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Title: Oil jobs
Post by: james03 on June 08, 2018, 03:54:14 PM
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And it doesn't take much to get hired by the oil industry - which, as Bloomberg summarizes, "will hire just about anyone with basic training"... and it will quickly double, triple or x-ple their pay in the process. "It is crazy" said Jazmin Jimenez, 24, who flew through a two-week training program at New Mexico Junior College about 100 miles north of Midland. Jimenez was hired by Chevron as a well-pump checker. "Honestly I never thought I’d see myself at an oilfield company. But now that I’m here -- I think this is it."

And at $28-an-hour, Jimenez makes double what she was earning as a prison guard at the Lea County Correctional Facility in Hobbs.

So let's recap.  A little girl goes to New Mexico Junior College for 2 weeks.  Applies at Chevron and gets hired.  She's paid $28 bucks an hour, plus full benefits, to drive around and take readings at wells.

What is the excuse for Trad men not being able to support a family?  If you are a young Trad lad, do what the little girl did.  Go to this Junior College and take the course, probably a safety course.  Or better, see below.

Note, this is the Permian, out in West Texas.  Very hot this time of year.  I recommend working in North Dakota first unless you love hot weather.  Pay is not as good, but $20/hr., plus overtime is starting.  You can get a furnished apartment in Williston for $800/mo.  Working Mon - Sat, you should take down $1,500 per week after tax @70hrs./week.  Work til November, then head down to the Permian for the Winter.  By that time you should have saved $50K without trying, or up to $100K if you are frugal.

Pro tip:  Contact Stellar Field Oil Services in Williston, they are hiring.  Stress any manly work you have done, that you will show up on time, and that you will pass the piss test.  To improve odds, take the OSHA 10 General safety course before contacting Stellar.  Google it.  If you tell them you have that, you'll get hired.  You can take it online.  Bring a buddy and split the rent.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: james03 on June 08, 2018, 04:06:22 PM
A few things:

1.  Live this life for 2 years with a goal of saving $200K.  Then you can leave it if you want and buy a house for cash.  This will help big time in being able to support a large Catholic family.  Note this is hard work with little leisure.  Young men can pull it off, but make sure to have the mindset that you are investing 2 years so you can buy a house and support a family.

2.  If you are a whiner and excuse maker, don't try this until you fix that.  They'll run you off.

3.  If you are physically weak, work yourself up to 100 push-ups per day before heading up there.

4.  If you hate the heat, working in ND during the winter is doable, but you'll have to drop a lot of money on arctic gear.  I recommend against it if you hate the cold.  Instead drag up and head down to the Permian late November.  Permian has nice weather in the winter.

5.  Another option is to hire on with a big oil company and get into operations like the little girl did.  I don't think I'd want to live in the desert (or the tundra) for the rest of my life, but that might float your boat.  Pay is less, but well above average, and benefits are great.  Harder to get, and they might have hired the little girl to fill a diversity quota, so don't count on that.

6.  Another viable option is to do the 2 years, then use your experience to work in the Ohio Utica, Pennsylvania Marsellas, or in the Colorado oil fields.  So you buy a house, then take a big oil job taking down $70K with full benefits.  No house note, so you are sitting pretty.  Plus girls dig oil field workers.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Sempronius on June 08, 2018, 04:10:39 PM
Amen to that. Would love to do that if I lived in America.

 So that means working 11 hours a day. That would be a real challenge but worth it if you could save $100k and start something of your own
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: james03 on June 08, 2018, 05:31:39 PM
My son did it.  He was working 12-14 hours per day during the summer.  Salted away a lot of money for college.  Young men can pull it off if you know it is temporary to save money to buy an house.  Imagine starting married life without an house note.

(Laus, double "an's" with the h.  Killing it baby.)
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Gardener on June 08, 2018, 06:05:30 PM
...But the "h" is pronounced, so it would be "a". Unless you follow a cockney pronunciation and it's "an 'ouse".

a hat, an hour, etc.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Michael Wilson on June 08, 2018, 08:28:06 PM
I don't like oil men, too slick.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: james03 on June 08, 2018, 09:10:54 PM
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...But the "h" is pronounced, so it would be "a". Unless you follow a cockney pronunciation and it's "an 'ouse".

a hat, an hour, etc.
Inside joke.  He hates the practice of putting the "an" in front of a hard h.  So I have to do it now.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Greg on June 09, 2018, 02:57:54 AM
11 hour day isn't hard.  When building my house I was on site at 6 am until past midnight everyday for 4 months.  Went to church and basically lived and worked on the site.  That was hard.

But it got the house built well and fast.

Long days aren't hard.  It's all of the other crap you have to sort out outside of work.  Modern working conditions are a breeze.

Today I have to wash two cars, selling one,, tidy the garden because my 16 year old paid helper has exams and get the SSID code from Mitsubisihi Motors.

I'd rather be working than doing all that crap.  The beauty of oil work I imagine is there ain't too much to distract you.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: LausTibiChriste on June 09, 2018, 03:03:14 AM
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...But the "h" is pronounced, so it would be "a". Unless you follow a cockney pronunciation and it's "an 'ouse".

a hat, an hour, etc.
Inside joke.  He hates the practice of putting the "an" in front of a hard h.  So I have to do it now.

Yer an horrible human
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Greg on June 09, 2018, 03:32:45 AM
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Frank on June 09, 2018, 05:25:41 AM
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Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Michael Wilson on June 09, 2018, 07:33:16 AM
Frank,
 go to youtube and look up "Monty Python Four Yorkshire men"
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Heinrich on June 09, 2018, 01:36:41 PM
11 hour day isn't hard.  When building my house I was on site at 6 am until past midnight everyday for 4 months.  Went to church and basically lived and worked on the site.  That was hard.

But it got the house built well and fast.

Long days aren't hard.  It's all of the other crap you have to sort out outside of work.  Modern working conditions are a breeze.

Today I have to wash two cars, selling one,, tidy the garden because my 16 year old paid helper has exams and get the SSID code from Mitsubisihi Motors.

I'd rather be working than doing all that crap.  The beauty of oil work I imagine is there ain't too much to distract you.

Don't you have kids for chores doin'?
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Heinrich on June 09, 2018, 02:26:49 PM
A few things:

1.  Live this life for 2 years with a goal of saving $200K.  Then you can leave it if you want and buy a house for cash.  This will help big time in being able to support a large Catholic family.  Note this is hard work with little leisure.  Young men can pull it off, but make sure to have the mindset that you are investing 2 years so you can buy a house and support a family.

2.  If you are a whiner and excuse maker, don't try this until you fix that.  They'll run you off.

3.  If you are physically weak, work yourself up to 100 push-ups per day before heading up there.

4.  If you hate the heat, working in ND during the winter is doable, but you'll have to drop a lot of money on arctic gear.  I recommend against it if you hate the cold.  Instead drag up and head down to the Permian late November.  Permian has nice weather in the winter.

5.  Another option is to hire on with a big oil company and get into operations like the little girl did.  I don't think I'd want to live in the desert (or the tundra) for the rest of my life, but that might float your boat.  Pay is less, but well above average, and benefits are great.  Harder to get, and they might have hired the little girl to fill a diversity quota, so don't count on that.

6.  Another viable option is to do the 2 years, then use your experience to work in the Ohio Utica, Pennsylvania Marsellas, or in the Colorado oil fields.  So you buy a house, then take a big oil job taking down $70K with full benefits.  No house note, so you are sitting pretty.  Plus girls dig oil field workers.

1. Rate of pay, on average? With this 200k number, we are talking 28 an hour for 305 working days a year. Is that humanly sustainable with this type of work in the extreme elements?

2. Too bad that is an issue in today's society.

3. I think it'll tak e more than pushups.

4. The football is also better in west TX. Good entertainment for little money.

5. Is there any doubt that Jazmin fella is a diversity token?

6. 200k will not get one a trad comfortable home in CO(That is close to fields).
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: james03 on June 10, 2018, 12:18:02 AM
1.  Overtime is the key.
3.  Didn't want to complicate things.  Throw in some pull ups also.
5.  Female and Mexican.  Definitely a 2-fer.

6.  Don't know much about CO.  I think eastern Ohio is a viable plan.  The Utica is centered on Stuebenville, which I believe has a Trad Mass now.  I think there are a good selection of Trad Masses out that way.  So you put in your 2 years, then end up there.  PA is probably a good choice also.  Also Oklahoma City is booming with the SCOOP/STACK fields. 
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Greg on June 10, 2018, 12:34:20 AM
200k deposit certainly takes the edge off a mortgage.

In addition, anyone turning up at 23 to 26 with two years in an oil field job screams, "I am not a lazy entitled millennial".

So one is going to find oneself invited to more job interviews than one would, had one not put oneself into that career choice in one's early twenties.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Carleendiane on June 11, 2018, 10:04:04 AM
...But the "h" is pronounced, so it would be "a". Unless you follow a cockney pronunciation and it's "an 'ouse".

a hat, an hour, etc.

Thank you Gardener, I forgot that rule! I knew there was a rule on the usage of an, but for the life of me could not remember it. Now, I'm gonna  get it right! Lol.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: diaduit on July 04, 2018, 04:48:20 AM
Is it a hotbed for degenerate men type of workplace? I've told my son about doing something like this in his 20s for a couple of years and get the price of a house out of it then he could relax in a 9/5 job and rear tons of.kids once you have no mortgage. But I've heard it's a very sinful environment!!
He hasn't an instinctual work ethic though.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Greg on July 04, 2018, 09:42:19 AM
All work places are more or less degenerate.  Thomson Reuters used to have 4 of the most disgusting whores of women talking in a degenerate fashion.  I knew the boss didn't care about their sordid office chat, so I told him it was affecting my sales efficiency and costing him about 50,000 in his annual bonus.

He fired 2 of them for some trumped up reason, and the other 2 shut up because I told them why I had complained.  Any stick is good enough to beat a dog with, and for me the end often DOES justify the means.  That's how shit gets done in the real world.

I heard the The Priestly Society of St. John was pretty degenerate too.  They didn't have naked ladies plastered on the wall or go to titty bars after a long shift, but they were sodmising seminarians and embezzling donor funds.

Sometimes the "respectable" people are the most degenerate of all.

Your son has to do something with his life.

Notice that the apostles went to Rome.  Which had whores on every street corner and gladiators for public entertainment.  They didn't start homesteads and hide away in the boonies.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Heinrich on July 04, 2018, 03:43:35 PM
Is it a hotbed for degenerate men type of workplace? I've told my son about doing something like this in his 20s for a couple of years and get the price of a house out of it then he could relax in a 9/5 job and rear tons of.kids once you have no mortgage. But I've heard it's a very sinful environment!!
He hasn't an instinctual work ethic though.

Oh, my. And we wonder why trad boys never grow up? Where does your husband work?  What type of work built the great cities of USA and Europe? Teach your sons not to be shrinking violets. It is possible to work in a rough and tumble environment and not sin. James isn't talking about bouncing at a strip joint. That good coin, but a loss of soul. Being on the job site with with laboring men, as a brotherhood, has a virtue all its own. If conversations steer towards impurity, sooner or later, the guys will underrstand and cease if the best workers demonstrate resiliency and piety. They will earn respect and evanagelize by example. Let your boys go into the world and conquer it for Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: diaduit on July 05, 2018, 07:38:11 AM
Is it a hotbed for degenerate men type of workplace? I've told my son about doing something like this in his 20s for a couple of years and get the price of a house out of it then he could relax in a 9/5 job and rear tons of.kids once you have no mortgage. But I've heard it's a very sinful environment!!
He hasn't an instinctual work ethic though.

Oh, my. And we wonder why trad boys never grow up? Where does your husband work?  What type of work built the great cities of USA and Europe? Teach your sons not to be shrinking violets. It is possible to work in a rough and tumble environment and not sin. James isn't talking about bouncing at a strip joint. That good coin, but a loss of soul. Being on the job site with with laboring men, as a brotherhood, has a virtue all its own. If conversations steer towards impurity, sooner or later, the guys will underrstand and cease if the best workers demonstrate resiliency and piety. They will earn respect and evanagelize by example. Let your boys go into the world and conquer it for Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Hey of all the trad mamas I am one that does not believe in sheltering your kids from the world.  Mine go to school and hopefully they will have a good job/career so they can provide for their families if they get married.   DH and I do our best to toughen them up.  Having said that a 20 year old boy would have to have a solid faith and pure discipline to survive an environment such as the oil rigs etc.
Ive told my boys there will be no 'sissys' in this house. 
Our ds 14, was too soft in primary school and he was bullied by some kids in his class.  We organised one to one self defence classes from a trad mma fighter.  In first year of secondary school (13 yrs old) same crap started and the classes paid off.  He sorted it with a few punches during lunch hour one day and that settled it.  No problems since.
He has just done a 3 week stint in the Gaeltacht , (Irish speaking college 80 miles away) to improve his Irish ability.  While other mamas were organising their kids to go with friends , mine went on his own, while other mamas were getting phonecalls about wanting to leave, mine told me he was loving it.  He got one bout of homesickness but told himself to cop on and he got over it.

No sissys allowed here.

 
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Greg on July 05, 2018, 08:55:30 AM
That's the key.  Teach kids to fight.  A few skills in MMA or boxing will see off 95% of bullies and the other 5% will at least respect you for breaking their skin open.

Most kids are too lazy to bother skilling up in anything and parents are too anti-violence.

My 13 year old boy is trained by the local Ghurkas and they are entering him into his first amateur boxing fight soon.  An autistic boy was being picked on at school and my son jumped on the bully and beat him to bruises.  As the autistic boy backed him up and told the headmaster what happened, he didn't get into much trouble.

Now he's "the mad Russian" and nobody is going to touch him.

Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Heinrich on July 05, 2018, 10:51:51 AM
I like the direction this thread is taking. Thank you Greg and Diaduit for the anecdotes.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Bonaventure on July 05, 2018, 11:24:11 AM
Every job is full of degenerate people. Church jobs even more so.

I spent my 4th with my confessor and another trad diocesan priest. Drank and ate pizza with them and my wife for about 5 hours. You won’t believe the sordid shit they know. One of my best bud’s has a bishop for a brother. Same thing.

Here is something I saw myself at a “conservative” Catholic school in a “conservative” state. Campus minister, who is a neocon/trad, btw, started banging another young, fit teacher. She wasn’t Catholic. Knocked her up actually, and the woman aborted.

Another guy, lukewarm Catholic, started banging the religion teacher. She was actually quite neocon, and went to one of those colleges that are hubs of neoconservatism (think ave Maria, CUA, Franciscan). She got pregnant, and aborted their kid. It was her second abortion, actually, because when she was a teen, her uncle raped her and her “devout” Catholic father drove her to planned parenthood. Did I mention she was a postulant in a religious order too?

Oh, well those are just Novus Ordo people, one might say. Nope! I worked at a “trad” school, used the Baltimore catechism, TLM every week, and guess what! Corrupt and incompetent as hell. Cronyism and nepotism ruled the day. Zero academic standards (sixth graders who don’t know their multiplication tables). Kids sexting, selling weed at school, insane truancy (covering up for kids who missed 60 days of school), and I can go on. All Father cared about was saying his Mass, and the kids “knew their faith.” They sure did not.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Greg on July 05, 2018, 12:12:26 PM
Results baby.  Results.

It's the only way to measure the success of anything.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: diaduit on July 05, 2018, 02:22:59 PM
Every job is full of degenerate people. Church jobs even more so.

I spent my 4th with my confessor and another trad diocesan priest. Drank and ate pizza with them and my wife for about 5 hours. You won’t believe the sordid shit they know. One of my best bud’s has a bishop for a brother. Same thing.

Here is something I saw myself at a “conservative” Catholic school in a “conservative” state. Campus minister, who is a neocon/trad, btw, started banging another young, fit teacher. She wasn’t Catholic. Knocked her up actually, and the woman aborted.

Another guy, lukewarm Catholic, started banging the religion teacher. She was actually quite neocon, and went to one of those colleges that are hubs of neoconservatism (think ave Maria, CUA, Franciscan). She got pregnant, and aborted their kid. It was her second abortion, actually, because when she was a teen, her uncle raped her and her “devout” Catholic father drove her to planned parenthood. Did I mention she was a postulant in a religious order too?

Oh, well those are just Novus Ordo people, one might say. Nope! I worked at a “trad” school, used the Baltimore catechism, TLM every week, and guess what! Corrupt and incompetent as hell. Cronyism and nepotism ruled the day. Zero academic standards (sixth graders who don’t know their multiplication tables). Kids sexting, selling weed at school, insane truancy (covering up for kids who missed 60 days of school), and I can go on. All Father cared about was saying his Mass, and the kids “knew their faith.” They sure did not.

Wow that's degenerate 😞
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: Greg on July 05, 2018, 03:57:17 PM
The worse of the two fired was Irish.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: diaduit on July 05, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
The worse of the two fired was Irish.

Oh we're not short of spoilt selfish brats here.
Title: Re: Oil jobs
Post by: james03 on July 06, 2018, 08:13:39 PM
Yes, it can be wild in the off hours.  The men on my son's crew wanted to hire him a prostitute.  He told them he was Catholic and didn't do that.  One of the guys told him that was good and he should keep living that life.  It was an opportunity to witness for Christ.

He did make some mistakes, being naive to the ways of women. 





He told his sister about the incident. 

Sister of course had to tell this juicy bit of gossip to his mama.  Which of course I then had to hear about.