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General Catholic Discussion / Re: Don't Feed The Troll
« Last post by Philip G. on Today at 11:19:03 PM »
I hope I did some good, and am not held to task for feeding the troll. I didn't know. It is not something I expected on a Catholic forum.

The diversity of views tolerated on Catholic forums used to be about trousers and skirts on females, rather than whether one believes that previously undisputed Marian devotions are demonic or not or that the works of St. Louis de Montfort are serpentine or not.

Is this hypercritical attacks on Marian devotion aspect new? I do not recall it in the past, and that would be something for sure that I would remember. I firmly remember it being only the domain of Protestants.

Is not your very name an attempt to troll the forum?  Who in their right mind would want to fellowship with a "moderate extremist" whose name is "insane" and posts an introduction filled with nonsense? 

I thought it was bad enough when this forum attracted Melkor a few months ago.  Jayne will be able to retire early at this rate. 

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Catholic Liturgical Life / Re: Evening Mass on Holy Days of Obligation?
« Last post by Daniel on Today at 10:58:18 PM »
3.) why the Salve Regina ascribes to our Lady what appears to be attributes that are proper only to God.

I think I've got the answer to this.

- She's called our "life" not because she is our life (which would be blasphemous) but because she is the new Eve whose name comes from a root meaning "to live".
- She's called our "hope" not because we hope in her (which would be idolatrous), but because she's the Star of the Sea which is the hope of us sailors.
- She's called "advocate" not in order to usurp the divine title of Advocate (which would be blasphemous) but because she advocates for us.
- She's called "clement" not so that she may "have mercy on us" (which would be idolatrous) but because she's merciful in the same way that other humans are said to be merciful.

I don't like the language, but I guess there's nothing wrong with the Salve Regina after all.


Why? Because of your lack of disposition? Or a priest?

The former.


Well, what I don't understand is:
1.) how I can focus on the mysteries when I'm too busy praying the vocal prayers,
2.) why each vocal prayer is being repeated to the point of torture, and
3.) why the Salve Regina ascribes to our Lady what appears to be attributes that are proper only to God.
1.) I have used cards of the mysteries for a focal image. The image in my head sticks as I pray, keeps me from wandering.
2.) Its that way because the rosary is a stand-in for the 150 psalms. Its a mercy we don't need to remember them all. (Maybe people who know all the psalms by heart don't even need to pray a rosary, because they memorized God's prayerbook.)
3.) I don't know.

I recommend the first practice, and actually encourage the OP to give St. Louis de Montfort's method of praying the Rosary a shot: https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25445.0
I've always had trouble focusing on the mysteries and have time and time again succumbed to rushing through it for the sake of fulfilling a daily obligation. I've found St. Louis' method very helpful (and fruitful) in enhancing my focus during a Rosary.

Thank you.
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You probably weren't paying attention.  I have never seen a Latin program that did not explain what the endings are for.

Probably. It was a college class, and we used Wheelock's Latin, so I'm sure it was covered somewhere in the textbook. Whether or not the teacher explained it sufficiently, I cannot recall. (It was too long ago.)

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The case endings tell the function of the word in the sentence.  It is how we can tell what is the subject, object, etc.  Latin is almost impossible to understand without knowing those endings.  If one makes an initial effort to memorize this thoroughly, it all becomes much easier.  It is a good foundation to learning Latin. 

True, but even if you memorize the paradigm tables it still doesn't do much good unless you know what each case is actually used for. Knowing that nautam is accusative is one thing, but knowing that nautam is used as a direct object is something else entirely. The case names aren't very straightforward (at least not to English speakers), and so it leads to a lot of unnecessary frustration and wasted time. Somebody really should fix it. Same thing with labels such as "first declension", "second declension", etc. The declension names should be descriptive, not just arbitrarily numbered.

My point was mostly that what I've found (at least in the classes I've taken, as an adult) is that I've been bombarded with tables and junk, and the bulk of time is spent on pointless tasks such as declining nouns and conjugating verbs, rather than actually reading a text or translating Latin to English or English to Latin. It remains on the level of the abstract, and never really manages to find its way down into what you actually need it for.

In my opinion Latin classes should be primarily inductive, and the grammar should be supplemental. (Not just Latin, but languages in general. Because this is how the learning process works. First you become familiar with the language by hearing it and speaking it... and only once you're familiar with it do you begin to take a step back and analyze it.)

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I teach my students the basic prayers in Latin and mention vocative, imperative and subjunctive when we encounter them.  But the students are not responsible for memorizing the grammar at that point.  They just memorize the prayers.

Just wondering... do students ever bring it up? (I can definitely imagine myself as a kid raising my hand and asking, "Why does this say Domine rather than Dominus? I don't even see Domine anywhere on the declension table!")
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General Catholic Discussion / Spelling it out
« Last post by Insanis on Today at 10:19:25 PM »
To put it in very easy to understand terms: don't be the sort of person who goes into a crowded elevator and makes a big stink and then defends himself say "where does it say I cannot do that?".

Regardless of moderator activity, your posts are really bizarre and contrary to traditional Catholic sensibilities, if not doctrine.


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General Catholic Discussion / Re: My recent ban.
« Last post by Insanis on Today at 10:15:59 PM »
You can make up your own rules, but I am not obliged to follow them.  For example, what is the "core purpose of the forum"?

What are you talking about? You asked:

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But, I am eager to hear any one else attempt to explain how I am guilty of such a charge.  Are there any takers?

I gave you my view and my opinion on the reasons and how I perceived it and how I would have personally perceived it had I been a moderator.

You asked for it.

I am not saying you have to follow my rules. I am explaining the basic netiquette that rules all forums: don't be a troll.

It applies to all forums and it is even in the rules of this forum. It wasn't invoked in your case, but blasphemy and canonization aside, your activity is simply trolling on this matter.

As for the "core purpose of the forum", it is in the nature of the name: forum. It is a place for gathering and discussion. It is a civil structure, and doing things that disrupt its purpose are...disrupting its purpose.

And again, I quoted the rules:

Quote from: The Rules
Suscipe Domine is a traditional Catholic forum committed to preserving and defending traditional Catholicism.  Our common Catholic faith, as taught and professed throughout history, binds us at this forum.  Any Catholic is welcome here as long as they observe the rules and guidelines. Non-Catholics are also permitted to register, read, and post as long as they, too, observe the rules and guidelines.


I am not making rules or able to enforce any rules. I am responding to your demand for opinions on why action was taken on that thread concerning your posts on it. I gave my opinion. Do what you will.

Or, if you want my advise, I already gave it and I would recommend you take it because I think it is good. But again, I have no way of enforcing it or any authority. It is simply feedback that you requested. Take it or leave it.
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Fatima is the way in which so-called Conservatives embrace the idea of the errors of Russia while simultaneously thinking those same people, victims and promoters of such errors, are also the means of Salvation. 

New Evidence Shows Russia Played a Role in Plane Crash That Killed Polandís Top Brass
What does that mean? It isn't Our Lady's fault Russia is belligerent.
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General News and Discussion / Re: what are your daily supplements?
« Last post by Insanis on Today at 09:34:40 PM »
D2 and B12.

I like letters and even numbers.

(But seriously, I avoid the sun and don't eat enough bacteria in my diet, so I supplement.)

I also take a kelp thing for iodine, as dietary intake of that is highly variable and I don't use salt (not out of principle...I am not in the habit of using it).

I might take other things for times where I think it might be useful, such as when my broken bone was healing, I added a C tablet (rosehips) as I heard that can might prevent some complications and help healing (I had surgery to reduce the fracture and fixate it). I stopped when I ran out.
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A daily multivitamin and my prescription med. I used to do caffeine, but, in the past few years it's contributed to my panic attacks so I cut it out entirely.
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Well, what I don't understand is:
1.) how I can focus on the mysteries when I'm too busy praying the vocal prayers,
2.) why each vocal prayer is being repeated to the point of torture, and
3.) why the Salve Regina ascribes to our Lady what appears to be attributes that are proper only to God.
1.) I have used cards of the mysteries for a focal image. The image in my head sticks as I pray, keeps me from wandering.
2.) Its that way because the rosary is a stand-in for the 150 psalms. Its a mercy we don't need to remember them all. (Maybe people who know all the psalms by heart don't even need to pray a rosary, because they memorized God's prayerbook.)
3.) I don't know.

I recommend the first practice, and actually encourage the OP to give St. Louis de Montfort's method of praying the Rosary a shot: https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25445.0
I've always had trouble focusing on the mysteries and have time and time again succumbed to rushing through it for the sake of fulfilling a daily obligation. I've found St. Louis' method very helpful (and fruitful) in enhancing my focus during a Rosary.
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General News and Discussion / Re: what are your daily supplements?
« Last post by Tennessean on Today at 08:58:58 PM »
I took ephedra until the FDA banned it.
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