What other historical events do you not believe took place as recorded/taught?

Started by Bernadette, May 26, 2023, 01:42:58 PM

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Bernadette

I know the holocaust is often disbelieved, but I'm curious as to other historical events. Are there any that are commonly believed to have occurred differently than the official narrative?
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diaduit

I don't believe WWI was anything other than a plot by elitist to remove the very excellent Catholic Austrio Hungarian empire and Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand was the victim of a false flag.  It also set up more republics and democracies, removed the old aristocratic ruling class which was faulty but fake democracy is no 2 and communism no1, the worst systems that took over.

Maximilian

In my view, nearly all of them. In recent years, to name a few:

1. JFK
2. RFK
3. Moon landing
4. 9/11
5. Covid

Going further back, the Greeks actually lost the Trojan War, but Homer changed the story to appease his audience.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Dio_Chrysostom/Discourses/11*.html

Dio Chrysostom

"I am almost certain that while all men are hard to teach, they are easy to deceive. They learn with difficulty — if they do learn anything — from the few that know, but they are deceived only too readily by the many who do not know, and not only by others but by themselves as well. For the truth is bitter and unpleasant to the unthinking, while falsehood is sweet and pleasant. They are, I fancy, like men with sore eyes — they find the light painful, while the darkness, which permits them to see nothing, is restful and agreeable. Else how would falsehood often prove mightier than the truth, if it did not win its victories through pleasure?

But though, as I have said, it is hard for men to learn, it is immensely more difficult for them to unlearn and learn over again, especially when they have been listening to falsehood for a long time, and not only they themselves, but their fathers, their grandfathers, and, generally speaking, all former generations have been deceived. For it is no easy matter to disabuse these of their opinion, no matter how clearly you show it to be wrong.

Heinrich

Every USA war/engagment. England did some crap ass things to the colonists, but now I question the integrity of that episode in history.
Schaff Recht mir Gott und führe meine Sache gegen ein unheiliges Volk . . .   .                          
Lex Orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.
"Die Welt sucht nach Ehre, Ansehen, Reichtum, Vergnügen; die Heiligen aber suchen Demütigung, Verachtung, Armut, Abtötung und Buße." --Ausschnitt von der Geschichte des Lebens St. Bennos.

TradGranny

#5
Assasination of President Lincoln.
Oklahoma City Bombing
Waco
Ruby Ridge
Bundy standoff
Operation Northwoods
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Kent

I mean, Vatican II is the obvious answer, right?

Throw in the 1958 conclave, too.
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that will put me in trust, to love him that is honest, to
converse with him that is wise and says little, to fear
judgment, to fight when I cannot choose, and to eat no fish.

GMC


Kaesekopf

I never would have guessed Bernadette was the fed assigned to this forum.  :lol:
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Jmartyr

Quote from: Heinrich on May 26, 2023, 06:25:19 PMEvery USA war/engagment. England did some crap ass things to the colonists, but now I question the integrity of that episode in history.
You should read "Liberty, The God That Failed " by Christopher Ferrara. Good ol' King George was not as bad as history portrays him. Goes deep into the Civil War and it's characters as well.
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drummerboy

Quote from: Jmartyr on May 27, 2023, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: Heinrich on May 26, 2023, 06:25:19 PMEvery USA war/engagment. England did some crap ass things to the colonists, but now I question the integrity of that episode in history.
You should read "Liberty, The God That Failed " by Christopher Ferrara. Good ol' King George was not as bad as history portrays him. Goes deep into the Civil War and it's characters as well.

I'll second that. 

And how dare the British king ask the colonists to pay a share of the war that they started against France, only to have Britain come and finish it and save the colonists' collective a*# because the French were handing it to them!
- I'll get with the times when the times are worth getting with

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Heinrich

Schaff Recht mir Gott und führe meine Sache gegen ein unheiliges Volk . . .   .                          
Lex Orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi.
"Die Welt sucht nach Ehre, Ansehen, Reichtum, Vergnügen; die Heiligen aber suchen Demütigung, Verachtung, Armut, Abtötung und Buße." --Ausschnitt von der Geschichte des Lebens St. Bennos.

Frank

Quote from: Heinrich on May 27, 2023, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: GMC on May 27, 2023, 03:25:13 AMAssasination of Carrero Blanco.

Who dat?
Admiral-General Luis Carrero Blanco was a Spanish Navy officer and politician. A long-time confidant and right-hand man of dictator Francisco Franco, Carrero served as Spain's Premier and in various other high ranking offices of the Francoist dictatorship until his assassination in a car bombing in December 1973.
in principio erat Verbum et Verbum erat apud Deum et Deus erat Verbum
hoc erat in principio apud Deum
omnia per ipsum facta sunt et sine ipso factum est nihil quod factum est

james03

OKC bombing was already taken.  That was a really bad cover up.

1.  Syrian Army using chemical weapons.
2.  "Water main leak" in Georgia causing the Republican poll watchers to be sent home.
3.  Governor Whitmer kidnap plot.
4.  Pope Benedict resigning without duress. 
5.  J6 "insurrection".
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

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Bernadette

Quote from: james03 on May 27, 2023, 01:03:24 PMJ6 "insurrection".

Well, something certainty happened that day. I'd say at the very least, a riot.
My Lord and my God.