Forum improvements?

[Michael Wilson]

I think that Kreuzritter's ban should be lifted.

Kaese probably did Kreuzritter a favor by banning him; it was apparent that he wasn't deriving any spiritual benefit from posting here; probably the opposite.

[Philip G.]

I think that encrypted vulgarities should be forbidden just as properly spelled vulgarities are.  It is becoming very common on the forum, and I don't think it is doing us any good. 

[Fleur-de-Lys]

I think that encrypted vulgarities should be forbidden just as properly spelled vulgarities are.  It is becoming very common on the forum, and I don't think it is doing us any good.

I agree. But what will that accomplish when the rule we already have against vulgarities isn't enforced?

[MundaCorMeum]

I think that encrypted vulgarities should be forbidden just as properly spelled vulgarities are.  It is becoming very common on the forum, and I don't think it is doing us any good.

I agree. But what will that accomplish when the rule we already have against vulgarities isn't enforced?

Indeed.  What we actually need on the forum is consistent moderation.

[Philip G.]

I think that encrypted vulgarities should be forbidden just as properly spelled vulgarities are.  It is becoming very common on the forum, and I don't think it is doing us any good.

I agree. But what will that accomplish when the rule we already have against vulgarities isn't enforced?

Encrypted vulgarities in my opinion have paved the way for the open vulgarities we are currently seeing.  The open vulgarities are not as common, and as a result can be managed easier by moderator notification than encrypted vulgarities.  However, if a rule is established against encrypted vulgarities, I think that broad measure is suited for that more broad problem.  People of good will try to follow rules.  Make a new rule. 

[Miriam_M]

I do not know what "encrypted" vulgarities mean, but any literate person recognizes a published vulgarity when he or she reads or hears it.  I do not believe that gross language belongs in a traditional Catholic discussion forum.  When we use gutter language, we bring ourselves down to the gutter.  And if the person being criticized does himself use gutter (toilet or sexual) language, why imitate him, if he is so despicable?

[Philip G.]

I do not know what "encrypted" vulgarities mean, but any literate person recognizes a published vulgarity when he or she reads or hears it.  I do not believe that gross language belongs in a traditional Catholic discussion forum.  When we use gutter language, we bring ourselves down to the gutter.  And if the person being criticized does himself use gutter (toilet or sexual) language, why imitate him, if he is so despicable?

The "F" word seems to be a favorite encrypted vulgarity.  Instead of spelling out the word properly, they will use stars to spell out part of the word, or they will spell it the way it sounds.  There are numerous ways to incorporate these vulgarities without breaking the letter of the law.  And, either way, within the context, we all know what they are saying; which, is why it is being done.  And, again, it is paving the way for the open vulgarities that are becoming more common.  It really ruins the conversation on multiple levels in my opinion. 

[Philip G.]

I think that encrypted vulgarities should be forbidden just as properly spelled vulgarities are.  It is becoming very common on the forum, and I don't think it is doing us any good.

I agree. But what will that accomplish when the rule we already have against vulgarities isn't enforced?

Indeed.  What we actually need on the forum is consistent moderation.

If you want to become a forum watchdog and notify the moderator every time vulgarities occur, God bless you.  But, I am of the type that likes to stop a problem before it occurs.  And, that means avoiding/preventing near occasions.  Encrypted vulgarities are near occasions.  And, us, as salt of the earth can easily prevent this by follow the rules.  All we need now is a rule. 

[red solo cup]

Forum Rules, #2 under Conduct.

[Jayne]

Indeed.  What we actually need on the forum is consistent moderation.

This forum was founded with a team of moderators and the rules were made with an assumption that multiple people would be available to enforce them.  We have since lost all the moderators, other than the forum owner KK who obviously does not have the time to do that work.

He did have plans to appoint some new moderators but, for some reason, has been unable to carry them out.  I can understand that they would be difficult to recruit.  Being a forum moderator tends to be a thankless and time-consuming job.  Also, I have noticed that the people who want to be moderators are often people whom I consider ineligible for the task.

In any event, the solution to having members who regular flout the existing rules against profanity is clearly not having stricter rules against profanity. 

[Jayne]

Forum Rules, #2 under Conduct.

This rule is:

Vulgarities are forbidden on this forum.  You are not "in person" here, so you have time to compose and edit your thoughts. Please exercise that ability.

This already represents a stricter rule against profanity than the way it was originally phrased.  At first, the rule was to avoid profanity.  Enough posters showed a lack of prudence in this area that the rule was changed. 

As we can see, a stricter rule has not stopped vulgarity on the forum.  Certain people will write this way unless they are forced to stop.

[LausTibiChriste]

Forum Rules, #2 under Conduct.

This rule is:

Vulgarities are forbidden on this forum.  You are not "in person" here, so you have time to compose and edit your thoughts. Please exercise that ability.

This already represents a stricter rule against profanity than the way it was originally phrased.  At first, the rule was to avoid profanity.  Enough posters showed a lack of prudence in this area that the rule was changed. 

As we can see, a stricter rule has not stopped vulgarity on the forum.  Certain people will write this way unless they are forced to stop.

Oh fuck off.

[Sempronius]

Forum Rules, #2 under Conduct.

This rule is:

Vulgarities are forbidden on this forum.  You are not "in person" here, so you have time to compose and edit your thoughts. Please exercise that ability.

This already represents a stricter rule against profanity than the way it was originally phrased.  At first, the rule was to avoid profanity.  Enough posters showed a lack of prudence in this area that the rule was changed. 

As we can see, a stricter rule has not stopped vulgarity on the forum.  Certain people will write this way unless they are forced to stop.

Oh fuck off.

What a disgrace. I have tougher friends than you that never curse. But somehow its a badge of honour to swear on this forum.

[LausTibiChriste]

Forum Rules, #2 under Conduct.

This rule is:

Vulgarities are forbidden on this forum.  You are not "in person" here, so you have time to compose and edit your thoughts. Please exercise that ability.

This already represents a stricter rule against profanity than the way it was originally phrased.  At first, the rule was to avoid profanity.  Enough posters showed a lack of prudence in this area that the rule was changed. 

As we can see, a stricter rule has not stopped vulgarity on the forum.  Certain people will write this way unless they are forced to stop.

Oh fuck off.

What a disgrace. I have tougher friends than you that never curse. But somehow its a badge of honour to swear on this forum.

For a forum where something like 75% of ya claim to be Irish, to one degree or another, there sure is a lot of pushback on the language.

And swearing rarely has to do with being 'tough'

[Vetus Ordo]

Forum Rules, #2 under Conduct.

This rule is:

Vulgarities are forbidden on this forum.  You are not "in person" here, so you have time to compose and edit your thoughts. Please exercise that ability.

This already represents a stricter rule against profanity than the way it was originally phrased.  At first, the rule was to avoid profanity.  Enough posters showed a lack of prudence in this area that the rule was changed. 

As we can see, a stricter rule has not stopped vulgarity on the forum.  Certain people will write this way unless they are forced to stop.

Oh fuck off.

What a disgrace. I have tougher friends than you that never curse. But somehow its a badge of honour to swear on this forum.

For a forum where something like 75% of ya claim to be Irish, to one degree or another, there sure is a lot of pushback on the language.

And swearing rarely has to do with being 'tough'

Exactly.

Swearing has nothing to do with toughness and everything to do with a darkened heart.

Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, lust, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is the service of idols. For which things the wrath of God cometh upon the children of unbelief, in which you also walked some time, when you lived in them. But now put you also all away: anger, indignation, malice, blasphemy, filthy speech out of your mouth. (Col. 3:5-8)