Immigration from Latin America is good

Started by CatholicStudyAttempt, April 01, 2023, 08:11:51 PM

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CatholicStudyAttempt

 Latin America is WAY more catholic than north America. As such, immigration from Latin America will help increase Catholicism in the United States.

CatholicStudyAttempt

 It IS the GREAT replacement- IE, great it's happening! But, better than replacement I think we can have good inter-marriage and evangelization. Also, more empathy for Latin America in the USA instead of supporting coups.

CatholicStudyAttempt

 The browning of american. IE, wearing scapulars.

AlNg

Quote from: CatholicStudyAttempt on April 01, 2023, 08:11:51 PMLatin America is WAY more catholic than north America. As such, immigration from Latin America will help increase Catholicism in the United States.
A lot of businesses like it because they now have access to cheap labor.

CatholicStudyAttempt

Quote from: AlNg on April 01, 2023, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: CatholicStudyAttempt on April 01, 2023, 08:11:51 PMLatin America is WAY more catholic than north America. As such, immigration from Latin America will help increase Catholicism in the United States.
A lot of businesses like it because they now have access to cheap labor.
True. If we made the people citizens then they'd have more protection. The average American benefits from such labor as consumers. They benefit even more if it increases the demographics of catholics. Also, they benefit by forming more ties with south america, uniting the continents more.

Tennessean

I love having nowhere to go. I love it. Being a stranger everywhere I go is so rewarding. "FU, imperial dog." lololol So glad we can all squeeze into this country.

CatholicStudyAttempt

Quote from: Tennessean on April 01, 2023, 11:48:53 PMI love having nowhere to go. I love it. Being a stranger everywhere I go is so rewarding. "FU, imperial dog." lololol So glad we can all squeeze into this country.

  Latinos are really mainly in the southwest. I've never have a Latino call me anything rude at all. Never. I live in a 50/50 Latino/ white city, and I've been in heavy population areas of Latinos. Other people might have other experiences, but mine have been good or neutral. I'm a white person myself.
 Right now is close to 1/5th (which was the largest black population percent in 1790s), and estimates are of 1/4th in 2050, but who knows. Whatever the case, it will mean more Catholicism and better continental ties.

CatholicStudyAttempt

 Latin America like the Philippines are the fruit of the reconquista, and a global bulwark against Islam- and for the evangelizing and salvation of muslims. These people along with Africans may very well be responsible for a reverse missionary movement of evangelization to the west from the christian global south.
 White nationalism is doomed like Arab nationalism was doomed. Mere racial similarity doesn't guarantee loyalty. It doesn't guarantee good policy. A white nationalist union in the cold war would've been capitalist and communist in the different regions. Both ideologies are incompatible, and thus it's shown that white people aren't guaranteed to have good policy.
 Democrat policy is doomed because nature will re-assert itself against gender ideology, affirmative action, etc. Republican policy is doomed because business if unregulated fails, and economics dictate immigration even as it's nominally illegal.
  Catholicism on the other hand means larger families, fewer diseases, a equitable economic policy neither of libertarian nor Socialist extremes, greater architectural beauty, etc etc.

 

Tennessean

Quote from: CatholicStudyAttempt on April 02, 2023, 12:04:02 AM
Quote from: Tennessean on April 01, 2023, 11:48:53 PMI love having nowhere to go. I love it. Being a stranger everywhere I go is so rewarding. "FU, imperial dog." lololol So glad we can all squeeze into this country.

  Latinos are really mainly in the southwest. I've never have a Latino call me anything rude at all. Never. I live in a 50/50 Latino/ white city, and I've been in heavy population areas of Latinos. Other people might have other experiences, but mine have been good or neutral. I'm a white person myself.
 Right now is close to 1/5th (which was the largest black population percent in 1790s), and estimates are of 1/4th in 2050, but who knows. Whatever the case, it will mean more Catholicism and better continental ties.
So you don't want immigration to bring Catholicism to the rest of us?

CatholicStudyAttempt

Quote from: Tennessean on April 02, 2023, 02:18:02 AM
Quote from: CatholicStudyAttempt on April 02, 2023, 12:04:02 AM
Quote from: Tennessean on April 01, 2023, 11:48:53 PMI love having nowhere to go. I love it. Being a stranger everywhere I go is so rewarding. "FU, imperial dog." lololol So glad we can all squeeze into this country.

  Latinos are really mainly in the southwest. I've never have a Latino call me anything rude at all. Never. I live in a 50/50 Latino/ white city, and I've been in heavy population areas of Latinos. Other people might have other experiences, but mine have been good or neutral. I'm a white person myself.
 Right now is close to 1/5th (which was the largest black population percent in 1790s), and estimates are of 1/4th in 2050, but who knows. Whatever the case, it will mean more Catholicism and better continental ties.
So you don't want immigration to bring Catholicism to the rest of us?
If you had it there like I have it here you'd be fine.

Tennessean

So the children of the immigrants keep the faith? Or do we need a continuous cycle of immigrants?

CatholicStudyAttempt

Quote from: Tennessean on April 02, 2023, 02:23:16 AMSo the children of the immigrants keep the faith? Or do we need a continuous cycle of immigrants?
Let's think of it the opposite way- is it better to prevent immigrants if it means faster decline?
 You have a continuous cycle of immigrants as is, and it will help prevent the slide to atheism.
  The percent of catholic USA is about 25%, about 70% in Latin America. Immigration is a huge boon.

Tennessean

I think its best if we stay where we're put.

Miriam_M

There's a lot of fantasy on this thread.  I live in an area of heavy Latino immigration; in fact, they're often the majority presence.  They are mostly non-practicing Catholics.  Those who do believe practice an evangelical Protestantism which winks at cohabitation, birth control, and a lot else.  A significant portion of those immigrants are gang members responsible for most of the crime in the region, along with a hardened group of black criminals who sometimes can be found in league with them, sometimes in "competition" with them.

The USCCB has a similar romantic perception of Latinos (they're all Saints, supposedly way holier than any white European you've ever met, including the body of traditional Catholic Saints). 

They are here for various reasons, but overwhelmingly material/economic.  That doesn't make them bad, but it also doesn't make them holy. 

Tennessean

Its been my experience that immigrants will always americanize. This country always wins. There are no saints, here.