Quote from: Guapo on January 30, 2025, 05:14:27 AMQuote from: Guapo on April 17, 2024, 09:07:58 AMIncas and the Divine Boy that made the World
¨Viracocha who had made the world taught all goodness and virtue, and then walked away on the water across the Pacific¨ - Inca Legend
¨When God was a boy...¨ - Seris indians of California
The Incas and indians in general, do not mince words. At some point, Our Lord appeared to them. When? Perhaps when Jesus was a boy at age 12 or 13 years old, he was ¨lost for 3 days¨ in the Temple? Now young teens-boys are curious, and especially if you are Logos, the Divine Word, who made the world, wouldnt you be curious to see how things are going? The clue is He walked on the water. Did Christ bi-locate during those 3 days to see how His world was doing?
Ecuador has an Apparition of Christ Child!!
¨The Child Jesus of the Cross on Pichincha Mountain¨
https://www.traditioninaction.org/OLGS/A003olgs%20Pinchincha.htm
https://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/blogs/news/devotion-to-divine-child-of-the-cross-of-pichincha
http://holydevotions.blogspot.com/2015/05/the-christ-child-crucified-on-mount.html
" In the beginning there arose the golden child. He was the one born Lord of all that is. He established the earth and the sky. Who is the god to whom we shall offer sacrifice?¨
https://archive.org/details/atlantisantedilu00donnuoft/page/466/mode/2up
Golden Child? This can only be Christ as a Divine Child ¨lost¨ for 3 days...teaching the Incas.
Interesting that the Incas use the same phrase of ¨walking on water¨ can be translated as walking on the ¨foam of the sea¨ which is exact phrase used for Queen of Sheeba in Crete as Afroditus, she came from under ¨the foam of the sea¨
https://greek.mythologyworldwide.com/aphrodite-and-the-sea-her-connection-to-water-and-emotion/
¨According to legend, she emerged from the foam of the sea¨
The Christ Child may have visited the Mayans as well. On page 584, ¨Tribes and Temples¨ by Blom, Volume II
One of the Mayan dialects listed has the Spanish word for Child, ´Nino, un poco, mas grande´ as ¨Haitcu¨
Drop the H, ¨aitcu¨ has some resemblance to Iesus or Jesus phonetically. (haitcu reminds one of Haiti, the island, which means ¨Ayiti¨ very close to the Mayan, ¨Aitcu¨ translated means ¨land of the high mountains.¨ However, this was probably a Conquistador translation... ascertain it originally meant ¨Divine Child¨ In Luzon, the Filipinos use ´lalaki´ which is ¨boy¨, etc...
https://liberalarts.tulane.edu/sites/default/files/2024-09/Tribes%20and%20Temples%20vol.%20II.pdf
(Spanish version has both volumes in one book)
Quote from: Guapo on January 24, 2025, 06:15:37 AMhttps://tv.apple.com/us/movie/pride-and-prejudice-and-zombies/umc.cmc.rdgzobto4re6ih317i5f08d2
Comic spoof on Jane Austen´s novel with the usual gratituous violence and gore but the ending was shocking.
Some of the Zombies were only sedated by ¨Holy Communion made of pigs brains¨ at Saint Lazarus´s Church, a Protestant one. Thus they inserted pigs brains into the making of communion hosts. It has been rumored that supermarkets use pigs lard in baking of bread, but this is overthetop... nay, it is not pigs brain they are making the hosts with...
Lifesitenews.com some years ago highlighted a mysterious meeting in Vatican City attended by one long Jesuit priest (who some question if he even offers the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass) and several important outsiders, etc... the Catholic media was barred from this closed door meeting:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/oklahoma-senator-under-fire-for-bill-to-ban-use-of-aborted-tissues-in-food/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/proposal-at-vatican-to-change-eucharist-would-create-a-new-religion
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/its-not-just-pepsi-drug-food-cosmetic-companies-use-aborted-baby-cells-says/
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 05, 2025, 06:17:28 PMQuote from: Stubborn on February 05, 2025, 05:03:38 AMThis is:1.No, its based on the teaching of the three Popes that we have posted on this thread.
1) A conclusion based strictly on opinion
2) Is contrary to Canon Law
3) Is a blatant rejection of what the pope told us to do about a heretic pope
Can we at least agree on these three things Michael?
2.The Canon Law issue is one you brought in and is an ancillary issue i.e. One of your usual "rabbit holes" you want me to chase you down, and which I am not going to.
3. Blatant rejection of your last stated opinion "heretics remain members of the Church", which you also contradict two of your very own earlier posts.
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 05, 2025, 06:12:28 PMHere is your earlier post on Pius XII and Mistici Corporis Cristi:Lest Canon Law be a lie, based on Canon Law, PPXII is not kicking members of the Church out of the Church for the sin of heresy - both sentences immediately before and after attest to this. You gotta read it in context.QuoteBut then we have Pope Pius XII who taught in Mystici Corporis essentially that 'the public sin of heresy by its very nature separates the heretic from the Church.' This most certainly is the constant teaching of the Church, unanimous teaching of the Fathers, and unanimous teaching of theologians.Now it cannot be stated any more clearly: 1. Pius XII is teaching that heresy by its very nature separates the heretic from the Church and 2. This is the unanimous teaching of the Fathers and theologians.
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 05, 2025, 06:12:28 PMSorry but I don't know what E.C.A.O. stands for. But again, you must read the whole thing in context, What you are doing is reading one sentence, taking it out of context, then claiming there is no contradiction where there clearly is or would be if your understanding were correct.QuoteBoth PPIV's and PPXII's teachings are indeed true, Catholic teachings. But my guess is that it might appear to you that somewhere in there there is a contradiction between the two teachings. After all, one says popes can be a heretic, one says heretics severs themselves from the Church.So you also confirmed that: "Heretics severs themselves from the Church" so in plain English, a person who "severs themselves from the Church" is no longer a member.
No there is no "contradiction" except in your own erroneous interpretation of E.C.A.O.
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 05, 2025, 06:12:28 PMIf a Pope were to fall into heresy, he "would sever himself from the Church" and therefore can be contradicted. Otherwise to contradict the teaching of the Pope would be (at least) a grave sin.Refer to Canon Law and this is proven false. Refer to Cum ex and this is proven false.
Quote from: Michael Wilson on February 05, 2025, 06:03:20 PMNo Michael, you are not following through. As we are taught and as I said, a Catholic is one who has been baptized and professes the Catholic faith - (now for the follow through) and can repent, go to confession and be absolved in the sacrament of penance should he ever fall into the sins of heresy, schism or apostacy, same as every other Catholic.Quote from: Stubborn on February 05, 2025, 04:55:00 AMI thought I was clear. "if a Catholic becomes a heretic he is still a member of the Church" yes, the censure of excommunication that canon law attaches to the sin of heresy states that he is separated from the unity of the Body, not kicked out of the Church.Then for you, "confession of the Catholic faith", is no longer a condition for being a Catholic?
As you responded earlier on this thread, when askedQuoteCatholics are those who have been baptized and profess the Catholic faith.So did you change your mind?