What other historical events do you not believe took place as recorded/taught?

Started by Hannelore, May 26, 2023, 01:42:58 PM

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TradGranny

Quote from: Bernadette on May 27, 2023, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: james03 on May 27, 2023, 01:03:24 PMJ6 "insurrection".

Well, something certainty happened that day. I'd say at the very least, a riot.

Fed! Fed! Fed! So said one smart (actual) Trump supporter about Ray Eps one day before the false flag event.

Anyone who doesn't know who Ray Eps is, probably doesn't even know that the Capitol Police opened the barricades and let the group in. So polite were they that they stayed within the velvet ropes and posed for photos with Capitol Police. Some went in and prayed.
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Heinrich

Quote from: Frank on May 27, 2023, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: Heinrich on May 27, 2023, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: GMC on May 27, 2023, 03:25:13 AMAssasination of Carrero Blanco.

Who dat?
Admiral-General Luis Carrero Blanco was a Spanish Navy officer and politician. A long-time confidant and right-hand man of dictator Francisco Franco, Carrero served as Spain's Premier and in various other high ranking offices of the Francoist dictatorship until his assassination in a car bombing in December 1973.

I know story without the name. Perpetrators were executed with due prejudice. Thanks.
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drummerboy

Quote from: james03 on May 27, 2023, 01:03:24 PMOKC bombing was already taken.  That was a really bad cover up.

1.  Syrian Army using chemical weapons.
2.  "Water main leak" in Georgia causing the Republican poll watchers to be sent home.
3.  Governor Whitmer kidnap plot.
4.  Pope Benedict resigning without duress. 
5.  J6 "insurrection".

1. Was a perfect false flag set-up.  First the US media starts reporting that the US will retaliate if Assad uses chemical weapons, so the public is getting set up for manipulation.  And as if Assad would use them knowing to expect such retaliation.  Then, on cue, chemical weapons are used and Trump falls for it and missles are launched.  Big mistake on his part.
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"All my hope I place in you, O Mother of God; keep me under your protection."

Miriam_M

Quote from: james03 on May 27, 2023, 01:03:24 PMOKC bombing was already taken.  That was a really bad cover up.

1.  Syrian Army using chemical weapons.
2.  "Water main leak" in Georgia causing the Republican poll watchers to be sent home.
3.  Governor Whitmer kidnap plot.
4.  Pope Benedict resigning without duress. 
5.  J6 "insurrection".

I'm kind of ignorant about Syria, so I have to remain neutral on #1, but the rest of your list is the only list I can fully agree with so far on this thread.

james03

QuoteThen, on cue, chemical weapons are used and Trump falls for it and missles are launched.  Big mistake on his part.

Trump knew it was a trap for him.  So 4 hours before the strike he notifies the Russians the coordinates of the strike.  The Russians told the Syrians, and everyone pulled out of the area.  Trump did this ploy twice.  And all the missiles hit at the coordinates and nothing else.

Considering this was during Russiagate, I think he did a good job.  He was in a jam with the (((media))) showing staged pictures of "gassed" children 24-7.
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drummerboy

"My hope is the Father, my refuge is the Son, my protection is the Holy Spirit.  Holy Trinity, glory to You." 
"All my hope I place in you, O Mother of God; keep me under your protection."

james03

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-air-strikes-us-russia-warn-ahead-airbase-donald-trump-putin-missile-attack-tomohawk-cruise-assad-regime-a7671736.html

QuoteMembers of the Russian armed forces at a Syrian government airbase bombed by the US were given advance warning of the impending military action, the Pentagon has confirmed.

Kind of interesting, this was one of the first search results returned by neeva.com.  Brave search only reports Trump "taunting" the Russians.  So there's Big Tech censorship on this story.

I'm going to miss neeva.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

Joseph_3

Something I have learned is that if I learned it in school, almost the opposite is true. Between the blatant propaganda and ignorant teachers there is very little factual information being passed to the students.

AlfredtheGreat

The Bolshevik revolution of 1917. Pretty sure it was Western elites bankrolling the "usual suspects" to overthrow a Christian monarch and initiate anti-Christian genocide.
These people are crazy

Maximilian

Quote from: AlfredtheGreat on May 30, 2023, 07:19:02 PMThe Bolshevik revolution of 1917.

My history professor used to say, "The 'Glorious October Revolution' was not glorious, not a revolution, and not even in October." Not glorious, because it was really just a handful of rabble in the streets, not a revolution because it was a counter-revolution against the Socialist regime of Kerensky that was running the country, and not even in October because of the Orthodox calendar."

drummerboy

Quote from: AlfredtheGreat on May 30, 2023, 07:19:02 PMThe Bolshevik revolution of 1917. Pretty sure it was Western elites bankrolling the "usual suspects" to overthrow a Christian monarch and initiate anti-Christian genocide.

Yet it was the Germans who put Lenin I the railroad car and sent him to Russia to take Russia out of the war.  And then 24 years the Germans have to invade USSR to clean up their mistake.  Besides fighting, as other Western powers did, the Reds in the Baltic states (Freikorps militia).
  My theory is jews in the USA and UK convinced those governments to ally with the USSR against Hitler, claiming he was the greater threat (what about Red expansion in the Baltic and attempted invasion of Poland?)  Most folks in the west HATED the USSR and the reds, but suddenly they're our friends!?  This also meant throwing Finland under the bus: during the Winter War everybody was sympathetic to the Finnish cause, but post Barbarrosa they were forgotten, because now the aggressive USSR was a "victim."
"My hope is the Father, my refuge is the Son, my protection is the Holy Spirit.  Holy Trinity, glory to You." 
"All my hope I place in you, O Mother of God; keep me under your protection."

james03

#26
The true story of Rasputin is also interesting.  A lot of the wilder stories about him were BS.  He was assassinated by the British because of his influence on the Czar's wife, and he was a strong advocate of getting Russia out of WW1.  The Brits admitted not too long ago that they are the ones who killed him.

QuoteAccording to Andrew Cook's To kill Rasputin the British agent involved in the murder, possibly even firing the fatal shot, was Oswald Rayner, a close friend of Yusupov from his time at Oxford University.
"But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God (Jn 3:18)."

"All sorrow leads to the foot of the Cross.  Weep for your sins."

"Although He should kill me, I will trust in Him"

drummerboy

Typical British behavior, manipulating the fate of other countries to serve your ends.
"My hope is the Father, my refuge is the Son, my protection is the Holy Spirit.  Holy Trinity, glory to You." 
"All my hope I place in you, O Mother of God; keep me under your protection."

TradGranny

Quote from: Bernadette on May 27, 2023, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: james03 on May 27, 2023, 01:03:24 PMJ6 "insurrection".

Well, something certainty happened that day. I'd say at the very least, a riot.

If you call that a riot, what do you call the summer of 2020 massive riots which killed and maimed police, burnt federal and other buildings and destroyed hundreds of small businesses.

Please tell me you don't call if "mostly peacful" as it was by the controlled media.

If you watch the longer videos of J6, you will see:
people being escorted into the Capitol by Capitol Police,
people staying within the velvet ropes,
people posing for photos with the Capitol Police,
the guy with horns and animal fur praying and thanking God for allowing them into the Capitol,
the guy with horns and animal fur being escorted into the Senate by the Capitol Police,
Ray Epps being outed as a "Fed! Fed! Fed!" as he whispers to and directs numerous others (operatives?) Epps was on the "Most Wanted" list and then mysteriously disappeared.

Do you know that only one person was killed that day? She was an unarmed veteran who was not a threat shot in cold blood by a Capitol Policeman who had previously faced charges for leaving a loaded gun in the Men's room.
To have courage for whatever comes in life - everything lies in that.
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LausTibiChriste

Quote from: james03 on May 31, 2023, 10:30:49 AMThe true story of Rasputin is also interesting.  A lot of the wilder stories about him were BS.  He was assassinated by the British because of his influence on the Czar's wife, and he was a strong advocate of getting Russia out of WW1.  The Brits admitted not too long ago that they are the ones who killed him.

QuoteAccording to Andrew Cook's To kill Rasputin the British agent involved in the murder, possibly even firing the fatal shot, was Oswald Rayner, a close friend of Yusupov from his time at Oxford University.

My MIL is quite fond of Rasputin. A few documentaries have come out in Russia that refute a lot that is claimed about him.
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