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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2021, 07:30:51 AM »
Were you bullied in school or something?
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2021, 02:28:56 PM »
Were you bullied in school or something?

Sacramentals are sacred.  When you blur the lines between the lay state, and the religious/clerical state, you do not do anyone any favors.  A rosary about ones neck, even when tucked in, is not well hidden.  You do not have to wear your religion on your sleeve in order to save your soul.  I would argue as a lay person, it is easier to save your soul keeping your religion somewhat discreet.  This is what is known as being faithful to ones state in life.
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2021, 02:37:37 PM »
It's kinda true.

Just speaking in broad strokes here (not every single individual), if you see a St. Benedict medal hanging on the rear-view mirror, that person is probably a solid Catholic.

But if you see a Rosary hanging on the mirror, much more likely a "I spent 12 years in Catholic school, so I can tell you why contraception is OK" type.  Probably received it as a gift and never gave any
thought to praying it because they don't understand its importance and were never taught about its promises.

At least in the United States.  Other countries may be different, but it's not like this ignorance isn't present in every culture.
 

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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2021, 03:14:55 PM »
On the other hand we shouldn't be ashamed of showing our Faith.  Wearing a Rosary around your neck or on the rear view mirror could actually be a way of spreading our Faith.

"For he that shall be ashamed of me, and of my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation: the Son of man also will be ashamed of him, when he shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38)

"For he that shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him the Son of man shall be ashamed, when he shall come in his majesty, and that of his Father, and of the holy angels." (Luke 9:26)
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2021, 11:30:36 PM »
On the other hand we shouldn't be ashamed of showing our Faith.  Wearing a Rosary around your neck or on the rear view mirror could actually be a way of spreading our Faith.

"For he that shall be ashamed of me, and of my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation: the Son of man also will be ashamed of him, when he shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38)

"For he that shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him the Son of man shall be ashamed, when he shall come in his majesty, and that of his Father, and of the holy angels." (Luke 9:26)

Jesus also said, "these people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me".  Do you know the significance of that passage?  Speech is the greatest form of communication.   And yet, people can honor God with their speech, and yet not Honor God at all.  Likewise, people can honor the rosary, and not honor God at all.  Denial of that reality is evidence of idolatry.
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2021, 12:10:52 AM »
On the other hand we shouldn't be ashamed of showing our Faith.  Wearing a Rosary around your neck or on the rear view mirror could actually be a way of spreading our Faith.

"For he that shall be ashamed of me, and of my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation: the Son of man also will be ashamed of him, when he shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38)

"For he that shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him the Son of man shall be ashamed, when he shall come in his majesty, and that of his Father, and of the holy angels." (Luke 9:26)

Jesus also said, "these people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me".  Do you know the significance of that passage?  Speech is the greatest form of communication.   And yet, people can honor God with their speech, and yet not Honor God at all.  Likewise, people can honor the rosary, and not honor God at all.  Denial of that reality is evidence of idolatry.

 :rofl:  I highly doubt that Bernadette or anyone else here that is willing to wear a set of Rosary beads is a gang member.  Don't be ashamed of Him Philip.
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2021, 12:43:06 AM »
On the other hand we shouldn't be ashamed of showing our Faith.  Wearing a Rosary around your neck or on the rear view mirror could actually be a way of spreading our Faith.

"For he that shall be ashamed of me, and of my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation: the Son of man also will be ashamed of him, when he shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38)

"For he that shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him the Son of man shall be ashamed, when he shall come in his majesty, and that of his Father, and of the holy angels." (Luke 9:26)

Jesus also said, "these people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me".  Do you know the significance of that passage?  Speech is the greatest form of communication.   And yet, people can honor God with their speech, and yet not Honor God at all.  Likewise, people can honor the rosary, and not honor God at all.  Denial of that reality is evidence of idolatry.

 :rofl:  I highly doubt that Bernadette or anyone else here that is willing to wear a set of Rosary beads is a gang member.  Don't be ashamed of Him Philip.

I am ashamed of you, and others like you.
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2021, 12:48:02 AM »
On the other hand we shouldn't be ashamed of showing our Faith.  Wearing a Rosary around your neck or on the rear view mirror could actually be a way of spreading our Faith.

"For he that shall be ashamed of me, and of my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation: the Son of man also will be ashamed of him, when he shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38)

"For he that shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him the Son of man shall be ashamed, when he shall come in his majesty, and that of his Father, and of the holy angels." (Luke 9:26)

Jesus also said, "these people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me".  Do you know the significance of that passage?  Speech is the greatest form of communication.   And yet, people can honor God with their speech, and yet not Honor God at all.  Likewise, people can honor the rosary, and not honor God at all.  Denial of that reality is evidence of idolatry.

 :rofl:  I highly doubt that Bernadette or anyone else here that is willing to wear a set of Rosary beads is a gang member.  Don't be ashamed of Him Philip.

I am ashamed of you, and others like you.

Coming from you that's like water off a duck.
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2021, 01:22:05 PM »
For those who are interested, here is St. Louis De Montfort in "The Secret of the Rosary", (The Eighth Rose) https://www.ecatholic2000.com/montfort/rosary/rosary.shtml
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Alphonsus, King of Leon and Galicia, very much wanted all his servants to honor the Blessed Virgin by saying the Rosary. So he used to hang a large rosary on his belt and always wore it, but unfortunately never said it himself. Nevertheless his wearing it encouraged his courtiers to say the Rosary very devoutly.

One day the King fell seriously ill and when he was given up for dead he found himself, in a vision, before the judgment seat of Our Lord. Many devils were there accusing him of all the sins he had committed and Our Lord as Sovereign Judge was just about to condemn him to Hell when Our Lady appeared to intercede for him. She called for a pair of scales and had his sins placed in one of the balances whereas she put the Rosary that he had always worn on the other scale, together, with all the Rosaries that had been said because of his example. It was found that the Rosaries weighed more than his sins.

Looking at him with great kindness Our Lady said: “As a reward for this little honor that you paid me in wearing my Rosary, I have obtained a great grace for you from my Son. Your life will be spared for a few more years. See that you spend these years wisely, and do penance.”

When the King regained consciousness he cried out: “Blessed be the Rosary of the Most Holy Virgin Mary, by which I have been delivered from eternal damnation!”

After he had recovered his health he spent the rest of his life in spreading devotion to the Holy Rosary and said it faithfully everyday.

People who love the Blessed Virgin ought to follow the example of King Alphonsus and that of the Saints whom I have mentioned so that they too may win other souls for the Confraternity of the Holy Rosary. They will then receive great graces on earth and eternal life later on. “They that explain me shall have life everlasting.”
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2021, 01:28:49 PM »
More from St. Louis (Twenty Seventh Rose)
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Blessed Alan said that a man he knew of had desperately tried all kinds of devotions to rid himself of the evil spirit who possessed him, but without success. Finally he thought of wearing his Rosary around his neck, which eased him considerably. He discovered that whenever he took it off the devil tormented him cruelly, so he resolved to wear it night and day. This drove the evil spirit away forever, because he could not bear such a terrible chain. Blessed Alan also testified that he had delivered a large number of people who were possessed by putting the Rosary around their necks.
Father Jean Amat, of the Order of St. Dominic, was giving a series of Lenten sermons in the Kingdom of Aragon one year, when a young girl was brought to him who was possessed by the devil. After he had exorcised her several times without success he put his rosary around her neck. Hardly had he done so than the girl began to scream and yell in a fearful way, shrieking: “Take them off! Take them off! These beads are torturing me!” At last the Father, filled with pity for the girl, took his rosary off her.
The very next night when Father Amat was in bed, the same devils who had possession of the girl came to him foaming with rage and tried to seize him. But he had his rosary clasped in his hand and no efforts of theirs could wrench it from him. He managed to beat them with it very well indeed and chased them away, crying out: “Holy Mary, Our Lady of the Holy Rosary, come to my help!”
The next day when he went to the Church he met the poor girl—still possessed—and one of the devils within her started to laugh and said in a mocking voice: “Well, Brother, if you had been without your rosary, we should have made short shrift of you!” Then the good Father threw his rosary around the girl’s neck without more ado and said: “By the sacred name of Jesus and that of Mary His Holy Mother, and by the power of the Most Holy Rosary I command you, evil spirits, to leave the body of this girl,” and they were immediately forced to obey and she was delivered from them.
These stories show the power of the Holy Rosary in overcoming all possible temptations that evil spirits may bring—and also all kinds of sin—because these blessed beads put devils to rout.
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2021, 01:35:35 PM »
More, (Thirty First Rose):
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Alphonsus VIII, King of Aragon and Castille, had been leading a disorderly life and therefore had been punished by God in several ways, one of these being that he was worsted in battle and had to take refuge in a city belonging to one of his allies.
Saint Dominic happened to be in this city on Christmas Day and preached on the Holy Rosary as he always did, pointing out how great are the graces that we can obtain through it. He mentioned, among other things, that those who said the Rosary devoutly would overcome their enemies and would regain all that they had lost in warfare.
The King listened attentively and sent for Saint Dominic to ask if what he had said about the Rosary was really true. Saint Dominic assured him that nothing was more true, and that if only he would practice this devotion and join the Confraternity, he would see for himself. The King firmly resolved to say his Rosary every day and persevered for a year in doing so. The very next Christmas Our Lady appeared to him at the end of his Rosary and said: “Alphonsus, you have served me for a year by saying my Rosary devoutly every day, so I have come to reward you: I have obtained the forgiveness of your sins from my Son. And I am going to give you this rosary; wear it, and I promise you that none of your enemies will ever be able to harm you again.”
Our Lady vanished leaving the King overjoyed and greatly encouraged; he immediately went in search of the Queen to tell her all about Our Lady’s gift and the promise that went with it. He held the rosary to her eyes (she had been blind for some time) and her sight was instantly restored.
Shortly afterwards the King rallied some troops with the help of his allies and boldly attacked his enemies. He forced them to give back the territory that they had taken from him and to make amends for their other offences against him, and put them completely to rout. In fact, he became so lucky in war that soldiers rushed from all sides to fight under his standard because it seemed that whenever he went to battle the victory was sure to be his.
This is not surprising because he never went to battle without first saying his Rosary devoutly on his knees. He made certain that all the members of his court joined the Confraternity of the Most Holy Rosary and he also saw that his officers and servants were devoted to it.
The Queen joined the Confraternity and started saying the Rosary too, and she and her husband persevered in Our Lady’s service and lived really holy lives.
This is significant, because it is our Blessed Mother who instructed the King to wear the Rosary; who can argue about this?
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"My brothers, all of you, if you are condemned to see the triumph of evil, never applaud it. Never say to evil: you are good; to decadence: you are progess; to death: you are life. Sanctify yourselves in the times wherein God has placed you; bewail the evils and the disorders which God tolerates; oppose them with the energy of your works and your efforts, your life uncontaminated by error, free from being led astray, in such a way that having lived here below, united with the Spirit of the Lord, you will be admitted to be made but one with Him forever and ever: But he who is joined to the Lord is one in spirit." Cardinal Pie of Potiers
 
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2021, 01:40:00 PM »
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Othère was also a Breton soldier, from Vaucouleurs, and he often put whole companies of heretics or robbers to flight unaided, wearing his Rosary on his arm or carrying it on the hilt of his sword. Once when he had beaten them his enemies admitted that they had seen his sword gleam and that another time they had noticed a shield on his arm which had pictures of Our Lord and Our Lady and the Saints upon it. This shield made him invisible and gave him the strength to attack well.
Another time he defeated twenty thousand heretics with only ten companies and without losing a single man. This so impressed the general of the heretics’ army that he came to see Othère afterwards, abjured his heresy and declared publicly that he had seen him surrounded by flaming swords during the battle.
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"My brothers, all of you, if you are condemned to see the triumph of evil, never applaud it. Never say to evil: you are good; to decadence: you are progess; to death: you are life. Sanctify yourselves in the times wherein God has placed you; bewail the evils and the disorders which God tolerates; oppose them with the energy of your works and your efforts, your life uncontaminated by error, free from being led astray, in such a way that having lived here below, united with the Spirit of the Lord, you will be admitted to be made but one with Him forever and ever: But he who is joined to the Lord is one in spirit." Cardinal Pie of Potiers
 
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2021, 01:52:37 PM »
More, (Thirty First Rose):
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Alphonsus VIII, King of Aragon and Castille, had been leading a disorderly life and therefore had been punished by God in several ways, one of these being that he was worsted in battle and had to take refuge in a city belonging to one of his allies.
Saint Dominic happened to be in this city on Christmas Day and preached on the Holy Rosary as he always did, pointing out how great are the graces that we can obtain through it. He mentioned, among other things, that those who said the Rosary devoutly would overcome their enemies and would regain all that they had lost in warfare.
The King listened attentively and sent for Saint Dominic to ask if what he had said about the Rosary was really true. Saint Dominic assured him that nothing was more true, and that if only he would practice this devotion and join the Confraternity, he would see for himself. The King firmly resolved to say his Rosary every day and persevered for a year in doing so. The very next Christmas Our Lady appeared to him at the end of his Rosary and said: “Alphonsus, you have served me for a year by saying my Rosary devoutly every day, so I have come to reward you: I have obtained the forgiveness of your sins from my Son. And I am going to give you this rosary; wear it, and I promise you that none of your enemies will ever be able to harm you again.”
Our Lady vanished leaving the King overjoyed and greatly encouraged; he immediately went in search of the Queen to tell her all about Our Lady’s gift and the promise that went with it. He held the rosary to her eyes (she had been blind for some time) and her sight was instantly restored.
Shortly afterwards the King rallied some troops with the help of his allies and boldly attacked his enemies. He forced them to give back the territory that they had taken from him and to make amends for their other offences against him, and put them completely to rout. In fact, he became so lucky in war that soldiers rushed from all sides to fight under his standard because it seemed that whenever he went to battle the victory was sure to be his.
This is not surprising because he never went to battle without first saying his Rosary devoutly on his knees. He made certain that all the members of his court joined the Confraternity of the Most Holy Rosary and he also saw that his officers and servants were devoted to it.
The Queen joined the Confraternity and started saying the Rosary too, and she and her husband persevered in Our Lady’s service and lived really holy lives.
This is significant, because it is our Blessed Mother who instructed the King to wear the Rosary; who can argue about this?

I was wrong and have been convinced.  I would consider wearing it or displaying it (in addition, obviously, to saying it at least daily.)
 
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2021, 02:17:43 PM »
More, (Thirty First Rose):
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Alphonsus VIII, King of Aragon and Castille, had been leading a disorderly life and therefore had been punished by God in several ways, one of these being that he was worsted in battle and had to take refuge in a city belonging to one of his allies.
Saint Dominic happened to be in this city on Christmas Day and preached on the Holy Rosary as he always did, pointing out how great are the graces that we can obtain through it. He mentioned, among other things, that those who said the Rosary devoutly would overcome their enemies and would regain all that they had lost in warfare.
The King listened attentively and sent for Saint Dominic to ask if what he had said about the Rosary was really true. Saint Dominic assured him that nothing was more true, and that if only he would practice this devotion and join the Confraternity, he would see for himself. The King firmly resolved to say his Rosary every day and persevered for a year in doing so. The very next Christmas Our Lady appeared to him at the end of his Rosary and said: “Alphonsus, you have served me for a year by saying my Rosary devoutly every day, so I have come to reward you: I have obtained the forgiveness of your sins from my Son. And I am going to give you this rosary; wear it, and I promise you that none of your enemies will ever be able to harm you again.”
Our Lady vanished leaving the King overjoyed and greatly encouraged; he immediately went in search of the Queen to tell her all about Our Lady’s gift and the promise that went with it. He held the rosary to her eyes (she had been blind for some time) and her sight was instantly restored.
Shortly afterwards the King rallied some troops with the help of his allies and boldly attacked his enemies. He forced them to give back the territory that they had taken from him and to make amends for their other offences against him, and put them completely to rout. In fact, he became so lucky in war that soldiers rushed from all sides to fight under his standard because it seemed that whenever he went to battle the victory was sure to be his.
This is not surprising because he never went to battle without first saying his Rosary devoutly on his knees. He made certain that all the members of his court joined the Confraternity of the Most Holy Rosary and he also saw that his officers and servants were devoted to it.
The Queen joined the Confraternity and started saying the Rosary too, and she and her husband persevered in Our Lady’s service and lived really holy lives.
This is significant, because it is our Blessed Mother who instructed the King to wear the Rosary; who can argue about this?

I was wrong and have been convinced.  I would consider wearing it or displaying it (in addition, obviously, to saying it at least daily.)

I'm legitimately curious why we have such pullback to wearing it, when we wear other symbols so freely.

Is it just because Mexican gangstas and wanna-be fashionistas wear it a lot?
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Re: Rosary necklace?
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2021, 07:14:50 PM »

I'm legitimately curious why we have such pullback to wearing it, when we wear other symbols so freely.

Is it just because Mexican gangstas and wanna-be fashionistas wear it a lot?

I don't know for sure but I wouldn't doubt if that's the main reason.  Well and like I've said, being ashamed to show that we are Catholic.
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