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Title: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Someone1776 on March 14, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
In these three readings I see that there is something in common: it is movement. In the first reading, movement is the journey [itself]; in the second reading, movement is in the up-building of the Church. In the third, in the Gospel, the movement is in [the act of] profession: walking, building, professing.

Walking: the House of Jacob. "O house of Jacob, Come, let us walk in the light of the Lord." This is the first thing God said to Abraham: "Walk in my presence and be blameless." Walking: our life is a journey and when we stop, there is something wrong. Walking always, in the presence of the Lord, in the light of the Lord, seeking to live with that blamelessness, which God asks of Abraham, in his promise.

Building: to build the Church. There is talk of stones: stones have consistency, but [the stones spoken of are] living stones, stones anointed by the Holy Spirit. Build up the Church, the Bride of Christ, the cornerstone of which is the same Lord. With [every] movement in our lives, let us build!

Third, professing: we can walk as much we want, we can build many things, but if we do not confess Jesus Christ, nothing will avail. We will become a pitiful NGO, but not the Church, the Bride of Christ. When one does not walk, one stalls. When one does not built on solid rocks, what happens? What happens is what happens to children on the beach when they make sandcastles: everything collapses, it is without consistency. When one does not profess Jesus Christ - I recall the phrase of Leon Bloy – "Whoever does not pray to God, prays to the devil." When one does not profess Jesus Christ, one professes the worldliness of the devil.

Walking, building-constructing, professing: the thing, however, is not so easy, because in walking, in building, in professing, there are sometimes shake-ups - there are movements that are not part of the path: there are movements that pull us back.

This Gospel continues with a special situation. The same Peter who confessed Jesus Christ, says, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. I will follow you, but let us not speak of the Cross. This has nothing to do with it." He says, "I'll follow you on other ways, that do not include the Cross." When we walk without the Cross, when we build without the Cross, and when we profess Christ without the Cross, we are not disciples of the Lord. We are worldly, we are bishops, priests, cardinals, Popes, but not disciples of the Lord.

I would like that all of us, after these days of grace, might have the courage - the courage - to walk in the presence of the Lord, with the Cross of the Lord: to build the Church on the Blood of the Lord, which is shed on the Cross, and to profess the one glory, Christ Crucified. In this way, the Church will go forward.

My hope for all of us is that the Holy Spirit, that the prayer of Our Lady, our Mother, might grant us this grace: to walk, to build, to profess Jesus Christ Crucified. So be it.
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Someone1776 on March 14, 2013, 01:24:47 PM
Oh, I posted this in the wrong forum :(
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Bonaventure on March 14, 2013, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Someone1776 on March 14, 2013, 01:24:47 PM
Oh, I posted this in the wrong forum :(

You did?
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Someone1776 on March 14, 2013, 03:32:52 PM
This should be in general Catholic news, not general information.
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Kaesekopf on March 14, 2013, 05:24:25 PM
You are literally why we can't have nice things.
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Someone1776 on March 14, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
Why don't you guys move to the correct forum rather than standing around doing nothing?
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: EcceQuamBonum on March 14, 2013, 05:37:08 PM
Quote from: Someone1776 on March 14, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
Why don't you guys move to the correct forum rather than standing around doing nothing?

Isn't it more fun to criticize and make you feel foolish?   ;D
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Kaesekopf on March 14, 2013, 05:39:14 PM
Quote from: EcceQuamBonum on March 14, 2013, 05:37:08 PM
Quote from: Someone1776 on March 14, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
Why don't you guys move to the correct forum rather than standing around doing nothing?

Isn't it more fun to criticize and make you feel foolish?   ;D

This.

I mean, seriously.  How do you post this in the General Information subforum?

Toot toot!  All aboard the failboat!

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Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Gottmitunsalex on March 14, 2013, 07:02:32 PM
Pope Francis' first Papal Sermon in Suscipe Domines' General Info subforum.
From non other than Someone1776.

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Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
All of this talk of building is making me think of Masons... and of Anna Katerina Emmerich's prophecy about the building of a massive apostate church. Miserere nobis!
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Irenaeus G. Saintonge on March 15, 2013, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
All of this talk of building is making me think of Masons... and of Anna Katerina Emmerich's prophecy about the building of a massive apostate church. Miserere nobis!

That sounds like rather a stretch to me. You will find building metaphors in Scripture as well.
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
All of this talk of building is making me think of Masons... and of Anna Katerina Emmerich's prophecy about the building of a massive apostate church. Miserere nobis!

Indeed - I cannot but remember with irony the 'brick by brick' nonsense of men like Fr. Z.
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Someone1776 on March 15, 2013, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
All of this talk of building is making me think of Masons... and of Anna Katerina Emmerich's prophecy about the building of a massive apostate church. Miserere nobis!

Indeed - I cannot but remember with irony the 'brick by brick' nonsense of men like Fr. Z.

And that bit about how the stone the builders have rejected has become the cornerstone. 
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: tmw89 on March 15, 2013, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: Someone1776 on March 15, 2013, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
All of this talk of building is making me think of Masons... and of Anna Katerina Emmerich's prophecy about the building of a massive apostate church. Miserere nobis!

Indeed - I cannot but remember with irony the 'brick by brick' nonsense of men like Fr. Z.

And that bit about how the stone the builders have rejected has become the cornerstone.

Oh, please.
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Irenaeus G. Saintonge on March 15, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
Quote from: tmw89 on March 15, 2013, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: Someone1776 on March 15, 2013, 04:27:18 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: PatrickG on March 15, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
All of this talk of building is making me think of Masons... and of Anna Katerina Emmerich's prophecy about the building of a massive apostate church. Miserere nobis!

Indeed - I cannot but remember with irony the 'brick by brick' nonsense of men like Fr. Z.

And that bit about how the stone the builders have rejected has become the cornerstone.

Oh, please.

It makes a lot more sense than some kind of tenuous Masonic connection. Come on now.
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: ChairmanJoeAintMyPrez on August 15, 2023, 01:39:23 PM
@Bonaventure do you have anything to add to this thread?
Title: Re: NO News: Pope Francis' First Papal Sermon
Post by: Bonaventure on August 15, 2023, 01:56:55 PM
Quote from: ChairmanJoeAintMyPrez on August 15, 2023, 01:39:23 PM@Bonaventure do you have anything to add to this thread?

If I did, I am 10 years too late.