Would you attend these Masses?

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Bonaventure

April 25, 2024, 11:39:18 AM
It's 1985, and a Sunday. Archbishop Lefebvre is down the street saying a Low Mass, no sermon, and ostensibly saying Mass "una cum JP2." 

It's 2024. A retired, 90 year old diocesan priest, who was ordained in 1964, is saying Mass on Sunday. This Mass is the only nearby Mass within 6 hours travel. The priest is 100% orthodox and is completely opposed to the Novus Ordo, V2, etc.  Said priest tried to do his best within the diocesan framework, and for his efforts was never given a real assignment and made a hospital chaplain his entire career. Little by little, he came to slowly reject the V2 changes, but this took decades.  Said priest publicly tells people, I think it is hugely possible and even likely that all of the conciliar popes have been impostors, that one day the Church will decide, that I don't want to make the decision. I simply personally don't agree with formal SVism for x, y, or z. He tells people that he has doubts as to Bergoglio's papacy, but he is afraid to omit this name because if he is wrong, he'd be schismatic and sinning. (FYI, this is all based off a real life example of a priest I know).

Would you attend these Masses? In the scenario, these are the only Masses you can avail of. It's either go to these, or stay home.
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Baylee

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April 25, 2024, 12:05:07 PM
As mod, can you see who votes what?

Bonaventure

#2
April 25, 2024, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: Baylee on April 25, 2024, 12:05:07 PMAs mod, can you see who votes what?

No.
"If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

Stubborn

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April 25, 2024, 12:23:54 PM
I voted yes, but that would mean the old priest is celebrating the TLM, not the NOM. If it was the NOM then I would not go there.
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LausTibiChriste

#4
April 25, 2024, 12:32:41 PM
Yes.

If it's the TLM.
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Bonaventure

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April 25, 2024, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: Stubborn on April 25, 2024, 12:23:54 PMI voted yes, but that would mean the old priest is celebrating the TLM, not the NOM. If it was the NOM then I would not go there.

I didn't even think to differentiate "Mass" vs "Novus Ordo."
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awkward customer

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April 25, 2024, 02:29:40 PM
If the old priest is saying the TLM then yes.

I might not take Communion though, if he mixes the hosts consecrated at his TLM with those from a NO Mass, taken from the tabernacle, as I have seen priests saying the TLM regularly do.

But there is grace in simply assisting at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass without taking Communion, according to the Catechism of Trent.

Michael Wilson

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April 25, 2024, 05:24:47 PM
I voted yes, as I have attended such Masses and most older trads have also.
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