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The Shrine => The Bookstore => Topic started by: jovan66102 on May 20, 2018, 11:51:05 PM

Title: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: jovan66102 on May 20, 2018, 11:51:05 PM
Father Haydock's Commentary in a convenient, searchable format!

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/hcc.html (https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/hcc.html)
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Gardener on May 21, 2018, 12:25:35 AM
Nice. Ever since the other one went down, I'd been using the archive.org snapshots of it.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: jovan66102 on May 21, 2018, 12:56:29 AM
So have I, but this one looks better.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Non Nobis on May 21, 2018, 02:11:11 AM
This looks great! Reminds me of drbo.org.

Is the "Bookstore" sub-forum mostly used for actual (offline) books? I almost didn't look here.

I wish there was a perfect way to arrange an online Catholic resources "bookstore" or library.  There is so much good material but the links are all over the place (e.g. in threads).  I am very disorganized and have a bad memory, so often have trouble finding the Catholic sources I need - resulting in inefficient overuse of Google.  Any helpful suggestions, e.g. how do you do it for your own use? Maybe I should start a new thread...
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: jovan66102 on May 21, 2018, 02:51:51 AM
Any helpful suggestions, e.g. how do you do it for your own use?

Yes! Use myhq.com (http://myhq.com). It's a free, no advertising bookmark tool. It has an 'add link' tool that you can put in your bookmark bar at the top of your screen. When you're on a page, just click that, and it's automatically saved on the page. It allows for categorisation, as well, so you could have 'prayer books', 'theology', 'philosophy', etc. Or you could organise the bookmarks by Saint or other author.

I've used it for over a decade and I love it. It's always at the left of my bookmark bar, with the 'add link' tool right next to it.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: jovan66102 on May 21, 2018, 02:53:53 AM
Any helpful suggestions, e.g. how do you do it for your own use?

Yes! Use myhq.com (http://myhq.com). It's a free, no advertising bookmark tool. It has an 'add link' tool that you can put in your bookmark bar at the top of your screen. When you're on a page, just click that, and it's automatically saved on the page. It allows for categorisation, as well, so you could have 'prayer books', 'theology', 'philosophy', etc. Or you could organise the bookmarks by Saint or other author.

I've used it for over a decade and I love it. It's always at the left of my bookmark bar, with the 'add link' tool right next to it. Actually, now that I think of it, we could set up an SD page on it so everyone could access it. If enough people want it, I can set up the page.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Prayerful on May 21, 2018, 04:06:17 PM
I've the Loreto publications reprint (great barring the intro is one page out), and an 1851 version in two volumes, which condenses some of the notes and has some, well, vivid illustrations.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Gardener on May 21, 2018, 05:10:26 PM
I've the Loreto publications reprint (great barring the intro is one page out), and an 1851 version in two volumes, which condenses some of the notes and has some, well, vivid illustrations.

The Loreto reprint is one I've been wanting. Is it worth the money? Are you able to post a few pictures of it so I can see its layout, quality, any illustrations, etc.?

I wish they'd get on with the Lapide commentary translation. The ones they have done so far as an amazing resource. Much more in-depth than Haydock (though not necessarily as accessible for the average person, due to the amount and depth of info).
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Prayerful on May 22, 2018, 03:29:08 PM
I've the Loreto publications reprint (great barring the intro is one page out), and an 1851 version in two volumes, which condenses some of the notes and has some, well, vivid illustrations.

The Loreto reprint is one I've been wanting. Is it worth the money? Are you able to post a few pictures of it so I can see its layout, quality, any illustrations, etc.?

I wish they'd get on with the Lapide commentary translation. The ones they have done so far as an amazing resource. Much more in-depth than Haydock (though not necessarily as accessible for the average person, due to the amount and depth of info).

Imgur album (https://imgur.com/a/Z34Azng) (hopefully this shows, somewhat jumbled).

Yes, I would think so in terms of worth. High quality and striking binding and cover/spine decoration. There is only one noticeable blunder (at least on mine). The last page of the preface, which carries a list of commentators, is placed one page before the preface. Otherwise I cannot fault it, although maybe one or two more ribbons might have helped (say for moving between scripture text and dictionary). I thought the paper a little light but the Baronius parallel DR-Vulgate has the same sort of light paper, as frankly do most missals, which presumably has been found practical. The Catholic Bible Dictionary is both finely illustrated and references each use of every entry in the dictionary. Fr Haydock showed no fear of the heresiarchs Luther, Wesley and Calvin and others, quoting their interpretations in his notes in order to refute them.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Gardener on May 22, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Excellent. Thank you. Alas my poor wallet.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Non Nobis on May 23, 2018, 10:55:13 PM
Any helpful suggestions, e.g. how do you do it for your own use?

Yes! Use myhq.com (http://myhq.com). It's a free, no advertising bookmark tool. It has an 'add link' tool that you can put in your bookmark bar at the top of your screen. When you're on a page, just click that, and it's automatically saved on the page. It allows for categorisation, as well, so you could have 'prayer books', 'theology', 'philosophy', etc. Or you could organise the bookmarks by Saint or other author.

I've used it for over a decade and I love it. It's always at the left of my bookmark bar, with the 'add link' tool right next to it. Actually, now that I think of it, we could set up an SD page on it so everyone could access it. If enough people want it, I can set up the page.

I'll have to try myhq.

I found this sample myhq page:  http://www.myhq.com/public/l/b/lbettencourt/. It gives me an idea of how big the tables can grow.
 
It would be nice to have something like a "SuscipeDomine Traditionalist Catholic Online Reference Library".  Maybe  you could start a thread providing a link to a sample myhq page (even if not set up by you) and ask if people would like to populate something like that for a common SD library.  You could also ask for ideas as to what should go in it, and perhaps it could even be changed over time a little as more ideas come in.  Of course it is up to you.

I think this might be useful.  I might be able to help maintain it if that is needed. I'll have to tryout myhq myself first.

What do you think, Gardener (or anyone reading)? Any other ideas?
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Well so far I haven't been able to register at myhq... Old software...
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Gardener on May 24, 2018, 01:00:25 AM
Ideas on what?
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: jovan66102 on May 24, 2018, 02:08:27 AM
On setting up a bookmark page on myhq for a Suscipe Domine 'library'.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Gardener on May 24, 2018, 12:07:10 PM
I have no idea what that application is.

I just utilize the browser's bookmark feature and make separate folders as needed, and then place bookmarks with labels to help me remember what something is (in other words, I rarely use the default label).

Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: jovan66102 on May 24, 2018, 12:47:39 PM
Yes, but a myhq page could be accessible to all members of SD (and the public, if we so choose), unlike the bookmarks on your computer.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Gardener on May 24, 2018, 05:58:14 PM
Yes, but a myhq page could be accessible to all members of SD (and the public, if we so choose), unlike the bookmarks on your computer.

Ah, I see. So a crowd-sourced bookmark resource. Got it. Dunno what would be best. For stuff like that in the enterprise environments we just use SharePoint to consolidate.
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Non Nobis on May 24, 2018, 06:43:36 PM
I have no idea what that application is.

I just utilize the browser's bookmark feature and make separate folders as needed, and then place bookmarks with labels to help me remember what something is (in other words, I rarely use the default label).

I do also, but I don't keep them well organized. Catholic folders are mingled with other folders and with files I bookmarked outside of any folder. Plus the bookmarks sometimes aren't carried over when I move to a new PC (I know there are ways to do this).  The idea of using myhq would be to have a shareable carefully organized online reference shelf with only "the best" Catholic links to online books that would be desirable on any traditional Catholic's shelf (exactly what these include is open to question).

Myhq is very old technology (its sign up interface is not pretty) and I'm just getting a blank page when I try to register. Not that old is bad, but it is not as well supported or discussed online.  And multi-level folders are a plus with firefox (etc) bookmarking. (But there is something simple about myhq that attracts me).

Maybe some other online shareable bookmark manager could be used for a SD library. I think it could be carefully setup and maintained rather than "free for all". People could submit ideas for what should be in it.

Just some ideas.  Maybe just using your own bookmarking is sufficient and most practical.

(Added after reading Gardener's post)

I don't know about Sharepoint, not being in an enterprise environment! It's hard to say what might be overkill for what we would need... and how far we would want to go (e.g. managing editable documents not just urls).
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Gardener on May 24, 2018, 06:53:08 PM
I'm not saying to run a sharepoint for this. I'm just saying that it's the only thing I'm familiar with insofar as a community-accessible resource.

 
Title: Re: Fr Haydock's Commentary
Post by: Non Nobis on May 26, 2018, 04:58:40 PM
Since I'm not able to register on myhq, I'm going to try www.draggo.com (http://www.draggo.com) that lets you create your own page of bookmarks with a somewhat hierarchical arrangement (not unlimited multi-level nesting). It does let you add links via a browser button.

This will be just for my own use, to start, although it will be publicly accessible. I might keep relevant traditionalist links in the "public" folders and my own personal links in "private" folders.

Here's a sample of someone else's  draggo page (to give you a better idea):

http://www.draggo.com/kdelizza (http://www.draggo.com/kdelizza)

It's not really community-accessible in the sense of allowing multiple people to add entries, only in the sense that any website is accessible. So it's "just another place for traditionalist Catholic links". Definitely unsophisticated. It is also in a "beta" version, and it's not obvious that it will be updated, but it has a more modern look-and-feel than myhq. (But you figured most of that out by looking at the sample)

But perhaps the suscipedomine community could offer ideas for its folders and bookmarks, even if it is realistically used mostly or only by me.

Maybe straightening out my own browser bookmarks would be a better idea for me, but I thought I would experiment with this. To tell the truth I don't even know yet whether I can register on draggo yet!

But Jovan you could probably do better with myhq... Myhq does have the advantage of showing more bookmarks on one page, and not having ads.

Obviously there are also other bookmark managers out there...