here are some issues I have:   

4) Access to trade goods was an important factor in the Age of Discovery but there was little interest in Africa. The interest was in the Indies and getting around the Venetian and Mamluk monopoly on Oriental trade. In this respect, Africa was regarded as little more than an obstacle.

In addition, to say that the Age of Discovery was "precisely" because of this pursuit of new markets is a gross simplification, and not an especially accurate one. In my view, the single most important factor was the perpetuation of the Reconquista. Look at how central the search for Prester John was to Infante Henrique and his colleagues at Sagres. He was quite literally obsessed with finding the fabled king. It's true that Prester John was rumoured to be wealthy, and this was no doubt of some importance, but the real hope was that he would be a valuable and powerful ally against the Moors.

I'm going to try to listen to the rest of the series over next couple of weeks. The above may seem harshly critical, but to be fair to the author he did admit that the Medieval period was a weak point for him.
Title: Re: History of the Atlantic World
Post by: red solo cup on October 06, 2018, 07:33:42 AM
Agreed. Also Musa was an Arab but Tariq was a Berber. Big difference.