SSPX Pontifical Masses

Started by RomanMC97, October 16, 2023, 10:12:41 AM

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RomanMC97

October 16, 2023, 10:12:41 AM
What is everyone's opinion on the SSPX liturgical praxis regarding masses by their bishops? Things like the "pontifical missa cantata" or "pontifical missa solemnis" which don't exist in the traditional rubrics. Do you think that these matters are trivial? Just seems so strange that they seemingly don't care about such things.

SamVanHouten

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October 17, 2023, 01:45:10 PM
Along with the sedevacantist groups as well. It comes from 1964, just before the worst of the Council. It is weird.

RomanMC97

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October 17, 2023, 09:54:52 PM
At least with most sede groups they essentially do a pontifical low mass but sing it instead (use the pontifical canon instead of altar cards, bugia on altar, chaplins etc). Because a "missa cantata" is just a sung low mass. What makes a mass "High" is the assistance of Deacon and Sub-Deacon.

Melkor

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October 29, 2023, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: RomanMC97 on October 16, 2023, 10:12:41 AMWhat is everyone's opinion on the SSPX liturgical praxis regarding masses by their bishops? Things like the "pontifical missa cantata" or "pontifical missa solemnis" which don't exist in the traditional rubrics. Do you think that these matters are trivial? Just seems so strange that they seemingly don't care about such things.



What a stupid question. The SSPX isn't exactly booming with excess priests. They've essentially been forced to start from scratch. Not every Mass can afford to be a solemn high Mass, there simply isn't enough man power.

So maybe just be grateful for what we have instead of criticizing?
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Mirantus

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January 03, 2024, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Melkor on October 29, 2023, 07:46:50 AM
Quote from: RomanMC97 on October 16, 2023, 10:12:41 AMWhat is everyone's opinion on the SSPX liturgical praxis regarding masses by their bishops? Things like the "pontifical missa cantata" or "pontifical missa solemnis" which don't exist in the traditional rubrics. Do you think that these matters are trivial? Just seems so strange that they seemingly don't care about such things.



What a stupid question. The SSPX isn't exactly booming with excess priests. They've essentially been forced to start from scratch. Not every Mass can afford to be a solemn high Mass, there simply isn't enough man power.

So maybe just be grateful for what we have instead of criticizing?

Completely agree.

It's like the pre-55 vs 62 debate: I used to be very very anti 62 (and still think the pre-55 is "better" objectively) but have since come to appreciate there are more important things like being consistent in the reaction to the grave crisis we are currently in in the Church: and that the crisis is much deeper than Liturgical, even if this is by far the most obvious external sign afflicting the Church.

The reasons for the usage of the 62 by Abp. Lefebre and the society is sound, even if it is not "ideal".

Nothing is "ideal" in this crisis we have been in for the last 70 years.

We are no longer in an "ideal" situation today - and salvation of our souls is more important than questions such as whether a pontifical missa cantata is good or not.
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