Revised opinion on Covid vaccine safety

[lauermar]

In case anyone missed my post from last year, I'll restate my revised opinion based on new evidence presented to Congress and general observations in the course of my job and my husband's. People make up their own minds and nobody cares about my opinions. But I just received a private message inviting me to explain where I'm at.

I supported vaccination ever since nursing school in the late 1970s. The evidence showed the benefits outweighed the risks. However, the jig was up for me two years ago when a female registered pharmacist presented a blank vaccine PI to Congress as "informed consent" for her patients. I never saw this in my 18 years in the industry. Big Pharma must have used the emergency use authorization to pull it off. Products under trial have an investigator's brochure pharmacists can access, and a link to unpublished ongoing studies. There were none. The page was left intentionally blank. Last year, MTG presented a graph showing greater AEs related to the Covid vaccine relative to the influenza vaccine. This is worrisome evidence. Before this, we didn't have the data. Any judgements made by others was conjecture, not based on evidence. Now we have data.

I'm a transitional care coordinator. Patients in Chicago metro hospitals whose charts I review daily, who are well over age 70, have multiple comorbidities. After a brief decline in new cases, some are now contracting Covid again. It's following a seasonal pattern. As a novel virus spreads, it loses its virulence. This is consistent with other viruses. I rarely see any on life support anymore. I managed the case of one with long Covid that died recently which was an exception. I sent home a few aged 90+ cancer patients with Covid who are now on home health service and doing well. They are all vaccinated. +++This does not imply anything positive or negative about vaccine safety. It means their doctors are not reporting suspicious life-threatening vaccine side effects in these individuals at this time. Further watch is needed.+++

As healthcare workers, my husband and I were required to vaccinate to keep our jobs. Today, my employer is no longer mandating the Covid vaccine. My husband's employer only recently stopped the mandate. Neither of us plan to vaccinate further as more evidence of long-term AEs becomes available.

We are both over age 60 and most people are no longer working as we are. We are lucky to be healthy and able to work. We are blessed because God in His mercy permits us to keep serving patients. God alone will determine when He calls us home. There are nuns who have worked with lepers for decades before eventually contracting it themselves.

[Greg]

https://www.youtube.com/live/v3N-uFfvU5s?si=KMhCj4lJzt_Df_Lt

Watch and learn.

[LausTibiChriste]

No one cares, lauermar - piss off

[TradGranny]

Lauermar, since it appears that you found research which convinced you much later than the peer-reviewed medical research articles which I posted way back when (which have been validated by newer research)-- does this mean that you retract repeatedly calling me a "tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy theorist"? Thank you in advance, and please know that my only motivation was to save people from possible damage to their bodies.

[TradGranny]

please know that my only motivation was to save people from possible damage to their bodies.

Please see thread on 5G and how to protect yourself.

[lauermar]

No one cares, lauermar - piss off

Reporting this. Vulgarity is not necessary nor a Catholic response. Probably will take communion on Sunday without going to confession.

[lauermar]

HCQ fell into disuse for humans years ago as new medications with better efficacy and a cleaner side effect profile were developed for those conditions that the drug was indicated to treat. This was pre-Covid.

Anyone who is actively shilling online for HCQ likely has a financial reason for doing so. There are kits available for distribution. If it isn't that, then the person has a tinfoil hat.

[Greg]

She's such a moral coward she writes to me and blocks my replies.

Me being wrong was never the issue. Everyone here made their own decisions about their own bodies. WHAT IS WRONG IS ENTIRE WORLD WAS LIED TO by the WHO, medical community, research, and government officials all over the world.I did not jump on the conspiracy bandwagon until I saw more evidence of it.

That's enough discussion about this. Take it elsewhere.

And we told you that you were being lied to, well in advance.

We knew.

If the world jumps off a cliff are you going to jump too?

[diaduit]

There is nothing wrong with being wrong but you could at least apologise to the fanatical name calling you did to genuine people who tried to warn you, now that you know you were lied to. 

[ChairmanJoeAintMyPrez]

HCQ fell into disuse for humans years ago

It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines.  In 2021, it was the 116th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than 5 million prescriptions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine

 

[Greg]

There's definitely something wrong with being wrong after the truth was obvious to anyone with at least half of their brain working.

No brand new vaccine or brand new drug of any kind can be said to be "safe and effective".  Anyone with basic intelligence can understand this.  It would be like saying Windows 8 was "bug free and stable".  No way you can make a statement like that until it is tested on millions of person computers.  Someone who works in Pharma should definitely know this claim was a lie.

So why would they make a claim like that?  Because they wanted people to take the drug and not think about the risks of the unknown drug versus the known risk (very low) of the Covid virus, versus other drugs and just plain old natural immunity.

That is not being wrong.  It is being wilfully ignorant.  Perverse.  Like the Jews who denied Christ's divinity even after He rose from the dead and appeared to multiple people.  Even after the Romans destroyed the temple as Jesus said they would.

In March 2013 giving Bergoglio the benefit of the doubt is perhaps charitable and prudent.  There quickly came a point where doing so made you weak minded, perverse or plain old perfidious.

Nobody who is good willed can believe that Bergoglio is a good and holy Pope today.

To be wrong about the evils of the vaccine rollout after the start of 2021 one had to ignore all the well reasoned arguments and evidence presented on this forum and believe that they knew better than several dozen Traditional Catholics.  That is extremely arrogant and it proved to be dead wrong.

[josh987654321]

As healthcare workers, my husband and I were required to vaccinate to keep our jobs. Today, my employer is no longer mandating the Covid vaccine. My husband's employer only recently stopped the mandate. Neither of us plan to vaccinate further as more evidence of long-term AEs becomes available.

Better late than never.

I'll be keen to read anything you come across in the industry, the fact they mandated an experimental jab in the first place is itself a crime against humanity that is clearly outlined in the Nuremburg code, but it all means nothing when it comes to radical ideologues. Just goes to show that laws and rights etc are as worthless as the paper they are written on unless the people themselves are moral, humble and have integrity, aka God fearing people.

Blind Freddy could see that forcing an experimental 'gene therapy' on the whole population could easily have disastrous consequences (if it goes bad you've just murdered everyone, is man infallible?... unbelievable arrogance) and was not even necessary or even appropriate when taking into account natural immunity and personal risk factors. 

Something I am seeing now is some people saying "I regret my decision" but there is a major, major problem with this, because it was only partially their decision, because we were all coerced and threatened in every conceivable way, so the culpability here is mitigated and it's those like Dr Fauci, Bill Gates, Tedros at the WHO, Pfizer CEO, Moderna etc etc that are all the real guilty parties that MUST be held to account for their crimes and most especially the mainstream media (propaganda)!

We have been lied to and deceived on a massive scale never seen before in my lifetime and we still don't know the full ramifications of these jabs. All of this is totally unacceptable and none of the major players involved have been held to account or made to answer for these crimes. At the very minimum, all data from Pfizer, Moderna etc should be taken over by a third party and completely released and available for all to better assess what billions of people have taken. No proprietary or confidentiality bullshit with these fraudsters and criminals. 

Many of these criminals were careful to obtain plausible deniability at the time (such as our Prime Minister in Australia), which is proof of malicious intent, because if they believed their own propaganda then there was no need to obtain plausible deniability or try to cover themselves.

God Bless

[josh987654321]

No one cares, lauermar - piss off

No need for this. Also not helpful, just like the Trump thread you created before, don't know what your thinking but it's toxic and ensures your own destruction. Division, division and division = easy prey. You were correct to criticize Trump regarding IVF, I can only hope he is ignorant, nevertheless, the way it was done was toxic and disastrous IMO, like relishing in the fall of others and negative developments.  

Reporting this.

No need for this either IMO, are we adults here? Reminds of the following -

6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to be judged before the unjust, and not before the saints?

2 Know you not that the saints shall judge this world? And if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3 Know you not that we shall judge angels? how much more things of this world?

4 If therefore you have judgments of things pertaining to this world, set them to judge, who are the most despised in the church.

5 I speak to your shame. Is it so that there is not among you any one wise man, that is able to judge between his brethren?

6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before unbelievers.

God Bless

[diaduit]

Josh I agree its better late than never but what I find with the regret camp is that they do not acknowledge their actions were the nail in the coffin for freedom of movement by establishing a vaccine cert for travel which is coming back at some stage in the very near future with next fake pandemic.

  Now if the regret camp are humble enough to apologise and learn from their own behaviours, that would ensure a better commitment to resisting going forward.  However what is very common in the regret camp (not you Josh)is an attitude of oh maybe I shouldn't have taken that jab as its affecting ME but lets all forget my arrogant and malicious attacks (most of my ex covid friends and family)so that in the future when the next fake pandemic arrives its a case of - I don't do accountability and therefore I will become that same person again. 

When we leave confession after telling our sins and getting forgiven part of the deal is to do penance and repair the damage done.  God in His wisdom understands that this is character building and makes the soul stronger to resist temptation.

I see this alot with my pre covid circle, once the country opened up its back to having the craic and going on holidays. Without introspection and coming to an understanding of our wrongdoings, these people will do it again.  I include myself in that as some of my flawed behaviours especially anger needed to be checked and I am working on it.

I'm glad Lauremar has come to her senses but I see her posts as an window into how those covid ninnies whose mindset hasn't changed since covid was over.....these behaviours are only lurking under the surface until the squeeze come again if they don't have the humility to see what they did was wrong, Lauremar regrets her decision to vaccinate for herself alone and not for what her hysterical actions during the whole covid, did to society.

[Greg]

I'm sure all those Chinese, Russian and Germans who stood by and did nothing while their neighbours were dragged to the death camps regret it too.

Too late.  Damage is done.  You picked your side and we all know what you'll do next time any pressure is applied.  Fold like a cheap suit and sell out.

Every "died suddenly" and vaccine injured person, I have zero sympathy for unless they can show me a social media post where the person said back in 2021-22.  "I had to have the vaccine to keep my job but I stand with those who wish to remain unvaccinated and defend their right to do that".

Number of those social media posts is vanishingly small.  When 99.99% of vaccinated are jabbed they don't say a single word in defence of those who don't want the jab.