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Title: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 01:13:10 AM
Greetings all.

Thanks to the admin for the approval.

My name is Insanis because I am judged to be in this modern day, but: non insanio, sed veritatis et sobrietatis verba loquor.

I was originally going to say that I used to be active on Catholic forums and I was looking for what happened to all the old people (who are even older now) I sort of remember, but I just had the most disturbing experience in recent hours (coincidence my approval happened now). Another forum from back when I was active on forums turned out to harbour a dark secret I either forgot about or never knew about.

Everybody is entitled to a skeleton in the closet, but some people apparently have ossuaries in their front gardens. I strive to be a Catholic living faithfully and simply, so I hope there are no surprises lurking here.

And here is my introduction according to the sticky:

I used a web browser, Firefox, to visit this forum. I am not a member of any forum or a user of social media of any sort, until recently when I decided to try to revisit Catholic forums. I was not approved here until today, but I registered more or less at the same time as another forum. That other forum is the one I referenced above. My activity there, if maintained, will be modified to suit the environment (which is very weird I have found out).

I hope my activity here can be with a basic fundamental understanding of right and wrong, that men are men and women are women, and what is good is not defined by "feelings". The world calls me (us?) insane for believing that (hence, my username). I hope that is not the case here. I do not plan to choose an अवतार, because I am Catholic.

I live in the land of the US Federal Reserve, on the side with the good coast. You know the one I mean.

I am unmarried and living a simple lay life. I had considerations that my vocation might be different, but in the past decade and more, it has become very clear that this is the right and only choice. I'm old enough now that people at church will not be inclined to offer to set me up with a nice girl they know.

I do not believe in "personality" types, at least, not in the "take this quiz and find out an answer" type of personality. I tend to be technically inclined and enjoy clever puns and witticisms. I think the Three Stooges are funny. I sometimes choose to do difficult things just for the sake of doing it to exercise discipline.

I like non-fiction the most these days, with most attention to technical things, history, and philosophy. I used to enjoy a lot of fiction, but these days, I tend to only really read fiction that I've read before rather than seek out anything new.

My favourite TV show is Yes, Minister. I don't think I have a favourite movie, but I tend not to care to watch new movies.

I like sport, but don't follow any teams or events. Olympic Weightlifting is probably my favourite.

I am an amateur radio license holder and an active VE (I take part in testing people for licensing, which requires a team of at least three Volunteer Examiners). I have been happy to spend this "pandemic" being available to get people licensed in person, as it should be.

I do not have any pet peeves, but I sometimes feed wild peeves in my yard.

Fun fact: I forgot my old username from back when I was active on forums, but I found it by digging through the archives on that other forum. I do not want to be connected to that old activity, although, theologically, I haven't changed, I have changed in other ways. Circumstances are much stabler now and I am not as busy as I was back then.

Another fun fact: I don't have a smartphone, carry a cell phone, or have any "smart" devices at all. I wear a watch and carry a tiny notebook and a nice pen and have a card with important phone numbers on it in my wallet.

A third fun fact: I was raised Catholic and didn't know about the NO until I was a teenager (about 14). I heard the "English mass" mentioned a few times growing up, but since we never went to them, I didn't think about it.



Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: mikemac on May 15, 2021, 05:52:13 AM
Welcome.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: DigitalLogos on May 15, 2021, 09:27:30 AM

I was originally going to say that I used to be active on Catholic forums and I was looking for what happened to all the old people (who are even older now) I sort of remember, but I just had the most disturbing experience in recent hours (coincidence my approval happened now). Another forum from back when I was active on forums turned out to harbour a dark secret I either forgot about or never knew about.

Welcome to the forum.  :cheeseheadbeer:

Tell me, does it have anything at all to do with transgenderism? Just curious.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: red solo cup on May 15, 2021, 09:32:18 AM
 :toth:  You lift bro? What about pants on women? On or off? Placentas?
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 09:34:26 AM
Welcome to the forum.  :cheeseheadbeer:

Tell me, does it have anything at all to do with transgenderism? Just curious.
Thanks.

I don't believe in "ism". I believe in truth. Feelings don't redefine that.

But some people don't think this way, so yes, that is one of the major things that revealed itself. It wasn't that alone though, but what surrounded it.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 09:37:12 AM
You lift bro? What about pants on women? On or off? Placentas?

I used to lift, but now I do something else. I look like I lift though.

I'm not sure you want to phrase the second two questions that way. It is ambiguous in multiple ways.

I'm not a woman and don't have any authority over any particular woman, so the question isn't something I have to deal with. If asked for advice, I say trousers were utilitarian and could be used when needed for function, but that modern styles are sometimes worse than being naked.

I used to have a placenta, but I don't remember it. Apparently, we were quite inseparable when I was a baby.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: DigitalLogos on May 15, 2021, 09:45:56 AM
Welcome to the forum.  :cheeseheadbeer:

Tell me, does it have anything at all to do with transgenderism? Just curious.
Thanks.

I don't believe in "ism". I believe in truth. Feelings don't redefine that.

But some people don't think this way, so yes, that is one of the major things that revealed itself. It wasn't that alone though, but what surrounded it.

Interesting, I was just curious because another forum I recently left had a controversy surrounding that subject resurface and contributed to why I left, albeit, that wasn't the sole reason.

Thanks for sharing. God bless.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Melkor on May 15, 2021, 10:39:01 AM
Hello!
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
Hello!

Hail, "Morgoth". I am not so easily fooled.


Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Melkor on May 15, 2021, 12:16:02 PM
Lol, a fellow hardcore Tolkien fan I see. Casuals have no way of knowing that!


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Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 12:25:57 PM

Interesting, I was just curious because another forum I recently left had a controversy surrounding that subject resurface and contributed to why I left, albeit, that wasn't the sole reason.

Thanks for sharing. God bless.

I don't want to bring particular attention to it, as it seems like it is probably not as hidden as I thought. I guess I was just not diligent in looking deep past appearances. One doesn't normally expect that kind of thing. I found out in active posting and getting weird responses about basic definitions of Mortal and Venial sins, and someone was posting constantly about venial sins were to be avoided at all costs. It was out of context and my words were being misrepresented, and I was wondering whether I made some error in expressing myself, as it all seemed like basic catechism and moral theology stuff. They really fixated on the evil of venial sins, to the point where they would pretend that making a distinction was somehow advocating for willful venial sins in particular.

I looked at the history of some of the posters (besides the people posting, they got consistent "upvotes" or whatever it is called on the forum which showed who did it) and I found a group of people who had personal histories public on the forum that made discussing the intricacies of living a spiritually perfect life in this world moot. I was expecting people with a consistent theological outlook, or a pattern of devotion, or some history which showed this to be an issue that was in the recent post that they thought I was a part of it (maybe if someone were advocating for being dismissive of venial sins, then my posts might be seen as a part of that mentality).

But I found individuals who openly professed to live intrinsically disordered lives and hold the identity personally and publicly, before going into even more disorder to make themselves "feel" better (inner turmoil is sometimes a good thing to drive us towards good), and another who openly doubted basic revelations and truths, and I stopped going too deep, as it was clear that the forum was centered around something foreign. I still don't know why one was very defensive of co-habitation either, and I don't want to know.

I left a few posts about the topic and then went away, and then I couldn't sleep and I got up to check a source (in a book I had been reading, and I actually forgot what the question was), and saw I was approved here and I did my initial posts then.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 12:36:59 PM
Lol, a fellow hardcore Tolkien fan I see. Casuals have no way of knowing that!

I was actually wrote out that I had seen your name when checking the forum before registering and I was concerned about a corrupted Vala being present, but I figured you knew who you were and what you called yourself, and I just went with it.

If I remember correctly, Morgoth is mentioned at least once in the theatrical release of the films (Legolas tells Galadriel about what happened in Khazad-dum [sic]). So the casuals should have some familiarity if my memory of the film is correct.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Melkor on May 15, 2021, 12:40:04 PM
Yeah you are right I believe Gandalf says ďA Balrog of Morgoth, demon of the ancient world. This foe is beyond any of you.í This is the only Morgoth reference (I think) in the films. But casuals still donít know who Melkor is


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Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 01:09:25 PM
But casuals still donít know who Melkor is

Sneaky thing to do.

Had I know this would come up, I'd have made my name Mairon.

(But I think that name would be open to misinterpretation by "casuals" as you call them.)
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: red solo cup on May 15, 2021, 04:55:05 PM
Knew I'd heard this title somewhere. Waylon Jennings.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 15, 2021, 04:58:41 PM
Knew I'd heard this title somewhere. Waylon Jennings.

Yes. I had trouble coming up with a title and didn't want something like "New here" or "Hello" or something boring like that.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Michael Wilson on May 15, 2021, 09:53:36 PM
"The Three Stooges"; Yes! The only reason that they didn't receive many "OSCARS" has to be attributed to envy.
"The Lord of the Rings"; Yes! Read those when I was in High School; been searching for the same book reading "high" ever since.
as James03 put it so pithily: "receding horizon" syndrome.
Tranny/trady forum? Not here.
"God Save the South" & Welcome!
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 16, 2021, 05:43:04 AM
"The Three Stooges"; Yes! The only reason that they didn't receive many "OSCARS" has to be attributed to envy.

These days, I'd say getting the accolades of respectable fans is far more significant than getting recognition from the corrupt film industry. Although, back then, it would have had a veneer of respectability.

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"The Lord of the Rings"; Yes! Read those when I was in High School; been searching for the same book reading "high" ever since.
Read them again.

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Tranny/trady forum? Not here.
It isn't a singular issue, but the web around it.

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"God Save the South" & Welcome!

Thanks. I'm from the south, but I'm up north now.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: orate on May 21, 2021, 06:09:05 AM
Welcome back. Insanis!  If you are who I think you are, you will be a breath of fresh air, here.  Hope you are well!
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 21, 2021, 09:01:37 AM
Welcome back. Insanis!  If you are who I think you are, you will be a breath of fresh air, here.  Hope you are well!

Thanks. I think I remember you. If I am correct, you helped me once and had a relative (child?) also on the forum. I forget names.

I hope to be a breath of fresh air, at least, to a musty odour that revealed itself in the reaches of the forum.

I am doing well. I am still me, but my situation is a lot less stressful and far more stable. Overall, I am doing better than the last time I was on forums.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: The Curt Jester on May 21, 2021, 09:06:15 AM
I forgot to post in here earlier, but welcome.  It's good to have you around again.  Maybe I'll pop into chat sometime soon if I get a chance.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 21, 2021, 09:09:26 AM
I forgot to post in here earlier, but welcome.  It's good to have you around again.  Maybe I'll pop into chat sometime soon if I get a chance.

Thanks. I'm in chat now (if you or anybody reading this wants to join). It is very nice in there.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Bernadette on May 22, 2021, 10:41:47 AM
Good to see you again!
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 22, 2021, 11:10:10 AM
Good to see you again!

Thanks. It is great to see familiar names.

If you go into chat again, let me know so I can give you voice. I think you might have popped in once a while back.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Christina_S on May 22, 2021, 11:26:37 AM
You lift bro? What about pants on women? On or off? Placentas?

I used to lift, but now I do something else. I look like I lift though.

...

I used to have a placenta, but I don't remember it. Apparently, we were quite inseparable when I was a baby.
:rofl: This is the quality content I'm here for!

Welcome, Insanis!
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 22, 2021, 11:34:47 AM
:rofl: This is the quality content I'm here for!

Welcome, Insanis!

Thanks. I aim to amuse (in these sorts of situations). A few minutes ago, you had exactly 598 posts and 598 thanks, but you ruined it. It was on the what are you reading thread, but I saw it and it was cool.

The lifting phrase was true. I look like I lift, although I haven't actually lifted a barbell in quite some time. I maintain/build strength in other ways.

(Also, the double meaning of the placenta line is funny to me, but the other meaning is serious. My umbilical cord was too short.)
Title: Going Insane
Post by: Insanis on May 22, 2021, 06:09:14 PM
I think I am going to leave this forum while the problems remain.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Elizabeth.2 on May 22, 2021, 06:18:47 PM
"The Three Stooges"; Yes! The only reason that they didn't receive many "OSCARS" has to be attributed to envy.

bonk
Title: Re: Going Insane
Post by: mikemac on May 22, 2021, 10:08:06 PM
I think I am going to leave this forum while the problems remain.

It is beginning to affect my perception. I cannot sustain this and nothing is being done about it, despite so many reports and messages. I dealt with CP spam in the IRC chat, but I never wanted to be op or owner and offered to hand it over (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=1037.msg531474#msg531474). It is more responsibility than I wanted. I have a limit to what I can accept and I do not want to have to constantly resist (https://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=25529.msg532532#msg532532). It is too much here.

If the chat room is constantly being spammed with child porn if it's left by itself then maybe a bunch of us should send KK a PM to have it deleted.  Hardly anyone uses it anyways.

Believe me Insanis this is the best I've seen it in five years, since Gerard started posting that crap.  Other times I'd complain about it and get jumped on by his disciples.  Not this time around.  Between yourself and a few other new members of the forum, plus some regulars we are just not putting up with it anymore.  Some long time members that never used to say anything about it have joined in this time too.  Gerard and Philip have got to be starting to realize that we just don't want the crap around here anymore.
Title: Sanity Restored
Post by: Insanis on May 23, 2021, 05:11:27 AM
if it's left by itself then maybe a bunch of us should send KK a PM to have it deleted.  Hardly anyone uses it anyways.

I think the spam was a result of someone monitoring the forum and targeting it.

I use it and I dealt with it, so it didn't actually have spam in it, except for a few seconds before I stopped it. But I could see the attempts (as op).

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Believe me Insanis this is the best I've seen it in five years, since Gerard started posting that crap.  Other times I'd complain about it and get jumped on by his disciples.  Not this time around.  Between yourself and a few other new members of the forum, plus some regulars we are just not putting up with it anymore.  Some long time members that never used to say anything about it have joined in this time too. 

Thank you. I know their views are highly specific to them and are not Catholic, but their apparent free reign makes it appear it is accepted.

But, it turns out it was just a moderator who was very busy who will deal with it in.

(Received a "private revelation" if you will.)
Title: Re: Sanity Restored
Post by: mikemac on May 23, 2021, 12:43:12 PM

Thank you. I know their views are highly specific to them and are not Catholic, but their apparent free reign makes it appear it is accepted.

But, it turns out it was just a moderator who was very busy who will deal with it in.

(Received a "private revelation" if you will.)

Yep, me too.  :)
Title: Catholic Forever
Post by: Insanis on May 26, 2021, 09:02:05 AM
Thank you. I know their views are highly specific to them and are not Catholic, but their apparent free reign makes it appear it is accepted.

Sometimes appearances are deceiving, and sometimes not. It is hard to tell.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Jayne on May 26, 2021, 01:16:21 PM
You have many qualities that I appreciate in a fellow member here. I especially like how your Catholic faith is so foundational to your personality.  And I like how intense and passionate you are about important issues.  This might not always make you the easiest person to get along with, but I appreciate it. 
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on May 27, 2021, 12:34:57 AM
You have many qualities that I appreciate in a fellow member here. I especially like how your Catholic faith is so foundational to your personality.  And I like how intense and passionate you are about important issues.

Thank you.

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This might not always make you the easiest person to get along with, but I appreciate it.

I am easy to get along with as long as people aren't looking for mere emotional validation or a political ally when discussing important matters. That is a problem I see: people treating everything as a social club.

I see the Church, the faith itself, being treated like some human club, a philosophical school, a technical debate, and forgetting that faith is a virtue from God, not something we create. The crisis, if there is one, is in us, but only if we let it exist.

If one's faith relies on debates, theological study, and finding the right "fit" in a human group, then one has no faith.

In my life, I've seen great Catholics leave the Church entirely because they were looking to man instead of God. They sought the right answer to a debate, the right humans to associate with, and the right feelings they expected to have, and ultimately found nothing.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on June 02, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
In terms of all my forum use, this forum is very strange. It's culture tolerates many things most other forums would instantly ban.

One would think a Catholic forum would hold a higher standard, but I've been on self-moderated groups that are larger have had better hospitality and decorum collectively than this forum, if only for the sake of professional courtesy.

I don't know how everybody tolerates it.

It is nicer on reddit: one just has to not bring up the topics that you know they all hate, and one can converse about the topics at hand without much trouble, even with strong personal opinions.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Melkor on June 02, 2021, 07:07:56 PM
In terms of all my forum use, this forum is very strange. It's culture tolerates many things most other forums would instantly ban.

One would think a Catholic forum would hold a higher standard, but I've been on self-moderated groups that are larger have had better hospitality and decorum collectively than this forum, if only for the sake of professional courtesy.

I don't know how everybody tolerates it.

It is nicer on reddit: one just has to not bring up the topics that you know they all hate, and one can converse about the topics at hand without much trouble, even with strong personal opinions.

Huh? Reddit is super toxic, and usually people have absolutely no idea what the hell they are talking about.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on June 02, 2021, 07:10:29 PM
It is nicer on reddit: one just has to not bring up the topics that you know they all hate, and one can converse about the topics at hand without much trouble, even with strong personal opinions.

Huh? Reddit is super toxic, and usually people have absolutely no idea what the hell they are talking about.

Yes, I know.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Melkor on June 02, 2021, 07:13:58 PM
Well, if it is so terrible over here, and so hard to tolerate, simply leave. If it is causing you stress it is probably not best to stay around. Not being condescending, just trying to help. :)

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on June 02, 2021, 07:22:00 PM
Well, if it is so terrible over here, and so hard to tolerate, simply leave. If it is causing you stress it is probably not best to stay around. Not being condescending, just trying to help. :)

I said it was strange, not intolerable or stressful.

The forum is small (in terms of activity and active posters at any one time), so the interactions are often more personal, and a lot of them are pleasant.

Although, I wish all the nice people who send me PMs would be active, but apparently, a lot of them gave up on public activity after dealing with the same sort of issues.

(Note: if anyone reading this recently sent me a PM, this is not about you...I've received a surprising number of personal messages from people who didn't have any recent forum activity or who were otherwise very inactive on the forum in public ever since my first week here.)

So my overall view of the forum is that it is full of great people, the majority of whom don't bother to post in public because of these issues.

I mean, there hasn't been any problems in chat. I have only had good personal message exchanges. There is a lot of people willing to deal with the forum in public to make it useful sometimes (I bought books specifically based on recent book recommendations on it). And there are a lot of old faces (avatars? whatever) that I have had previous interactions with, almost all of it positive (apparently, all the people who were hostile to me from back then are all gone for some reason).

There are a lot of people who are no longer around too, but it is nice to go back and read the old posts from the times they were active.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on June 05, 2021, 09:22:59 AM
I came to this forum for Catholic discussion and fellowship, and what I found was some nice people, but the forum was full of unusual and novel blasphemies, and the people were fine with being incredibly vulgar and rude.

I wish people focused on using the forum, instead of making commentary on others who try to use it for no real purpose (what errors do they see that inspires such attention?). It results in a discussion about a poster who then has to respond to the critics. It can end up being circular when they start responding to the response to the critics of the poster's forum activity.
Title: Always Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 06, 2021, 06:56:09 AM
I found out what happened to this forum.
Title: Always Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 07, 2021, 11:08:20 PM
Things I never expected to find contested on a Catholic forum by (apparently) Catholics:


This is not to mention the constant pushback from people who just don't like how I post or assume things about me that simply don't matter and aren't true.

There is a heavy atmosphere of disorder and discord here, which seems to defy all previous forum experience. I am not any different, and I expected the normal things that happened, but it has never been like this. I used to post far more, far more frequently, and far more strongly about many topics on this very forum and others, for tens of thousands of posts, and the worst I got was the occasional dispute with a feminist or someone who had some other minor issue which never became a problem at all and is to be expected on any social forum.

But here, now, it is totally different. It is like an oppressed, infested, household.

There are many hidden who are not in the public, and I've talked to many in messages, but the public forum is a spiritual mess. It is not a social problem. It is a spiritual problem.
Title: Re: Always Catholic
Post by: Non Nobis on June 08, 2021, 12:03:34 AM
Things I never expected to find contested on a Catholic forum by (apparently) Catholics:

  • Acceptance of approved titles of the Blessed Virgin Mary
  • Acceptance of other Catholics accepting approved private revelations (without being accused of idolatry)
  • Acceptance of approved devotions and works from a highly renown saint, Saint Louis-Marie Grignion de Montfort
  • Acceptance and appreciation of the apparently basic Moral Theology as presented by Saint Thomas Aquinas, and confirmed through the ages by Popes, and being held in the highest regard in the Catholic Church

This is not to mention the constant pushback from people who just don't like how I post or assume things about me that simply don't matter and aren't true.

There is a heavy atmosphere of disorder and discord here, which seems to defy all previous forum experience. I am not any different, and I expected the normal things that happened, but it has never been like this. I used to post far more, far more frequently, and far more strongly about many topics on this very forum and others, for tens of thousands of posts, and the worst I got was the occasional dispute with a feminist or someone who had some other minor issue which never became a problem at all and is to be expected on any social forum.

But here, now, it is totally different. It is like an oppressed, infested, household.

There are many hidden who are not in the public, and I've talked to many in messages, but the public forum is a spiritual mess. It is not a social problem. It is a spiritual problem.

I haven't posted for a while, and then not as much as some others do.  But the criticisms you are making of  "our"  forum (SD is the only one I have really posted on since FE and CA days, long past) ring sadly true. 

Since I've only read this thread lately maybe I can't fairly judge these things.   But I am afraid you may be right.

 :pray2:

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: mikemac on June 08, 2021, 01:02:01 AM
I would like to see the hidden members start posting again.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Xavier on June 08, 2021, 01:16:50 AM
SD just recently crossed 2000 members. Quite a large Catholic Community we have here now. Hope we can all get along nicely. :)
Title: Re: Always Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 08, 2021, 09:01:09 AM
I haven't posted for a while, and then not as much as some others do.  But the criticisms you are making of  "our"  forum (SD is the only one I have really posted on since FE and CA days, long past) ring sadly true. 

Since I've only read this thread lately maybe I can't fairly judge these things.   But I am afraid you may be right.

I'm the newest active account still I think (a new account did post a singular Youtube video link, but that is it). But these things I witnessed are shocking to me, and not like any Catholic forum experience I have ever had. I was on this forum in its beginning and while I understand that people come and go, especially after 8 years, there seems to be a far more grave issue rather than just a change in demographics and interests.

When I joined, I did a review of the forum, found the activity low, but still active, and I didn't find any errors, and I decided I just wanted Catholic discussions and fellowship, and I wouldn't get involved in Sede* or Vatican II debates. I have views on those things, but I don't want to debate or defend them, so I ignore them for the most part.

I thought I'd be in the clear of any controversial views.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on June 09, 2021, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: Matthew 10:16
Behold I send you as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 09, 2021, 03:57:11 PM
1024 is a good round number and a good place to wait.

I will wait for responses and see how it goes on way or another.

If you are interested in rosaries, send me a message.

I've always been Catholic and with the grace of God, I always will be.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 15, 2021, 04:05:16 PM
The last week of my forum activity was far more fruitful and interesting and I've resumed posting with a new view on how to use the public forum.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 19, 2021, 02:17:18 PM

Quote from: Corinthians 5
Know you not that a little leaven corrupteth the whole lump? Purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new paste, as you are unleavened. For Christ our pasch is sacrificed. Therefore let us feast, not with the old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. I wrote to you in an epistle, not to keep company with fornicators. I mean not with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or the extortioners, or the servers of idols; otherwise you must needs go out of this world.

But now I have written to you, not to keep company, if any man that is named a brother, be a fornicator, or covetous, or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner: with such a one, not so much as to eat.  For what have I to do to judge them that are without? Do not you judge them that are within? For them that are without, God will judge. Put away the evil one from among yourselves.

Title: Re: I've always been Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 20, 2021, 11:24:40 PM
I don't think people realize that accusing me of lying is a grave accusation and can have a real impact if believed by others on this forum, where my words are all I have to express myself.

An accusation of sin concerning the moderation of the lower appetites is lesser than one of a sin against Justice.

That is what a lie is.

I'd rather be falsely accused of gluttony, lust, curiosity, or drunkenness spuriously than to be falsely accused of lying.

I don't think people understand this. The integrity of the body is one thing to defend, but this is a matter of the soul.
Title: Always Faithful
Post by: Insanis on June 21, 2021, 09:22:22 PM
I will not be publicly posting for a bit, as I do some reading and work on some projects I've been putting off.

I'll be active in chat and in private messages if anybody wants to contact me before I again resume posting on the public forum. Maybe this will give all those people time to reflect on their activities and see what the forum is really like in the meantime.

Quote from: Ecclesiasticus 27:31
Mockery and reproach are of the proud, and vengeance as a lion shall lie in wait for him.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: clau clau on June 22, 2021, 08:58:24 AM
I expect you will be back.  It's full-moon on 24th June.  [/s]

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hasta la vista

Title: Always Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 22, 2021, 11:17:34 PM
It has been a day, and I have concluded that my posts here were not suitable for this forum. They were the sort of posts fitting for a Catholic forum as I have used in the past, but this forum has a very, very different dynamic from any active Catholic forum or indeed, any forum I have ever used. I am not saying this forum is fails to meet any expectations of a Catholic forum, but that it fails to meet any reasonable expectations of a forum.

I have compared this forum in the past to the ruins of a great civilization where the current natives are unable or unwilling to maintain the structures they inhabit, but they live among them in the shadow of the past.

I was treating it as the forum as a slower version of what it once was, and found some very unusual things. What this forum tolerates and what this forum finds intolerable are quite unexpected.

I have found two other uses for this forum which will be good I think, and I am going to try that for now, but I am no longer going to post threads and discussions as I have been doing.
Title: Re: Always Catholic
Post by: Jayne on June 23, 2021, 11:34:10 AM
I have found two other uses for this forum which will be good I think, and I am going to try that for now, but I am no longer going to post threads and discussions as I have been doing.

I am pleased that you have not left completely.
Title: Re: Always Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 25, 2021, 05:54:45 PM
I have found two other uses for this forum which will be good I think, and I am going to try that for now, but I am no longer going to post threads and discussions as I have been doing.

I am pleased that you have not left completely.

The forum is extremely slow and it is giving me more time than I thought to read while using the forum. I've also been working on some projects, one of which is in the final stage of the first stage.

I have a feeling any thread I see now in most subforums will be prominently displayed for quite some time, even if nobody posts on them, so I'm bumping this to make the front page look cleaner.

Title: Re: Always Catholic
Post by: Melkor on June 25, 2021, 07:09:17 PM
It has been a day, and I have concluded that my posts here were not suitable for this forum. They were the sort of posts fitting for a Catholic forum as I have used in the past, but this forum has a very, very different dynamic from any active Catholic forum or indeed, any forum I have ever used. I am not saying this forum is fails to meet any expectations of a Catholic forum, but that it fails to meet any reasonable expectations of a forum.

I have compared this forum in the past to the ruins of a great civilization where the current natives are unable or unwilling to maintain the structures they inhabit, but they live among them in the shadow of the past.

I was treating it as the forum as a slower version of what it once was, and found some very unusual things. What this forum tolerates and what this forum finds intolerable are quite unexpected.

I have found two other uses for this forum which will be good I think, and I am going to try that for now, but I am no longer going to post threads and discussions as I have been doing.

Selling Rosaries and finding AoE players, I hope :D ;D
Title: Re: Always Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 25, 2021, 07:38:06 PM
Selling Rosaries and finding AoE players, I hope :D ;D

I don't exactly sell rosaries: I lose money on them overall. I did finish all the ones I could make now, and I'm waiting for the crucifixes to come in to finish a few.

But, it was the creation of a new website, cleaning up administrative tasks (papers, filing, medical bills and records, etc), and doing some sorting and organization. The new website is about to go live. Everything is done except to wait for the hosting to be ready to go. I made the first version of the website already and it is uploaded, but the host isn't live yet. I developed the website first locally, and then bought the domain, and then finally, secured hosting. So I am waiting for the host to kick in. It should be any time now.

Title: Always Catholic
Post by: Insanis on June 25, 2021, 09:18:05 PM
The site is live and apparently working. I had security certificate / DNS issues at first, but such are things when things are fresh. Things take awhile to propagate.

It is on my profile. Feedback on the technical aspect is appreciated.

Corrections of errors or usability issues is also appreciated, but the site isn't finished yet and my vision for it is not completely finalized. I just want to get the technical stuff working and have something live.
Title: Re: Always Catholic
Post by: The Curt Jester on June 25, 2021, 09:58:53 PM
I did start the AoE training after installing it. Tomorrow, I should find myself a microphone, and continue the training (or, if it is possible to things co-op or something to learn. maybe I could do that).

Besides the training section, probably the best method would be to play against an easier AI so you have something resembling an opponent, but still having to practice the methods taught in the training missions.
Title: Re: I've always been Catholic, but it has kept me from going insane
Post by: Insanis on June 28, 2021, 09:20:06 PM
I have to get working on that.

I've been spending too much time reading and doing things instead of taking care of important stuff like that.

Title: I've always been Catholic
Post by: Insanis on July 06, 2021, 06:20:23 PM
I've always been Catholic, but in my life I've seen many people with the same sort of upbringing as me leave the Church, people convert to the faith, and then leave, and people just stop practicing without any clear reason.

I look on this forum, and I see current non-Catholics clearly professing the faith in the beginning of their activities here.

I see the things I wrote about the important of orthodoxy and being careful with how one uses feelings in making judgements because they are often misleading.

It is clear that there is a creeping normality (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creeping_normality) here. Things that would not have been tolerated and somehow welcome, and things that should be clear, are muddled.

People who remained active here are few, and there is a selection bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias) which has resulted in a very strange forum dynamic by any standard.

The only things users of a forum can do is post, and that is what I have been doing, but not as much as I used to, but it is clear there are issues here that I have never seen before.

I don't know the way to deal with it and still be active on this forum. I suppose that explains why so many are not active.