What does the phrase ”The Saints are coming” mean?

Started by TheSaintsAreComing, June 06, 2021, 03:28:38 AM

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TheSaintsAreComing

But my friend, you're the one who has that phrase as your username!

Yeah I know, I got it from the song by the same name from the band Skids. It's an okay song, supposedly inspired by a friend of the songwriter dying while on a military tour in Northern Ireland. But I haven't been able to find out what the phrase actually means, in the song's lyrics or outside

A literally reading would be that the saints are on their way somewhere, which I think wont be the case until Judgement day. Are the saints also present in the Mass celebrated in church?

Not the most important question, but if any native-English speaker have a clue, I'd be delighted to hear
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Vetus Ordo

Quote from: TheSaintsAreComing on June 06, 2021, 03:28:38 AM
Are the saints also present in the Mass celebrated in church?

The entire heavenly court is present at every mass.



QuoteNot the most important question, but if any native-English speaker have a clue, I'd be delighted to hear

You're not a native English speaker? May I ask you where you're from? I see Swedish flags in your avatar.
DISPOSE OUR DAYS IN THY PEACE, AND COMMAND US TO BE DELIVERED FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION, AND TO BE NUMBERED IN THE FLOCK OF THINE ELECT.

dellery

If then thou shalt not watch, I will come to thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know at what hour I will come to thee. But thou hast a few names in Sardis, which have not defiled their garments: and they shall walk with me in white, because they are worthy. He that shall overcome, shall thus be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of the temptation, which shall come upon the whole world to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly: hold fast that which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. He that shall overcome, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; and he shall go out no more; and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God, and my new name.

I counsel thee to buy of me gold fire tried, that thou mayest be made rich; and mayest be clothed in white garments, and that the shame of thy nakedness may not appear; and anoint thy eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. Such as I love, I rebuke and chastise. Be zealous therefore, and do penance. Behold, I stand at the gate, and knock. If any man shall hear my voice, and open to me the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that shall overcome, I will give to sit with me in my throne: as I also have overcome, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
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TheSaintsAreComing

Hi Vetus,

Yeah I remember hearing/reading that somewhere. So I suppose you can say "the saints are coming" once the mass starts

And yes, I'm Swedish and that's indeed two Swedish flags in my avatar
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Vetus Ordo

Quote from: TheSaintsAreComing on June 06, 2021, 10:22:57 AM
And yes, I'm Swedish and that's indeed two Swedish flags in my avatar

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DISPOSE OUR DAYS IN THY PEACE, AND COMMAND US TO BE DELIVERED FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION, AND TO BE NUMBERED IN THE FLOCK OF THINE ELECT.

TheSaintsAreComing

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Quote from: TheSaintsAreComing on June 06, 2021, 10:40:16 AMI'm Swedish and that's indeed two Swedish flags in my avatar

Hej, friend!  I admire much in Scandinavian culture and aesthetics, and envy your weather, and from an observer's occasional vantage, I find the right wing in your country more dignified and serious than the one in my own (a certain hellhole in North America).

I do not know your age, nor your interest in cinema, but would you perhaps be able to comment on how revered Ingmar Bergman is by Swedes in general these days?  It is frequently said that he was more admired abroad than in his patria.  But that was among his contemporary critics.  I would think that in the years since, he would have become legendary by now.  Among Swedes in general.  His best films are certainly some of your country's finest artistic exports.



dellery

Quote from: Pon de Replay on June 06, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
I find the right wing in your country more dignified and serious than the one in my own (a certain hellhole in North America).

They shamed themselves into existence with a massive, insulting, troll-campaign.
Blessed are those who plant trees under whose shade they will never sit.

The closer you get to life the better death will be; the closer you get to death the better life will be.

Nous Defions
St. Phillip Neri, pray for us.

Mono no aware

Quote from: dellery on June 06, 2021, 01:38:49 PM
Quote from: Pon de Replay on June 06, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
I find the right wing in your country more dignified and serious than the one in my own (a certain hellhole in North America).

They shamed themselves into existence with a massive, insulting, troll-campaign.

Forgive me, dellery, but your views are somewhat idiosyncratic, so it's difficult to know who you're referring to here.  Are you speaking of the Swedish right or that of the U.S.?  Normally I would assume the latter, but with you I can never tell.

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dellery

Quote from: Pon de Replay on June 06, 2021, 06:23:20 PM

Forgive me, dellery, but your views are somewhat idiosyncratic, so it's difficult to know who you're referring to here.  Are you speaking of the Swedish right or that of the U.S.?  Normally I would assume the latter, but with you I can never tell.

It's my fault for writing sloppily.
The Swedish Right. It was very interesting and well played. Push the country down an especially embarrassing Leftward turn while unleashing a troll army online to run an intense internet propaganda campaign shaming themselves for it, which in my estimation is what created the contemporary Swedish Right.

Stormfront runs the same sort of propaganda in the form of spamming interracial/cuck porn to racially and sexually shame American Whites into a collective racial identity.
Blessed are those who plant trees under whose shade they will never sit.

The closer you get to life the better death will be; the closer you get to death the better life will be.

Nous Defions
St. Phillip Neri, pray for us.

TheSaintsAreComing

Quote from: Pon de Replay on June 06, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
Quote from: TheSaintsAreComing on June 06, 2021, 10:40:16 AMI'm Swedish and that's indeed two Swedish flags in my avatar

Hej, friend!  I admire much in Scandinavian culture and aesthetics, and envy your weather, and from an observer's occasional vantage, I find the right wing in your country more dignified and serious than the one in my own (a certain hellhole in North America).

I do not know your age, nor your interest in cinema, but would you perhaps be able to comment on how revered Ingmar Bergman is by Swedes in general these days?  It is frequently said that he was more admired abroad than in his patria.  But that was among his contemporary critics.  I would think that in the years since, he would have become legendary by now.  Among Swedes in general.  His best films are certainly some of your country's finest artistic exports.

Hallå!

I'm not certain about how Bergman is perceived generally.  If I'd have to guess I'd say it's overall positive. It was a long time since I'd watched any of his movies, but I've seen The Seventh Seal several times, and think it's both a film with beautiful cinematography and existentially meaningful story
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Mono no aware

Quote from: dellery on June 06, 2021, 08:51:06 PM
The Swedish Right. It was very interesting and well played. Push the country down an especially embarrassing Leftward turn while unleashing a troll army online to run an intense internet propaganda campaign shaming themselves for it, which in my estimation is what created the contemporary Swedish Right.

Hmm.  That's an interesting take.  However, I am confused: you seem to be suggesting that it was the right which "pushed the country down an especially embarrassing Leftward turn" in the first place, as if the right were pressing its finger on the scale.  As far as I'm aware, Sweden's leftward turns were effected democratically.  The resultant failure of leftward policies caused an ideological backlash, and a growth on the right.  It's in good part due to immigration policies, a pattern that has repeated itself in various other countries.  The "populist" and "nationalist" surges and whatnot.

In terms of Sweden's right relative to our own, I was thinking of the parliamentary gains of the Sweden Democrats.  We don't have a comparable third party—and if the Trump, Gaetz, Greene, &c. flank of the Republican party is supposed to be our analogue there, then all the worse for us.  I was also thinking of Daniel Friberg's success with Arktos Media.

dellery

Exactly. The masters of public opinion are the Right.

It's uncontroversial that trying to force yourself on people repels them. It's like asking a girl out. You don't get in her face and demand a date; you pull her into your orbit by letting attraction build.

If you want to push a something in a certain direction you push from the opposite end. A wind blowing from the East pushes the ship West.
Blessed are those who plant trees under whose shade they will never sit.

The closer you get to life the better death will be; the closer you get to death the better life will be.

Nous Defions
St. Phillip Neri, pray for us.