President Trump, First Lady test positive for COVID-19

[Lynne]

I am still waiting to hear Trump's motive.

What would induce a billionaire to fake support for the right, have his personal life investigated, his past marital affairs revealed, his family threatened, his taxes looked into ?

What can the NWO offer him to compensate for that?

And why would the NWO want a 4 year delay with their fake right-wing stooge at the helm.  What can they do in 2020 that they could not do in 2016?

This question requires an answer if your theory that he is a stooge is to be given ANY credibility at all.

Exactly!

After 8 years under Obama, the US economy was on the ropes and conservatives were demoralized. If another neocon do-nothing Republican like Romney or McCain had gotten the nomination, conservative voting would have been depressed. The NWO expected to win in 2016.

[Greg]

Trumps motive might be to be allowed to keep his millions or face the wrath of the puppet masters.  Note, I said might...its only a theory.

Why would they have taken away his millions if he had simply remained a billionaire private citizen and not run for President?

There are lots of non-political billionaires who just focus on their companies.  Are they all going to be stripped of their billions by the new world order?

Or are you suggesting he ran for President wanting to be the darling of the right-wing patriotic Americans, and then the day after the inauguration in Jan 2017 someone unknown came and threatened him and asked him to carry on pissing off the left until in 2020 he would do a switcheroo.

Why would Trump not just secretly record their demands and expose them?  He is President.

I don't know why they waited, why did Hitler wait until 1939 to invade Poland, why not 4 years earlier?

Because he needed to build up the German Military.  He only began to do that in 1935.  If he had invaded Poland with untrained and newly equipped troops unfamiliar with their weapons he would have been defeated by the Poles.

In addition he defeated Poland due to having a pact with the Soviets who invaded it at the same time.  Prior to that Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were fighting on opposite sides in the Spanish Civil war.

It was only after 31 March 1939 when Britain extended a guarantee to Poland and the Soviets were motivated to make a pact with the Nazis that he had the ability to invade Poland successfully and not cause the Soviet Union to prepare for war against him.

That is why Hitler did not invade Poland in 1935.  He was not capable of it.

The new world order has no reason to want to delay, but even if they did installing a wild-card like Trump would be a bat-shit crazy way to do it.

why in the hell would you pick Donald Trump?  The man is completely uncontrollable and has absolutely no filter.  Only God could pick such a loose cannon.


Pick Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Mike Tyson.  ANYBODY but Donald Trump.

the time is ripe in 2020 so send in some big Svengali figure head to collect all those against NWO to carry them through the final phase.

Bullshit.  2016 was no less "ripe" than 2020.  And in 2024 you could make the argument that they delayed 8 years with Trump as a distraction.  You are just making it up according to your fantasy.  You have no idea when "ripe" is and neither does anyone else.

Taken at face value, the most obvious conclusion is Trump is either a spanner God has thrown into the NWO machine (which according to Pope Leo only has a 100 year timeframe to destroy the church, so why waste 4 years if you are the devil?).  Or God actually intends Trump to lead the world back to some sort of sanity but I don't think God is that ambitious because Trump is unhinged.

My guess is the first.  Trump won't do much other than galvanise the right and get them ready for a fight.  He is just a big, brash, loud, annoying troll that the right can get behind and the left are driven crazy by.  He is no George Washington or Alexander the Great.  I think whatever happens over the next 4 months by next year bullets start flying in the USA.

I still think he wins this election, the democrats cheat and the anger and violence moves up 2 gears.

Your mistake is that you have never worked in a very large organisation and observed why projects succeed and fail.  The level of control you fear is not even close to being possible.  Humans are too selfish, lazy, greedy, treacherous to bring a plan even 10% as complex to fruition.

[Frank]

Trumps motive might be to be allowed to keep his millions or face the wrath of the puppet masters.  Note, I said might...its only a theory.

Why would they have taken away his millions if he had simply remained a billionaire private citizen and not run for President?

There are lots of non-political billionaires who just focus on their companies.  Are they all going to be stripped of their billions by the new world order?

Or are you suggesting he ran for President wanting to be the darling of the right-wing patriotic Americans, and then the day after the inauguration in Jan 2017 someone unknown came and threatened him and asked him to carry on pissing off the left until in 2020 he would do a switcheroo.

Why would Trump not just secretly record their demands and expose them?  He is President.

I don't know why they waited, why did Hitler wait until 1939 to invade Poland, why not 4 years earlier?

Because he needed to build up the German Military.  He only began to do that in 1935.  If he had invaded Poland with untrained and newly equipped troops unfamiliar with their weapons he would have been defeated by the Poles.

In addition he defeated Poland due to having a pact with the Soviets who invaded it at the same time.  Prior to that Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were fighting on opposite sides in the Spanish Civil war.

It was only after 31 March 1939 when Britain extended a guarantee to Poland and the Soviets were motivated to make a pact with the Nazis that he had the ability to invade Poland successfully and not cause the Soviet Union to prepare for war against him.

That is why Hitler did not invade Poland in 1935.  He was not capable of it.

The new world order has no reason to want to delay but installing a wild-card like Trump would be a bat-shit crazy way to do it.

And also why in the hell would you pick Donald Trump?  The man is completely uncontrollable and has absolutely no filter.  Only God could pick such a freak.

Pick Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Mike Tyson.  ANYBODY but Donald Trump.

the time is ripe in 2020 so send in some big Svengali figure head to collect all those against NWO to carry them through the final phase.

Bullshit.  2016 was no less "ripe" than 2020.  And in 2024 you could make the argument that they delayed 8 years with Trump as a distraction.  You are just making it up according to your fantasy.  You have no idea when "ripe" is and neither does anyone else.

Taken at face value, the most obvious conclusion is Trump is either a spanner God has thrown into the NWO machine (which according to Pope Leo only has a 100 year timeframe to destroy the church, so why waste 4 years if you are the devil?).  Or God actually intends Trump to lead the world back to some sort of sanity but I don't think God is that ambitious because Trump is unhinged.

My guess is the first.  Trump won't do much other than galvanise the right and get them ready for a fight.  He is just a big, brash, loud, annoying troll that the right can get behind.  He is no George Washington or Alexander the Great.  I think whatever happens over the next 4 months by next year bullets start flying in the USA.

I still think he wins this election, the democrats cheat and the anger and violence moves up 2 gears.

Your mistake is that you have never worked in a very large organisation.  The level of control you fear is not even close to being possible.  Humans are too selfish, lazy, greedy, treacherous to bring a plan even 10% as complex to fruition.

I worked in the largest organisation in Britain headed by the Cabinet Secretary.

Below is an example of the lack of control.

Not all people in Opus Dei are deep state actors.  In fact, I doubt more than 0.5% are.

As I said to Dr Blackman of Pikington Brothers when we disagreed on the safety of Glass Reinforced Cement.
"You are entitled to your opinion Dr Blackman and I am entitled to mine."
He started screaming,
"I'll hound you Grimer. I'll hound you, I'll hound you!"
He then burst into tears.

My Deputy Director then said,
"I can't have you speaking to my staff like that!"

Dr Evans of PB suggested the meeting should adjourn, so we all trooped off to the the bog.

Blackman got hold of the Materials Division Head, Dr Gutt, and said,
"That Grimer of yours, he's a communist isn't he" (I wore an Astrakhan hat)
"Oh no," said Gutt."
"He a very good Catholic."

Needless to say in 5 years all the GRC panels failed.

This morning I came across a good example of GRC panels that failed:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxcdDXBEWbs[/yt]

The blue cladding panels are Pilkington Bros GRC (glass reinforced cement) mentioned
in another thread. The panels failed after 5 years, as predicted, and let lime ooze out
through the cracks to give those disfiguring white streaks.

Every so often the panels would get repainted but within a relatively short space of time
the lime would come squeezing through the cracks again.

Still I will say one thing in their favour. The panels haven't fallen off unlike the soffit panel
under the Taf bridge in Wales,

My most memorable involvement in the aftermath of GRC failure was the time a
Dutch company wrote a letter a letter to BRS asking for help in suing Pilkingtons
for failure of their panels.

I wrote a memo to my division head suggesting that I sent them Note No 10 of
our strength tests showing that the material became completely brittle after 5 years.
Three days later I received a reply to my memo (signed by the Director, Dr Rex Watson,
an assistant director, Dr John Menzies and my division head) that I must under no
circumstances send that Note 10 to the Netherlands.

Being thoroughly pissed off by this I went to my security cabinet, packaged all 10
notes in a large envelope, wrote the Dutch address on the outside and put in the
out tray for the mail room.

Three days later I got a phone call from the firm. A rather conspiratorial voice
thanked for my help.

As for my bosses they never asked and I never said.

On reflection I think they were well aware of what I was likely to do and they just
wanted to cover their arses in case it blew up in their faces. How they would explain
not having checked up to see that the documents (they were all numbered) were
still in my possession, I can't imagine.

If enough people revolted against masks and lockdown the government would
soon find scientific advice to change their policy.

[diaduit]

Trumps motive might be to be allowed to keep his millions or face the wrath of the puppet masters.  Note, I said might...its only a theory.

Why would they have taken away his millions if he had simply remained a billionaire private citizen and not run for President?

There are lots of non-political billionaires who just focus on their companies.  Are they all going to be stripped of their billions by the new world order?

Or are you suggesting he ran for President wanting to be the darling of the right-wing patriotic Americans, and then the day after the inauguration in Jan 2017 someone unknown came and threatened him and asked him to carry on pissing off the left until in 2020 he would do a switcheroo.

Why would Trump not just secretly record their demands and expose them?  He is President.

I don't know why they waited, why did Hitler wait until 1939 to invade Poland, why not 4 years earlier?

Because he needed to build up the German Military.  He only began to do that in 1935.  If he had invaded Poland with untrained and newly equipped troops unfamiliar with their weapons he would have been defeated by the Poles.

In addition he defeated Poland due to having a pact with the Soviets who invaded it at the same time.  Prior to that Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were fighting on opposite sides in the Spanish Civil war.

It was only after 31 March 1939 when Britain extended a guarantee to Poland and the Soviets were motivated to make a pact with the Nazis that he had the ability to invade Poland successfully and not cause the Soviet Union to prepare for war against him.

That is why Hitler did not invade Poland in 1935.  He was not capable of it.

The new world order has no reason to want to delay, but even if they did installing a wild-card like Trump would be a bat-shit crazy way to do it.

why in the hell would you pick Donald Trump?  The man is completely uncontrollable and has absolutely no filter.  Only God could pick such a loose cannon.


Pick Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Mike Tyson.  ANYBODY but Donald Trump.

the time is ripe in 2020 so send in some big Svengali figure head to collect all those against NWO to carry them through the final phase.

Bullshit.  2016 was no less "ripe" than 2020.  And in 2024 you could make the argument that they delayed 8 years with Trump as a distraction.  You are just making it up according to your fantasy.  You have no idea when "ripe" is and neither does anyone else.

Taken at face value, the most obvious conclusion is Trump is either a spanner God has thrown into the NWO machine (which according to Pope Leo only has a 100 year timeframe to destroy the church, so why waste 4 years if you are the devil?).  Or God actually intends Trump to lead the world back to some sort of sanity but I don't think God is that ambitious because Trump is unhinged.

My guess is the first.  Trump won't do much other than galvanise the right and get them ready for a fight.  He is just a big, brash, loud, annoying troll that the right can get behind and the left are driven crazy by.  He is no George Washington or Alexander the Great.  I think whatever happens over the next 4 months by next year bullets start flying in the USA.

I still think he wins this election, the democrats cheat and the anger and violence moves up 2 gears.

Your mistake is that you have never worked in a very large organisation and observed why projects succeed and fail.  The level of control you fear is not even close to being possible.  Humans are too selfish, lazy, greedy, treacherous to bring a plan even 10% as complex to fruition.

No I don't have anything concrete and I could be wrong, hopefully I am.

I'm too fed up to go around in circles with you.....NPHET (our committee on CV) wants all of our country to go back to level 5 full lockdown again ....all because cases are gone through the roof but the deaths are minimal

[Greg]

Don't let the bastards turn you into a paranoid mental case then.

Donald Trump is not a double agent.  He is just a billionaire who likes trolling and phucking around with the levers of power.  You can tell by looking at his face that he is actually enjoying it.

I think he despise these idiots and just likes making them mad.  I think he likes the common American man who he has seen building his buildings for many years.  Such hard working people are admirable and I honestly believe Trump wants to go out as a hero to them and give them a fair shake.

All the evidence I have seen researching his past suggests to me that this is true.  His employees like him because he has the common touch.

[Greg]

Did the new world order tell him to go for a drive to see his supporters?

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1312868365963272192?s=20

The NWO must be smoking crack if they want Trump as President.  He is a balls out bonefide mad man.

[Bernadette]

I feel bad for his secret service men. No way I would get into a car with someone I knew was positive for covid. Frankly, I'm surprised his doctors allowed it.

[Greg]

They are ready to take a bullet.  I am sure they are not worried about getting a cold or flu.  They are fit healthy men.

He might not even have the virus.

[Miriam_M]

All the evidence I have seen researching his past suggests to me that this is true.  His employees like him because he has the common touch.

Correct. Which is why the overeducated MSM despises him, because he's not part of the Intellectual Elite who take themselves Very Seriously.

[diaduit]

Anybody know anything about this:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/28/michael-bloomberg/did-donald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/

I saw a post on fb that Trump fired the pandemic team in 2018 and put in a knew one.  Link above is from a fact check website which are notoriously anti Trump.  It seems he did a re shake alright but I can't see any other type of investigation on it.

[paul14]

[Greg]

We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US.  I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.

The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other.  Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time.  But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.

Trump just Tweeted the following

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070

I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

[diaduit]

We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US.  I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.

The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other.  Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time.  But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.

Trump just Tweeted the following

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070

I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

Greg, I'm so happy to see this....I'll start saving for your big steak

[awkwardcustomer]

We'll see, but I reckon that when Trump is re-elected he will turn, just like Boris, and begin a major NWO roll-out across the US.  I think diaduit has a bet with you on that.

The idea that Trump must be okay because the liberal elites hate him presupposes that members of elites have to like each other.  Kings, princes, barons, emperors, pharaohs, were always rivals and killed each other all the time.  But they never went so far as to threaten the power of the elites over us, the plebs.

Trump just Tweeted the following

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070

I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don't be afraid of Covid. Don't let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

This could be a very clever play by Trump. 

Trump beats Covid in next to no time, and at his age too.  So he appears strong.  But he is also wise enough to take the virus seriously and wear a mask now whenever in public.  This shows humility.  Meanwhile Joe Biden gives speeches in empty parking lots.

Trump says "Don't be afraid of Covid", again because he is strong.  But he also takes the virus very seriously because he's humble.

Therefore, if he wins, he is in prime position to start introducing more lockdowns, seeing as it's winter when flu runs riot and who can tell the difference, and then the vaccine, of course, which he has already said will be distributed "in a forceful manner".

BLM/Antifa members will also be queuing for the vaccine, so they might not be rioting so much, especially as it's winter.

[Greg]

When he wins all of the lockdowns will stop.  He wants the economy booming again and lockdowns don't assist with that.  When America stops the rest of the world will follow.

He had to play along with the lockdowns because it was an election year.  But once he has won and he cannot run again he has nothing to lose.  He will go the full Sweden model and just tell people to wash their hands and get on with life.  I reckon he will go nuts and finish that wall too if the civil rioting and fighting does not distract him

You must live in some sort of paranoia bubble awkward.  The first thing he did as President was overturn trade agreements and climate agreements.  These are not actions of someone pushing the NWO's agenda.  Neither is supporting Brexit which is totally anti-NWO.

Are you suggesting Nigel Farage is a new world order stooge?  What about Bishop Williamson?  Is he one too?

Where does it end?