Quantum Physics Experiment Shows Heisenberg Was Right about Uncertainty

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Quantum physics experiment shows Heisenberg was right about uncertainty, in a certain sense

By Howard Wiseman, Director of the Centre for Quantum Dynamics, Griffith University.

In The Conversation.



Quantum particles are not really just particles... they are also waves.

The word uncertainty is used a lot in quantum mechanics. One school of thought is that this means there's something out there in the world that we are uncertain about. But most physicists believe nature itself is uncertain. Intrinsic uncertainty was central to the way German physicist Werner Heisenberg, one of the originators of modern quantum mechanics, presented the theory. He put forward the Uncertainty Principle that showed we can never know all the properties of a particle at the same time. For example, measuring the particle's position would allow us to know its position. But this measurement would necessarily disturb its velocity, by an amount inversely proportional to the accuracy of the position measurement.

Was Heisenberg wrong?

Heisenberg used the Uncertainty Principle to explain how measurement would destroy that classic feature of quantum mechanics, the two-slit interference pattern (more on this below). But back in the 1990s, some eminent quantum physicists claimed to have proved it is possible to determine which of the two slits a particle goes through, without significantly disturbing its velocity. Does that mean Heisenberg's explanation must be wrong? In work just published in Science Advances, my experimental colleagues and I have shown that it would be unwise to jump to that conclusion. We show a velocity disturbance — of the size expected from the Uncertainty Principle — always exists, in a certain sense. But before getting into the details we need to explain briefly about the two-slit experiment.

The two-slit experiment

In this type of experiment there is a barrier with two holes or slits. We also have a quantum particle with a position uncertainty large enough to cover both slits if it is fired at the barrier. Since we can't know which slit the particle goes through, it acts as if it goes through both slits. The signature of this is the so-called "interference pattern": ripples in the distribution of where the particle is likely to be found at a screen in the far field beyond the slits, meaning a long way (often several metres) past the slits.



Particles going through two slits at once form an interference pattern on a screen in the far field. There are bands (dark) where they are more likely to show up separated by bands (light) where they are less likely to show up.

But what if we put a measuring device near the barrier to find out which slit the particle goes through? Will we still see the interference pattern? We know the answer is no, and Heisenberg's explanation was that if the position measurement is accurate enough to tell which slit the particle goes through, it will give a random disturbance to its velocity just large enough to affect where it ends up in the far field, and thus wash out the ripples of interference. What the eminent quantum physicists realised is that finding out which slit the particle goes through doesn't require a position measurement as such. Any measurement that gives different results depending on which slit the particle goes through will do. And they came up with a device whose effect on the particle is not that of a random velocity kick as it goes through. Hence, they argued, it is not Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle that explains the loss of interference, but some other mechanism.

As Heisenberg predicted

We don't have to get into what they claimed was the mechanism for destroying interference, because our experiment has shown there is an effect on the velocity of the particle, of just the size Heisenberg predicted. We saw what others have missed because this velocity disturbance doesn't happen as the particle goes through the measurement device. Rather it is delayed until the particle is well past the slits, on the way towards the far field. How is this possible? Well, because quantum particles are not really just particles. They are also waves. In fact, the theory behind our experiment was one in which both wave and particle nature are manifest — the wave guides the motion of the particle according to the interpretation introduced by theoretical physicist David Bohm, a generation after Heisenberg.

Let's experiment

In our latest experiment, scientists in China followed a technique suggested by me in 2007 to reconstruct the hypothesised motion of the quantum particles, from many different possible starting points across both slits, and for both results of the measurement. They compared the velocities over time when there was no measurement device present to those when there was, and so determined the change in the velocities as a result of the measurement. The experiment showed that the effect of the measurement on the velocity of the particles continued long after the particles had cleared the measurement device itself, as far as 5 metres away from it. By that point, in the far field, the cumulative change in velocity was just large enough, on average, to wash out the ripples in the interference pattern. So, in the end, Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle emerges triumphant. The take-home message? Don't make far-reaching claims about what principle can or cannot explain a phenomenon until you have considered all theoretical formulations of the principle. Yes, that's a bit of an abstract message, but it's advice that could apply in fields far from physics.
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Maximilian

This is big news, huge news, but the story is buried under a misleading headline.

Usually, every science-related headline is required to contain some form of the phrase "proves Einstein right." The only exception is when it says instead "Proves Heisenberg right."

But the reality in the body of the text says just the opposite:

"In fact, the theory behind our experiment was one in which both wave and particle nature are manifest — the wave guides the motion of the particle according to the interpretation introduced by theoretical physicist David Bohm, a generation after Heisenberg."

There is a lot of hand-waving in the article about how Heisenberg is still right anyway, just like there is always a lot of hand-waving about how Einstein is still right anyway whenever there is experimental data that doesn't match the Theory of Relativity, but in fact David Bohm was not merely "a generation after Heisenberg," he was a heretic with a radically different theory of quantum mechanics. Bohm's version is called the "Pilot Wave" theory.

If this experiment set out to prove Bohm's version of quantum mechanics, and it succeeded, then that is very significant news indeed.

David Bohm, Quantum Mechanics and Enlightenment
The visionary physicist, whose ideas remain influential, sought spiritual as well as scientific illumination

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/david-bohm-quantum-mechanics-and-enlightenment/

Bohm began questioning the Copenhagen interpretation in the late 1940s while writing a book on quantum mechanics. According to the Copenhagen interpretation, a quantum entity such as an electron has no definite existence apart from our observation of it. We cannot say with certainty whether it is either a wave or a particle. The interpretation also rejects the possibility that the seemingly probabilistic behavior of quantum systems stems from underlying, deterministic mechanisms.

Bohm found this view unacceptable. "The whole idea of science so far has been to say that underlying the phenomenon is some reality which explains things," he explained. "It was not that Bohr denied reality, but he said quantum mechanics implied there was nothing more that could be said about it." Such a view reduced quantum mechanics to "a system of formulas that we use to make predictions or to control things technologically. I said that's not enough. I don't think I would be very interested in science if that were all there was."

In 1952 Bohm proposed that particles are indeed particles--and at all times, not just when they are observed in a certain way. Their behavior is determined by a force that Bohm called the "pilot wave." Any effort to observe a particle alters its behavior by disturbing the pilot wave. Bohm thus gave the uncertainty principle a purely physical rather than metaphysical meaning. Niels Bohr had interpreted the uncertainty principle as meaning "not that there is uncertainty, but that there is an inherent ambiguity" in a quantum system, Bohm explained.

Xavier

It's quite interesting. I remember Wave-Particle Dual Nature and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle well. I didn't know there were studies from the 90s that had questioned it till reading the article. "But back in the 1990s, some eminent quantum physicists claimed to have proved it is possible to determine which of the two slits a particle goes through, without significantly disturbing its velocity." It would be interesting to read that study. The idea is that both the position and the velocity of a quantum particle cannot be determined at the same time. Attempts to determine one more precisely will lead to a less certain less knowledge of the other. That's the theory. So it would be empirically confirmed if experiments bore it out and empirically falsified if it was possible to measure both together.

As for, "We also have a quantum particle with a position uncertainty large enough to cover both slits if it is fired at the barrier. Since we can't know which slit the particle goes through, it acts as if it goes through both slits. The signature of this is the so-called "interference pattern": ripples in the distribution of where the particle is likely to be found at a screen in the far field beyond the slits, meaning a long way (often several metres) past the slits. But what if we put a measuring device near the barrier to find out which slit the particle goes through? Will we still see the interference pattern?

We know the answer is no, and Heisenberg's explanation was that if the position measurement is accurate enough to tell which slit the particle goes through, it will give a random disturbance to its velocity just large enough to affect where it ends up in the far field, and thus wash out the ripples of interference. What the eminent quantum physicists realized is that finding out which slit the particle goes through doesn't require a position measurement as such. Any measurement that gives different results depending on which slit the particle goes through will do. And they came up with a device whose effect on the particle is not that of a random velocity kick as it goes through". It'll be interesting to see future results before deciding which has empirical confirmation. The later study described by the author may show that trying to measure the velocity of the particle while it is in movement may have some impact on its trajectory. Does it show that we can never be certain about which slit the particle passed through? That's the question.
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