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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2021, 12:43:12 PM »

Thank you. I know their views are highly specific to them and are not Catholic, but their apparent free reign makes it appear it is accepted.

But, it turns out it was just a moderator who was very busy who will deal with it in.

(Received a "private revelation" if you will.)

Yep, me too.  :)
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2021, 09:02:05 AM »
Thank you. I know their views are highly specific to them and are not Catholic, but their apparent free reign makes it appear it is accepted.

Sometimes appearances are deceiving, and sometimes not. It is hard to tell.

 

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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2021, 01:16:21 PM »
You have many qualities that I appreciate in a fellow member here. I especially like how your Catholic faith is so foundational to your personality.  And I like how intense and passionate you are about important issues.  This might not always make you the easiest person to get along with, but I appreciate it. 
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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2021, 12:34:57 AM »
You have many qualities that I appreciate in a fellow member here. I especially like how your Catholic faith is so foundational to your personality.  And I like how intense and passionate you are about important issues.

Thank you.

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This might not always make you the easiest person to get along with, but I appreciate it.

I am easy to get along with as long as people aren't looking for mere emotional validation or a political ally when discussing important matters. That is a problem I see: people treating everything as a social club.

I see the Church, the faith itself, being treated like some human club, a philosophical school, a technical debate, and forgetting that faith is a virtue from God, not something we create. The crisis, if there is one, is in us, but only if we let it exist.

If one's faith relies on debates, theological study, and finding the right "fit" in a human group, then one has no faith.

In my life, I've seen great Catholics leave the Church entirely because they were looking to man instead of God. They sought the right answer to a debate, the right humans to associate with, and the right feelings they expected to have, and ultimately found nothing.

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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2021, 03:23:28 PM »
In terms of all my forum use, this forum is very strange. It's culture tolerates many things most other forums would instantly ban.

One would think a Catholic forum would hold a higher standard, but I've been on self-moderated groups that are larger have had better hospitality and decorum collectively than this forum, if only for the sake of professional courtesy.

I don't know how everybody tolerates it.

It is nicer on reddit: one just has to not bring up the topics that you know they all hate, and one can converse about the topics at hand without much trouble, even with strong personal opinions.
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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2021, 07:07:56 PM »
In terms of all my forum use, this forum is very strange. It's culture tolerates many things most other forums would instantly ban.

One would think a Catholic forum would hold a higher standard, but I've been on self-moderated groups that are larger have had better hospitality and decorum collectively than this forum, if only for the sake of professional courtesy.

I don't know how everybody tolerates it.

It is nicer on reddit: one just has to not bring up the topics that you know they all hate, and one can converse about the topics at hand without much trouble, even with strong personal opinions.

Huh? Reddit is super toxic, and usually people have absolutely no idea what the hell they are talking about.
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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2021, 07:10:29 PM »
It is nicer on reddit: one just has to not bring up the topics that you know they all hate, and one can converse about the topics at hand without much trouble, even with strong personal opinions.

Huh? Reddit is super toxic, and usually people have absolutely no idea what the hell they are talking about.

Yes, I know.
 

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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2021, 07:13:58 PM »
Well, if it is so terrible over here, and so hard to tolerate, simply leave. If it is causing you stress it is probably not best to stay around. Not being condescending, just trying to help. :)

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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2021, 07:22:00 PM »
Well, if it is so terrible over here, and so hard to tolerate, simply leave. If it is causing you stress it is probably not best to stay around. Not being condescending, just trying to help. :)

I said it was strange, not intolerable or stressful.

The forum is small (in terms of activity and active posters at any one time), so the interactions are often more personal, and a lot of them are pleasant.

Although, I wish all the nice people who send me PMs would be active, but apparently, a lot of them gave up on public activity after dealing with the same sort of issues.

(Note: if anyone reading this recently sent me a PM, this is not about you...I've received a surprising number of personal messages from people who didn't have any recent forum activity or who were otherwise very inactive on the forum in public ever since my first week here.)

So my overall view of the forum is that it is full of great people, the majority of whom don't bother to post in public because of these issues.

I mean, there hasn't been any problems in chat. I have only had good personal message exchanges. There is a lot of people willing to deal with the forum in public to make it useful sometimes (I bought books specifically based on recent book recommendations on it). And there are a lot of old faces (avatars? whatever) that I have had previous interactions with, almost all of it positive (apparently, all the people who were hostile to me from back then are all gone for some reason).

There are a lot of people who are no longer around too, but it is nice to go back and read the old posts from the times they were active.
 
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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2021, 09:22:59 AM »
I came to this forum for Catholic discussion and fellowship, and what I found was some nice people, but the forum was full of unusual and novel blasphemies, and the people were fine with being incredibly vulgar and rude.

I wish people focused on using the forum, instead of making commentary on others who try to use it for no real purpose (what errors do they see that inspires such attention?). It results in a discussion about a poster who then has to respond to the critics. It can end up being circular when they start responding to the response to the critics of the poster's forum activity.
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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2021, 06:56:09 AM »
I found out what happened to this forum.
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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2021, 11:08:20 PM »
Things I never expected to find contested on a Catholic forum by (apparently) Catholics:

  • Acceptance of approved titles of the Blessed Virgin Mary
  • Acceptance of other Catholics accepting approved private revelations (without being accused of idolatry)
  • Acceptance of approved devotions and works from a highly renown saint, Saint Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort
  • Acceptance and appreciation of the apparently basic Moral Theology as presented by Saint Thomas Aquinas, and confirmed through the ages by Popes, and being held in the highest regard in the Catholic Church

This is not to mention the constant pushback from people who just don't like how I post or assume things about me that simply don't matter and aren't true.

There is a heavy atmosphere of disorder and discord here, which seems to defy all previous forum experience. I am not any different, and I expected the normal things that happened, but it has never been like this. I used to post far more, far more frequently, and far more strongly about many topics on this very forum and others, for tens of thousands of posts, and the worst I got was the occasional dispute with a feminist or someone who had some other minor issue which never became a problem at all and is to be expected on any social forum.

But here, now, it is totally different. It is like an oppressed, infested, household.

There are many hidden who are not in the public, and I've talked to many in messages, but the public forum is a spiritual mess. It is not a social problem. It is a spiritual problem.
 
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Re: Always Catholic
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2021, 12:03:34 AM »
Things I never expected to find contested on a Catholic forum by (apparently) Catholics:

  • Acceptance of approved titles of the Blessed Virgin Mary
  • Acceptance of other Catholics accepting approved private revelations (without being accused of idolatry)
  • Acceptance of approved devotions and works from a highly renown saint, Saint Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort
  • Acceptance and appreciation of the apparently basic Moral Theology as presented by Saint Thomas Aquinas, and confirmed through the ages by Popes, and being held in the highest regard in the Catholic Church

This is not to mention the constant pushback from people who just don't like how I post or assume things about me that simply don't matter and aren't true.

There is a heavy atmosphere of disorder and discord here, which seems to defy all previous forum experience. I am not any different, and I expected the normal things that happened, but it has never been like this. I used to post far more, far more frequently, and far more strongly about many topics on this very forum and others, for tens of thousands of posts, and the worst I got was the occasional dispute with a feminist or someone who had some other minor issue which never became a problem at all and is to be expected on any social forum.

But here, now, it is totally different. It is like an oppressed, infested, household.

There are many hidden who are not in the public, and I've talked to many in messages, but the public forum is a spiritual mess. It is not a social problem. It is a spiritual problem.

I haven't posted for a while, and then not as much as some others do.  But the criticisms you are making of  "our"  forum (SD is the only one I have really posted on since FE and CA days, long past) ring sadly true. 

Since I've only read this thread lately maybe I can't fairly judge these things.   But I am afraid you may be right.

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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2021, 01:02:01 AM »
I would like to see the hidden members start posting again.
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Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2021, 01:16:50 AM »
SD just recently crossed 2000 members. Quite a large Catholic Community we have here now. Hope we can all get along nicely. :)
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